That's just a silly strawman you're trying to cash in on. Try harder.
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That's just a silly strawman you're trying to cash in on. Try harder.
…if it isn’t true, then take the bet.
Why would I be able to show that many quotes of me saying it if I never said it? It makes no sense, and it clearly wasn’t just some passing opinion. I've been pointing this out consistently for a reason. So, put your money where your mouth is.
Bet? Dont back off your comments now. Makes you look less credible.
What has that go do with anything? I've never said or implied that you didn't say anything about Marner going to the net so the premise of what you're arguing or wanting makes no sense. My whole point is that you have a penchant for diminishing anything Marner does, hence the faux quotes in that post.
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It can be even better.
Matthews is scoring at a 68 points per 82 game pace.
I’d throw Domi with Matthews who I think is a much better fit to play with Matthews.
Also Domi will have an increase in points playing with Matthews as well. I think putting them together would get them both going and their chemistry last year was off the charts.
Domi-Matthews-Nylander
Patches-Tavares-Marner
Is that why Knies has a whopping 1 assist on the season? Wtf are you talking about.
Matthews, can't score but has three rockets since 2021, again wtf are you talking about.
Marner, leading scorer on our team, definitely the problem so far.
It's one of the best lines in the league, despite Matthews converting at half of his normal rate. That and the PP is what's most affecting production levels. The Matthews-Domi chemistry has been exaggerated. The line went on a hot streak for a few weeks while abandoning defense against easier matchups. Matthews and Nylander don't mesh very well together either. There may come a time when a mix-up makes sense, but with the top-six playing well, I don't see a reason to break up one of the best duos in hockey.
Dude flat out looks slow out there at this point.
He's always looked weak, but I can't believe the regression in speed.
He's always looked weak, but I can't believe the regression in speed.
according to Natural Stat Trick:
Matthews Marner gf% together: 60%
Marner without Matthews: gf%47%,
Matthews without Marner: gf% 55%.
Without Matthews...Marner lines get scored on more than his line scores.
Worth 12 million when he needs a 13 million dollar linemate to keep his gf% above 50%?
Whats our record with Matthews out of the lineup vs Marner out if the lineup?
This.... he can only get so far with the puck before opponents are all over him. Hes Tavares and Patches fast, without the size and strength. Everyone is cracking jokes about Tavares and Patches speed but ignoring that Marner is tiny and as slow as they are.
Marner went 100 games without a pp goal.
Marner went 18 games without a Postseason goal
This is the third year in a row that Matthews and Marner havent produced together to start the year. Each year Matthews started producing ALOT once they split.
Matthews has a shelf full of NHL awards, Marner has none.
Marner is constantly targetted for his #$%& playoffs. And Matthews isnt...including by former NHL players like Paul Bissonette and Kelly Hrudey, die hard gans like Dangle and fan/former player Rosehill..and Hayes from TSN overdrive.
According to NHL edge Marner is in the bottom 50% in skating speed, and shot speed.
Marner has been productive in the playoffs...however, last year without Matthews, he produced just 1 goal 3 points in 7 games. While Matthews despite being sick looked more dominant than he ever has with Marner.
Numerous articled by journalists show Marners advanced stats indicate hes overrated. One saying he had a negative impact on goal generation and was only slightly above average NHL players in terms of impact.
2 Consecutive years the manority (60+%) voted to trade him on this board.
List goes on forever.
This post is the literal definition of verbal diarrhea. There's so much crap here I don't even know where to start. What was my initial post about? Did you answer it at all? No, why not?
You cited Jay Rosehill, Paul Bisonette, Hrudey, Dangle and Kevin Hayes lmao, what a list of hockey intelligence you went with. lmao, what a mess.
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I wouldn’t say many, it’s pretty rare
He started going to the front of the net in 2020-2021 and then reverted to perimeter play and up at the point
Either way, good play and hope he actually continues it instead of going back to staying away from the front of the net
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Must be a contractual thing or something. Most coaches would mix it up by now if possible.
He should play with JT and Patches and see.
He loses his shit under duress. We only get a glimpse and the way he responds suggests is he just expects things to come easy to him and can't handle when they don't.
It's a pattern with him.. blowout games he is all over the score sheet. High stakes pressure games he is nowhere to be seen. The shambles coment he made is pretty telling.
Has he been in a fight? I imagine it would be like Semin because he is Canadian Semin in a way.
In the third today he couldnt do anything without turning it over.
Fast, physical, high pressure games (playoff atmosphere hint) and he collapses like a cheap tent. Hes just too slow and small.
Watch Marner post game, his arrogance is too much. Get rid of this guy.
Its not just 1 post game, watch em all.
Its not just 1 post game, watch em all.
There's also Jeff O'Neill, Mark Masters, Luke Fox, Adam Berkshire, Tyler Horsfall, and Shayna Goldman, who have either criticized Marner directly or posted advanced stats and detailed breakdowns showing he isn't good enough. Coaches like Trotz and Boudreau have pointed out that the Leafs play "too cute" for playoff success buut sure, they probably aren't referring to Marner, because he isnt the softest and he certainly isnt trying all the "cute" risky plays.
But who’s counting, right?
Jeremy Roenick was interviewed a few days ago and mentioned the Leafs have some great players, naming Tavares, Matthews, and Nylander... but interestingly, he forgot to name Marner. Let me guess.. Marner coincidentally slipped his mind?
Listen at 9:00 min mark (doesnt list Marner)
But all just a conspiracy against mini Gretzky.
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What do you think he would be putting up away from Matthews right now? Personally I am thinking if he is swapped with Nylander he is about 75-85 pt guy at best.
He isn't doing anything for Matthews right now mind you. Guy has to do all the heavy lifting while Mitch forces it. AM probably knows he is just going for points to win a contract.
Being in the building on Thursday night, you couldn’t be more wrong. If you actually watch the Matthews line, Marner actually takes on the center responsibilities in the defensive zone, Matthews ends up leaking high. I think that’s obviously by design, but Matthews is not doing the heavy lifting. Matthews is really struggling if we are being honest and it’s not because of his linemates. Very evident just watching the game in the building.
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