Marner Predictions - What Happens Now

[conFABulator]

If you’re organized you pick two alternate captains and go with it.

Yep. Rielly and Tavares. After that I would be looking at Tanev.

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Rielly has worn an "A" full time since the 2016-17 season.

Matthews and Marner didn't start rotating a "A" until 2019-20 season.

Exactly, we are not taking letter time away from Reilly or Tavares.

 

[bax]

Rotate with who? Which of Tavares or Reilly is wearing less of a letter than last year?

I'd guess Tavares wears a letter all year long and Rielly/Marner rotate home and road

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Take the As and C off all of them and stitch on a T for turds.

 

[Gilmour1996]

Take the As and C off all of them and stitch on a T for turds.

Methinks T stands for toilet paper (Charmin Ultra Soft)

 

[conFABulator]

I'd guess Tavares wears a letter all year long and Rielly/Marner rotate home and road

That would be the play but it sort of feels like a slap in the face to Reilly just to not upset Marner. I am done with those sorts of decisions.

 

[Maple Leaf]

He’s a 100 point Selke level player. If you don’t want to re-sign him, why not get a good package back?

Agreed that is exactly what I want but someone needs to offer that

 

[Mapleafan]

Agreed that is exactly what I want but someone needs to offer that

If it was going to happen, it probably would have by now. At this point, just re-sign him, he’s still a big part of the team.

 

[Stephen]

That would be the play but it sort of feels like a slap in the face to Reilly just to not upset Marner. I am done with those sorts of decisions.

Leafs should just give everybody an A and call it a day.

 

[Mapleafan]

Can someone who wants Marner traded provide the argument for why? Thanks.

 

[LeafEgo]

Just let Marner share the C with Matty, it's not worth the trouble.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Is Treliving just going to wait on signing Marner like he did with Willy and have to pay 1+ M more to sign him? Learn, Brad.

I thought Willy signed for what he originally asked for, not more.

Hopefully he waits on Mitch and doesn't sign him at all, except as part of a sign-and-trade.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Can someone who wants Marner traded provide the argument for why? Thanks.

There are many many many posts already providing the arguments both for and against.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

I think he will treat us to at least one more of these loserlights before sailing off into the sunset as a UFA.

Shocking that a player making 11 million, with an A, in a playoff game (after 7 years of let downs), down 1-0 in the series...literally gives up on a puck this close to him (see red line) and the bruins easily clear. Speaks volumes about where his heart is and how much "he cares" about winning.

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[Mapleafan]

There are many many many posts already providing the arguments both for and against.

I haven’t been reading past threads here much. I just don’t see why we must trade him. It’s like everyone overreacted to his poor playoff performance.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Makes no difference to me. I cheer for the front of the sweater, not the back.

 

[Mapleafan]

I thought Willy signed for what he originally asked for, not more.

I don’t know if he would have gotten 11.5 if he was signed sooner.

 

[Racer88]

Leafs should just give everybody an A and call it a day.

That might hurt their feeling just give them all C’s

Can someone who wants Marner traded provide the argument for why? Thanks.

Because his next contract will cripple the team as bad as his current one

 

[Antropovsky]

Can someone who wants Marner traded provide the argument for why? Thanks.

This attached photo is a playoff game...Leafs down in series 1-0. This (red line) was a puck Marner decided he rather give possession to the Bruins instead of what he feared would happen if he touched the puck. Look at how close he is and look how far the Bruins are. You arent winning #$%# with a player making 11 million (12% of the cap)with this mindset. More importantly playing 20 mins a night. This isnt basketball, its a physical sport, the league likes physical hockey in the playoffs and refs police as they are told... as Nylander said, this isnt junior bro. if you fear physical areas your team will suffer.

If one image could summarize why a player sucks in the playoffs, this would be it and its beyond ridiculous:

 

[Mapleafan]

Because his next contract will cripple the team as bad as his current one.

He’s still an excellent player, you can’t just let him walk.

 

[Mapleafan]

This is a playoff game...Leafs down in series 1-0. This (red line) was a puck Marner decided he rather give possession to the Bruins instead of what he feared would happen if he touched the puck. Look at how close he is and look how far the Bruins are. You arent winning #$%# with a player making 11 million (12% of the cap)with this mindset. More importantly playing 20 mins a night. This isnt basketball, its a physical sport, the league likes physical hockey and refs police as they are told... as Nylander said, this isnt junior bro. if you fear physical areas your team will suffer.

If one image could summarize why a player sucks in the playoffs, this would be it:


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He led the team in playoff scoring the year before. Everyone just got super emotional and completely turned on Marner. I don’t really think he’s as poor as people are saying. But of course I’ll listen if we can move him to improve our chances of winning the Cup.

 

[Racer88]

He’s still an excellent player, you can’t just let him walk.

It will suck to let him walk for nothing but it will be catastrophic to resign him for 7-8 years at 12 plus

He led the team in playoff scoring the year before. Everyone just got super emotional and completely turned on Marner. I don’t really think he’s as poor as people are saying. But of course I’ll listen if we can move him to improve our chances of winning the Cup.

Padding assist stats are meaningless. Its pivotal moments like Antropov showed that win rounds and playoffs, not a scared player they bails when he is really needed

 

[Antropovsky]

He led the team in playoff scoring the year before. Everyone just got super emotional and completely turned on Marner. I don’t really think he’s as poor as people are saying. But of course I’ll listen if we can move him to improve our chances of winning the Cup.

Yes... watch those points and you will see they are because of teammate plays. People really underestimate how incredible Matthews is; nhl players dont though. Which is the reason he won the Ted Lindsay a couple years ago and was a finalist over Mcdavid this year. Marner collected numerous points from plays by Nylander and Matthews. Also got a phantom point on a sh goal by Kampf which really was a clearing attempt. He got alot of points because he played alot of mins with Matthews, Nylander, Rielly... and they were incredible. Only a few were by driven by Marner.

Marner is a one trick pony...hangs out in the open areas on lines with ridoculously skilled players. For example 6 million ehlers produces as much on even strength. Only Marner is with supremely skilled teammates. What happened when Marners supremely skilled linamtes were sick? He produced 3 points in 7 games. 1 was a clean faceoff win where he touched ot back to the defenseman who shot and scored thanks to a fantastic screen by Bertuzzi.

Marner doesnt screen goaliea, doesnt go into corners, rarely is in the slot, is in bottom 50% in speed and shot speed and people really think hes found a cheat code of not requiring the skills of elite players in the league? He sucks in the playoffs because he lacka these skills...its not surprising in the least. Btw Dubas was ready to trade him after last years playoffs, despite his production, which means he saw why he produced too.

 

[IPS]

Yes... watch those points and you will see they are because of teammate plays. People really underestimate how incredible Matthews is; nhl players dont though. Which is the reason he won the Ted Lindsay a couple years ago and was a finalist over Mcdavid this year. Marner collected numerous points from plays by Nylander and Matthews. Also got a phantom point on a sh goal by Kampf which really was a clearing attempt. He got alot of points because he played alot of mins with Matthews, Nylander, Rielly... and they were incredible. Only a few were by driven by Marner.

Marner is a one trick pony...hangs out in the open areas on lines with ridoculously skilled players. For example 6 million ehlers produces as much on even strength. Only Marner is with supremely skilled teammates. What happened when Marners supremely skilled linamtes were sick? He produced 3 points in 7 games. 1 was a clean faceoff win where he touched ot back to the defenseman who shot and scored thanks to a fantastic screen by Bertuzzi.

Marner doesnt screen goaliea, doesnt go into corners, rarely is in the slot, is in bottom 50% in speed and shot speed and people really think hes found a cheat code of not requiring the skills of elite players in the league? He sucks in the playoffs because he lacka these skills...its not surprising in the least. Btw Dubas was ready to trade him after last years playoffs, despite his production, which means he saw why he produced too.

Despite his lack of playoff production the voters still voted Matthews as the 3rd best center in the world only behind McDavid and Mack. They still voted him ahead of Barkov and Draisaitl.

Didn't seem like they afforded Marner this same leniency. I think they know whats up.

 

[Antropovsky]

Despite his lack of playoff production the voters still voted Matthews as the 3rd best center in the world only behind McDavid and Mack. They still voted him ahead of Barkov and Draisaitl.

Didn't seem like they afforded Marner this same leniency. I think they know whats up.

Marner plays with a top 3 center but struggles to break 100 points... hmm wonder whats up?

 

[myleafs]

I keep asking the posters who say "nothing has changed", despite the changes in defence, goaltending, coaching, and now leadership, to explain exactly what they would consider change.

I've mainly got back silence. Other than that, they want one or more of the five with NMCs traded, despite that being virtually impossible. I did have one person mention Shanahan, which I would like to see too.

You know what that means.....come on now.