Marner or Laine?

[Nizdizzle]

This is a dumb comparison , 2 totally different players . Marner works for Toronto and Laine works for Winnipeg , Toronto would never trade Marner and Winnipeg would never trade Laine . If either GM traded either player they would be out of a job .

What if they traded for each other? Simultaneous double firing? Followed by both teams hiring the opposing GMs??

 

[Zamuz]

I hear this a lot. Isn't that true for anyone not named Gretzky? And in that case I'd just get fourthliners since they have the most room for improvement.

Obviously everyone can improve, but I can see that Laine has high potential and more room to improve than others. And he doesn't even need to take a big step, I think he is borderline to a 100 point player when he gets consistent.

He can be easily the best player on the ice and in the next game he might be easily the worst. This has been since the start of his career.

 

[stepdad gaary]

mitch marner is the dale earnhardt of line driving while patrick laine is the tony stewart of line driving

What if they traded for each other? Simultaneous double firing? Followed by both teams hiring the opposing GMs??

the gms would have to be part of the trade. Laine+Cheveldayoff for Marner+Dubas

 

[ImpartialNHLfan]

Clearly Marner is an $11+ million player while Laine shouldn’t get less than $9 million.

That is pretty bang on. I can see Marner taking a discount though since he's livin da dream in Toronto.

 

[Psych0dad]

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It's a good thing SOMEONE is making all the plays happen, and getting the puck down to that end though, eh? Otherwise, not one goal would be scored. Laine would be trying to snipe from the other end of the ice to no avail.

You are grossly misinformed. It's assists that can't happen without goals, goals can and do happen without assists.

 

[Holymakinaw]

You are grossly misinformed. It's assists that can't happen without goals, goals can and do happen without assists.

LMAO.

 

[Psych0dad]

Actually the objective is to win... and ideally win the Cup.

Scoring goals can win you a few games. Lines that drive the play and possession win cups

The objective is to win. The only way to win is to score more goals than your opponent. So goal scoring is the only primary requirement, assists do not have to happen at all but of course they do.

 

[BAM]

Quick question - if Laine is better than Marner and Scheifele is close to AM and Wheeler is way better than Nylander and Little is close to Kadri and Trouba is close to Rielly and Buff and Morrissey are way ahead of Leaf defencemen....etc

Why are we still better than Winnipeg?

We apparently legitimately have no players that ever win a comparison in the eyes of Winnipeg fans. Yet here we are, right at the top with them.

Maybe, just maybe, we aren’t overrating some of our players and they actually are good.

This makes too much sense for any Jets fan to respond. All their star players are better than our star players yet we're ahead of them in the standings and swept the season series.

 

[stepdad gaary]

This makes too much sense for any Jets fan to respond. All their star players are better than our star players yet we're ahead of them in the standings and swept the season series.

actually its mostly non-sense and hyperbole. thats probably why no one responded to it

 

[BB88]

Luckily the objective of the game is scoring goals and not line driving.

For team to be good you need players who make lines better and drive the play.

 

[BAM]

actually its mostly non-sense and hyperbole. thats probably why no one responded to it

Oh the irony...

 

[stepdad gaary]

Oh the irony...

please. continue. tell me the irony

 

[FalcorMulch]

Laine. Good playmakers are a dime a dozen. There are a lot less top end goal scorers

Completely arbitrary analysis but there are 7 players within 10% of the goal lead and 3 players within 10% of the assist lead.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

This makes too much sense for any Jets fan to respond. All their star players are better than our star players yet we're ahead of them in the standings and swept the season series.

Probably because we have actually won in the playoffs with this group and you guys haven't yet

 

[Iapyi]

I'll pretty much always take the guy who plays a 200' game over the guy who is a one trick pony albeit that one trick being such a valued asset.

Marner does it all. Laine has a great shot.

 

[stepdad gaary]

Completely arbitrary analysis but there are 7 players within 10% of the goal lead and 3 players within 10% of the assist lead.

10% from the top probably isnt the best number to use

 

[LivingRentFree]

Laine is a tier below Marner. Laine shoots, and that’s where it ends. Marner literally does it all.

 

[Psych0dad]

For team to be good you need players who make lines better and drive the play.

For a team to be good, you need to score more goals than opponent.

That makes your team better more than any other secondary aspect of hockey. Assists are nice, saves are nice, skating is nice, hitting is nice, drawing penalties is nice. But the game is decided on goals and those are just functions that support goal scoring or avoiding goals in your own end.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

For team to be good you need players who make lines better and drive the play.

Leafs could benefit more if they traded Marner for help in the back end.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

I just have to ask, why is it Laine vs every other player in the known universe all the time in here?

Because a few years ago, some Leaf fans had their feelings hurt when their lord and savior was compared to our guy. It's been a war ever since.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

If you want a shooter, Laine. If you want a playmaker, Marner.

It's really that simple.

I'm super super biased.
But id take Marner 10/10 times. He brings a little extra.

Even if my line 1 had a playmaker center..... Marner meshes well enough to elevate anyone's game.

But again I am biased.....
I'm not a Laine hater though, just think he's a marvelous line complimentary player, not a driver

 

[Rich Nixon]

Laine. Marner's an absolutely incredible player, but there's a lot more guys like him in the league and in prospect pools. If you can coach Laine up a little you'll have the most unique weapon in the league. Not a slight to Marner at all.

We'll see how Marner maintains his pace this year, too. He's off to a hell of a start, but I don't see him finishing with 115 points (nor do I see Laine potting close to 65 goals). Could be wrong, though.

 

[FalcorMulch]

10% from the top probably isnt the best number to use

What is a good number? It's the same story with 20% and 30%. I'm seeing nothing that suggests that elite playmakers are any less rare than elite goal scorers.

 

[Psych0dad]

Laine is a tier below Marner. Laine shoots, and that’s where it ends. Marner literally does it all.

Laine is a fantastic playmaker. He just doesn't get used as one because he has the best shot in the game. Naturally, he should primarily shoot. In the last game he had two great chances to shoot but he tried to set up Little with a sick feed both times and Little didn't even get a shot on goal on those empty net tap ins. Laine should have shot on both occasions, and the coach should be reminding him "assists are for assistants"

 

[Zamuz]

This makes too much sense for any Jets fan to respond. All their star players are better than our star players yet we're ahead of them in the standings and swept the season series.

2 games is such a big sample size, wow!

might want to check back to last season, 2nd best team in the NHL while the best team was in the same division? confrence finals?

oh wait but 2 games on regular season