Marner Predictions - What Happens Now

[Dekes For Days]

What team is signing him to 8x12.5?

Pretty much any team that gets the chance.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Pretty much any team that gets the chance.

Nobody can give him 12.5x8 except Toronto right now. 12.5x7 yes. I'm all for giving them the chance and seeing who does.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Shanahan just said that Marner has had a great off-season. Well hell, watch out world! I can only imagine the fear enveloping the other franchises in the NHL right about now.

 

[rumman]

Shanahan just said that Marner has had a great off-season. Well hell, watch out world! I can only imagine the fear enveloping the other franchises in the NHL right about now.

Also said he’s a 100 point player which technically is bullshit. Shanahan pumping Mitch’s tires before camp even starts tells me they’re running it back with him, cap be damned………

 

[Gary Nylund]

Also said he’s a 100 point player which technically is bullshit. Shanahan pumping Mitch’s tires before camp even starts tells me they’re running it back with him, cap be damned………

Yeah I noticed that 100 points nonsense too but perhaps the biggest news is that according to the puppet master behind the Shanaplpan, Marner has grown from a boy to now being a man. On one hand, that sounds like good news but on the other hand, if they were willing to pay him 11 million a year as a boy, I can only imagine what his next contract might look like. I heard someone suggest 14+ million and while my first thought was no way, more like 12+ would be my guess I now realize that his last contract ended up being about 2 million a year more than I was expecting so maybe 14+ will end up being the number.

In any case, it was weird to see praise being heaped on a guy who's performance in the biggest playoffs games has never been great, and seems to be getting even worse.

 

[francis246]

Also said he’s a 100 point player which technically is bullshit. Shanahan pumping Mitch’s tires before camp even starts tells me they’re running it back with him, cap be damned………

I don’t think they are bringing JT back, all the moves feel like they are preparing to transition from JT. I think management doesn’t want to walk away from good players. I do think this is going to be a good year but we’ll see how they do under Berube. His presser gave off a good vibe. Lines seem like they will be more balanced. If we have Grebby, Minten, Cowan, McMann, Robertson, Knies all take steps as forwards we don’t need 22 mill. JT’s 11 mill can be reinvested immediately into defense.

Marner staying I think has little to do with his actual performance this year and which forwards take steps. If we get 3 or 4 of those guys become legit 20 goal scorers & Woll or Stolarz becomes an answer in net. I can 100% see them running it back and continuing to upgrade defense through UFA.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

If you really love someone, let them go.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Also said he’s a 100 point player which technically is bullshit. Shanahan pumping Mitch’s tires before camp even starts tells me they’re running it back with him, cap be damned………

Maybe he's just trying to drum up interest in a trade. If he can get a good enough offer from a good team maybe he'll ask Mitch to waive.

 

[ACC1224]

Maybe he's just trying to drum up interest in a trade. If he can get a good enough offer from a good team maybe he'll ask Mitch to waive.

How does that work?

 

[notDatsyuk]

How does that work?

You work out a potential deal with a team that you think Mitch might be willing to waive his NTC to go to, and then ask him if he's willing to waive his NTC to go there.

 

[ACC1224]

You work out a potential deal with a team that you think Mitch might be willing to waive his NTC to go to, and then ask him if he's willing to waive his NTC to go there.

What does that have to do with Shanahan talking at a press conference?

 

[rumman]

I don’t think they are bringing JT back, all the moves feel like they are preparing to transition from JT. I think management doesn’t want to walk away from good players. I do think this is going to be a good year but we’ll see how they do under Berube. His presser gave off a good vibe. Lines seem like they will be more balanced. If we have Grebby, Minten, Cowan, McMann, Robertson, Knies all take steps as forwards we don’t need 22 mill. JT’s 11 mill can be reinvested immediately into defense.

Marner staying I think has little to do with his actual performance this year and which forwards take steps. If we get 3 or 4 of those guys become legit 20 goal scorers & Woll or Stolarz becomes an answer in net. I can 100% see them running it back and continuing to upgrade defense through UFA.

that's a lot of IF's.............

 

[francis246]

that's a lot of IF's.............

well that's sports and the world my friend lmao, is it not? everything is an IF. we don't have crystal balls, know one knows what can happen this year. Of course there are trends and things data suggests could happen, but the reality in sports is teams have to have a lot of shit go right in order to win, favourable match ups, productivity from your top players, goaltending, you need your depth players to step, even a bit of luck goes into winning. It's why teams don't win multiple times anymore, the days of Pittsburgh, LA, Chicago is over. Most teams get 1 shot, maybe 2 shots at it to get a cup.

This year I have the Rangers and Leafs in the Eastern conference final. I think both those teams will be division winners and meet. I don't see Florida making 3 straight cup finals, they've lost quite a few guys and had perfect health outside of Ekblad last year.

 

[rumman]

Yeah I noticed that 100 points nonsense too but perhaps the biggest news is that according to the puppet master behind the Shanaplpan, Marner has grown from a boy to now being a man. On one hand, that sounds like good news but on the other hand, if they were willing to pay him 11 million a year as a boy, I can only imagine what his next contract might look like. I heard someone suggest 14+ million and while my first thought was no way, more like 12+ would be my guess I now realize that his last contract ended up being about 2 million a year more than I was expecting so maybe 14+ will end up being the number.

In any case, it was weird to see praise being heaped on a guy who's performance in the biggest playoffs games has never been great, and seems to be getting even worse.

180 degree turn from what was said in the post season presser, hard to know what's a lie and what's the truth with this lot, and Tre just sits there like a good puppy as his master spins another yarn for Leaf Nation to eat up. Our only hope is Berube doesn't become corrupted as easily as the GM..........

 

[notDatsyuk]

What does that have to do with Shanahan talking at a press conference?

You talk up a player you want to trade - pretty common tactic.

 

[rumman]

well that's sports and the world my friend lmao, is it not? everything is an IF. we don't have crystal balls, know one knows what can happen this year. Of course there are trends and things data suggests could happen, but the reality in sports is teams have to have a lot of shit go right in order to win, favourable match ups, productivity from your top players, goaltending, you need your depth players to step, even a bit of luck goes into winning. It's why teams don't win multiple times anymore, the days of Pittsburgh, LA, Chicago is over. Most teams get 1 shot, maybe 2 shots at it to get a cup.

This year I have the Rangers and Leafs in the Eastern conference final. I think both those teams will be division winners and meet. I don't see Florida making 3 straight cup finals, they've lost quite a few guys and had perfect health outside of Ekblad last year.

I have no doubt the Leafs could win their division, beyond that I have zero faith in them succeeding in the post season..........

 

[ACC1224]

You talk up a player you want to trade - pretty common tactic.

How is it a common tactic, what are you basing that on? You feel other teams are watching press conferences to form opinions on players?

 

[KPower]

What team is signing him to 8x12.5?

Have you heard of a guy named Brendan Shanahan?

 

[notDatsyuk]

How is it a common tactic, what are you basing that on? You feel other teams are watching press conferences to form opinions on players?

First, I said 'maybe', second, why wouldn't teams try to get all the information they can, and third, why are you being so obtuse?

 

[rumman]

First, I said 'maybe', second, why wouldn't teams try to get all the information they can, and third, why are you being so obtuse?

that's his schtick, the guy who knows everything, yet asked the most redundant questions...........

 

[Gary Nylund]

I don’t think they are bringing JT back, all the moves feel like they are preparing to transition from JT. I think management doesn’t want to walk away from good players. I do think this is going to be a good year but we’ll see how they do under Berube. His presser gave off a good vibe. Lines seem like they will be more balanced. If we have Grebby, Minten, Cowan, McMann, Robertson, Knies all take steps as forwards we don’t need 22 mill. JT’s 11 mill can be reinvested immediately into defense.

Marner staying I think has little to do with his actual performance this year and which forwards take steps. If we get 3 or 4 of those guys become legit 20 goal scorers & Woll or Stolarz becomes an answer in net. I can 100% see them running it back and continuing to upgrade defense through UFA.

If all those forwards take steps forward, doesn't that bolster the case for allocating Marner's cap space to beef up the D?

Edit - I'm also not sure I see them walking away from JT. He's good player and if as you say they don't want to walk away form good players, that suggests they'd keep him. For me, as always it depends on the cap hit. If JT wants 7/8 million for 5 years, I want no part of the but 5 million for 3 years would be a good deal.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Yeah I noticed that 100 points nonsense too but perhaps the biggest news is that according to the puppet master behind the Shanaplpan, Marner has grown from a boy to now being a man. On one hand, that sounds like good news but on the other hand, if they were willing to pay him 11 million a year as a boy, I can only imagine what his next contract might look like. I heard someone suggest 14+ million and while my first thought was no way, more like 12+ would be my guess I now realize that his last contract ended up being about 2 million a year more than I was expecting so maybe 14+ will end up being the number.

In any case, it was weird to see praise being heaped on a guy who's performance in the biggest playoffs games has never been great, and seems to be getting even worse.

If Marner gets 14+, the entire management team, including Shanahan, should be terminated. I can't believe Treliving is that stupid.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If Marner gets 14+, the entire management team, including Shanahan, should be terminated. I can't believe Treliving is that stupid.

On one hand, it's hard to see that happening. But then again, I was shocked to see his last contract for 11 when I was expecting 9, and it being 6 years instead of 7 was just adding insult to injury.

Tre might be that stupid, or maybe he's not. But I'm not sure who calls the shots in this circus and if it's Shanahan and he says pay him whatever he's asking for, hard to see Tre doing anything but falling in line.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, we'll see.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Prediction

• Marner gets over 100 points and his supporters say I told you so all year as if his regular season production was ever a concern
• He'll get north of 12.5Mx8 years at the apex of his point streak while the team is feeling good
• We'll lose in round 1 or early round 2
• Many believe Marner is taking too much blame for the early exit
• He extends in 2033

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Prediction

• Marner gets over 100 points and his supporters say I told you so all year as if his regular season production was ever a concern
• He'll get north of 12.5Mx8 years at the apex of his point streak while the team is feeling good
• We'll lose in round 1 or early round 2
• Many believe Marner is taking too much blame for the early exit
• He extends in 2033

If that's the case, i'll be here

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