Player Discussion Marner

[Doublerum1975]

How long before Matthews requests to play with Domi again?

So what you’re saying Matthew’s needs someone to carry him

 

[Gary Nylund]

He looked good. His quickness vs last year is much better. I thought he was auditioning to play with JT last season.

That drop pass was a stinker. Outside that there is still no world I want to pay him 11.5m like Nylander. Not even Nylander deserves Nylander money, but if the team is going to keep it going I hope The worst case is MM WN @ 11.5m each.

I'm afraid Marner will insist on getting more than Nylander but maybe they can sell him 11.5M but a 4 year term like Matthews. ATM that would seem better for the team than 11.5x8 (if he chokes again say 3 out of the next 4 playoffs, maybe it'll become clear to everyone that it's time to move on) and it might look that way for both sides? Or maybe Berube figures out how to get the most out of him in the playoffs and he's a Leaf for life, the odds of that happening don't seem too good but that would be obviously be the best case scenario for everyone.

Whatever they do, I hope they realize that we have massive leverage because of endorsements, and the fact that Marner doesn't want to leave. Use the leverage and stop bending over for the star players the way Dubas did. JMHO.

 

[ACC1224]

Hard to believe that his two way game looks even better this year.
Those tough PK minutes may catch up to him at some point.

 

[Confucius]

I'm afraid Marner will insist on getting more than Nylander but maybe they can sell him 11.5M but a 4 year term like Matthews. ATM that would seem better for the team than 11.5x8 (if he chokes again say 3 out of the next 4 playoffs, maybe it'll become clear to everyone that it's time to move on) and it might look that way for both sides? Or maybe Berube figures out how to get the most out of him in the playoffs and he's a Leaf for life, the odds of that happening don't seem too good but that would be obviously be the best case scenario for everyone.

Whatever they do, I hope they realize that we have massive leverage because of endorsements, and the fact that Marner doesn't want to leave. Use the leverage and stop bending over for the star players the way Dubas did. JMHO.[/ ]

Obviously I like Mitch but I’m not giving more than 11, unless he gets us to final.

 

[ACC1224]

Obviously I like Mitch but I’m not giving more than 11, unless he gets us to final.

The Nylander overpay is going to make that tricky.

 

[Confucius]

The Nylander overpay is going to make that tricky.

Back to back 40 goal seasons and a 90 + point guy as well

 

[ACC1224]

Back to back 40 goal seasons and a 90 + point guy as well

Yep he can score when he wants to.

 

[Evilhomer]

The Nylander overpay is going to make that tricky.

I don't think there is any scenario where Marner gets less than Nylander. It will start with a $12.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I don't think there is any scenario where Marner gets less than Nylander. It will start with a $12.

He might bite on 11.5x4. The selling point would that the deal is better than Nylander's cause he can cash in again, tell him that maybe 4 years down the line he gets 15 million a year.

 

[Raging Bull]

Beauty effort on the goal last night. His first step seems more explosive this year, hopefully a sign of good things to come.

 

[Evilhomer]

He might bite on 11.5x4. The selling point would that the deal is better than Nylander's cause he can cash in again, tell him that maybe 4 years down the line he gets 15 million a year.

Possible. Or maybe he goes for $11.6 or $11.9 on a longer deal. Either way, it will be a big number.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Beauty effort on the goal last night. His first step seems more explosive this year, hopefully a sign of good things to come.

That's the hope. But then, regular season Marner has always been money in the bank, the first few games of the playoffs as well. It's game 87 when his game usually falls off the proverbial cliff so we won't know shit until then, that's just the reality.

 

[Confucius]

He might bite on 11.5x4. The selling point would that the deal is better than Nylander's cause he can cash in again, tell him that maybe 4 years down the line he gets 15 million a year.

Plus we can take advantage as you say, this is home will he leave for a 10% raise? I know you would… lol! You started it all.

 

[Gallagbi]

Beauty effort on the goal last night. His first step seems more explosive this year, hopefully a sign of good things to come.

Its funny, ive found the opposite with his skating. It looks really laboured to me and he's lacking an extra gear. Even last night he beats a D who is standing still and Letang cuts him off from across the ice after pivoting. Beauty shot and effort though by Mitch.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Plus we can take advantage as you say, this is home will he leave for a 10% raise? I know you would… lol! You started it all.

What did I start? Are you high?

 

[Confucius]

What did I start? Are you high?

Were you NOT the 1st NHL player to go UFA? Oops 1st to go RFA., sorry for the confusion. lol!

 

[Nineteen67]

He might bite on 11.5x4. The selling point would that the deal is better than Nylander's cause he can cash in again, tell him that maybe 4 years down the line he gets 15 million a year.

I think he signs 4 x 12. 8 yrs would be too high of AAV.

 

[IPS]

Was there supposed to be some kind of concern or something that Marner wasn't going to be able to produce in the regular season in his contract year?

 

[GoonieFace]

Its funny, ive found the opposite with his skating. It looks really laboured to me and he's lacking an extra gear. Even last night he beats a D who is standing still and Letang cuts him off from across the ice after pivoting. Beauty shot and effort though by Mitch.

I actually feel physical pain watching him skate. That was a nice shot though.

 

[Confucius]

Its funny, ive found the opposite with his skating. It looks really laboured to me and he's lacking an extra gear. Even last night he beats a D who is standing still and Letang cuts him off from across the ice after pivoting. Beauty shot and effort though by Mitch.

Looked to me the dman was a couple of strides ahead of him and was moving but yeah Mitch blew by him like Petterson was a pylon.

 

[Gallagbi]

Looked to me the dman was a couple of strides ahead of him and was moving but yeah Mitch blew by him like Petterson was a pylon.

He is a pylon in that situation. The D is reading forward/pressure and is stopped at the line the play and Marner jumps it forcing him to retreat from a standstill while Mitch has speed already. Looks like he thought the wing would grab it and he's flat footed as a result. Its a great read by Marner and he exploits the position he's put the D in.

 

[rumman]

Conspiracy theories seem to be batting a high average right now.

Three week ahead of the main stream thinking……….

Doesn't seem that long ago where people wanted un-poked people literally exiled from society.

You can’t get un-poked………

 

[rumman]

High praise from Berube as well.

Chief does pile on the praise for Marner, so coach seems pleased with his game thus far……..

I think ultimately a Marner deal looks like this:

8 yrs @ 9m/year

A promise to play a young Hillary Swank in the prequel to Million Dollar Baby

Sadly that’s the number I feel he’s worth, if he ever took it Styles would immediately become the new overpaid whipping boy. Book it……..

The Nylander overpay is going to make that tricky.

Two wrongs don’t make a right………

 

[Maple Leaf]

Was there supposed to be some kind of concern or something that Marner wasn't going to be able to produce in the regular season in his contract year?

Marner is a very good regular season player
Marner gets shutdown in the playoffs and is weak on the wall

 

[ACC1224]

Mitch Marner moves into seventh Leafs' all-time scoring list | TSN

Mitch Marner's love for the Maple Leafs is no secret. A turbulent, rumour-filled off-season left the star winger's future with the team he grew up supporting in doubt.

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