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No joke at all, if the leafs trade Marner, I will no longer be a fan of this team...
That goes for Matthews & Nylander too!
It's almost impossible to draft players like this fwiw never trade player's like this unless you absolutely must & that's not the case!

Sign Matthews
Sign Nylander (if possible)
Tavares has got to go at all costs!
Sign UFAs that will impact playoff hockey

PS it took Washington/Ovie 13 years to get over the hump and win it all so there's still hope with this core imho
 
AustonMarner said:
No joke at all, if the leafs trade Marner, I will no longer be a fan of this team...
That goes for Matthews & Nylander too!
It's almost impossible to draft players like this fwiw never trade player's like this unless you absolutely must & that's not the case!

Sign Matthews
Sign Nylander (if possible)
Tavares has got to go at all costs!
Sign UFAs that will impact playoff hockey

PS it took Washington/Ovie 13 years to get over the hump and win it all so there's still hope with this core imho
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It did take Washington many years but their Core changed plenty over the years. They didn’t stand Pat expecting different results after doing the same thing.
 
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um said:
It did take Washington many years but their Core changed plenty over the years. They didn’t stand Pat expecting different results after doing the same thing.
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Who said stand pat? lol
Tavares and others have got to go...
 
um said:
don't see how they trade Tavares but I agree with your take.
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That's gotta be Trevling's top trade priority...
Does anyone fall down more times per game than Tavares? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Perhaps a rebuilding team might covet his "leadership/intangible" qualities and as a placeholder player for teams future stars?

*Could probably sign O'Reilly at 6 x 4 in UFA
+ have 5- 6 million remaining for other player(s) to improve team "toughness" if Tavares can be traded...
 
AustonMarner said:
That's gotta be Trevling's top trade priority...
Does anyone fall down more times per game than Tavares? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Perhaps a rebuilding team might covet his "leadership/intangible" qualities and as a placeholder player for teams future stars?

*Could probably sign O'Reilly at 6 x 4 in UFA
+ have 5- 6 million remaining for other player(s) to improve team "toughness" if Tavares can be traded...
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He's got a NMC, it seems highly unlikely he'd waive it.
 
um said:
don't see how they trade Tavares but I agree with your take.
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That's gotta be Trevling's top trade priority...
Does anyone fall down more times per game than Tavares? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Perhaps a rebuilding team might covet his "leadership/intangible" qualities and as a placeholder player for teams future stars?

*Could probably sign O'Reilly at 6 x 4 in UFA
+ have 5- 6 million remaining for other player(s) to improve team "toughness" if Tavares can be traded
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He's got a NMC, it seems highly unlikely he'd waive it.
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That's why Shanahan brought in a new GM I believe...
If he's told by Trevling that he's no longer part of the teams future plans, will he honourably accept a trade to a team that "wants" him?

Pajamas or no Pajamas, Tavares has got to go...
No hard feelings of course...
 
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AustonMarner said:
No joke at all, if the leafs trade Marner, I will no longer be a fan of this team...
That goes for Matthews & Nylander too!
It's almost impossible to draft players like this fwiw never trade player's like this unless you absolutely must & that's not the case!

Sign Matthews
Sign Nylander (if possible)
Tavares has got to go at all costs!
Sign UFAs that will impact playoff hockey

PS it took Washington/Ovie 13 years to get over the hump and win it all so there's still hope with this core imho
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Marner is really bad at the playoffs. He's like the Pascal Siakim of the Leafs. Everybody builds the guy up and makes him into this beast and he is, until he faces high pressure scenarios where he becomes, junk.

Matthews and Nylander sure. Trade JT and Marner absolutely if you could get good returns.
 
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AustonMarner said:
No joke at all, if the leafs trade Marner, I will no longer be a fan of this team...
That goes for Matthews & Nylander too!
It's almost impossible to draft players like this fwiw never trade player's like this unless you absolutely must & that's not the case!

Sign Matthews
Sign Nylander (if possible)
Tavares has got to go at all costs!
Sign UFAs that will impact playoff hockey

PS it took Washington/Ovie 13 years to get over the hump and win it all so there's still hope with this core imho
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Then you're not a fan of the team. You're a fan of MM
 
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thewave said:
Marner is really bad at the playoffs. He's like the Pascal Siakim of the Leafs. Everybody builds the guy up and makes him into this beast and he is, until he faces high pressure scenarios where he becomes, junk.

Matthews and Nylander sure. Trade JT and Marner absolutely if you could get good returns.
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Best player on the Leafs. Too bad you think he has to shoot baskets
 
thewave said:
Marner is really bad at the playoffs. He's like the Pascal Siakim of the Leafs. Everybody builds the guy up and makes him into this beast and he is, until he faces high pressure scenarios where he becomes, junk.

Matthews and Nylander sure. Trade JT and Marner absolutely if you could get good returns.
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Marner is 100pt/200foot/1st line/all star/PK/PP hometown/homegrown/potential HOFer (if all goes well) player and the straw that stirs the drink and elevates any player he plays with
He's not being traded so... lol

JT trade would be an addition by subtraction sorta' trade imho

Hopefully Trevling can get something for him lol
 
Here's Marner bad at playoffs;
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ShaneFalco said:
at 11 millwith his over the glass penalties, giveaways, perimeter playoff play despite getting 24 min and first PP - not sure how that stat supports anything solid
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If you say so... stats are only worth so much... gotta actually be able to critically watch actual hockey games as well...
Eye test will always be worth so much more than stats can ever be analyzed... although they obviously still have there place...
We'll just have to disagree on this one it would seem, cheers
 
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AustonMarner said:
Here's Marner bad at playoffs;
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This is the problem with the leafs bros. Sure they put up points but which of them is going to block a shot or go hard to the net, or protect their teammates if it came to it. They are younger, better versions of Kessel. Good player but they cannot be the focal point of the team. Kessel needed Crosby and Malkin to win a cup. I cannot see these guys ever leading the leafs to a cup because they will never put the needs of the team over themselves.

1. You cannot build a team around a winger.
2. You cannot commit 50% of cap to 4 forwards, none of which provide leadership or heart.
3. Imo marner is most likely to be traded because they will almost certainly need to overpay for matthews and nylander will be cheaper than marner. If nylander is looking for $9-10 million, marner will be looking for $11.5-12.5. Id rather have an 80 point winger and $2 million cap space than a 100 point winger and less cap space.
 
Notsince67 said:
Best player on the Leafs. Too bad you think he has to shoot baskets
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Not even close, I would take both the 40+ scorers over the soft play maker that can't execute in the playoff game. His playoff points are PP or some outlet pass that other guys work in to goals because they can shoot like a man, not a 16 year old. He does fire some lovely corsi shots in though, gotta get those advanced stats up for the next contract.

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He's a top 2 player on the team during the regular season for sure.
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When every is playing loose he can do some amazing plays. When they tighten up and take away time and space, check hard, not so much.
 
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Marner should take a year off hockey to be a welder or bricklayer for a year to toughen his skin abit.
 
thewave said:
Not even close, I would take both the 40+ scorers over the soft play maker that can't execute in the playoff game. His playoff points are PP or some outlet pass that other guys work in to goals because they can shoot like a man, not a 16 year old. He does fire some lovely corsi shots in though, gotta get those advanced stats up for the next contract.



When every is playing loose he can do some amazing plays. When they tighten up and take away time and space, check hard, not so much.
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It's a nice story but laughably wrong. He is in the middle of most scoring chances. Fabricated fiction is your genre.
 
Notsince67 said:
It's a nice story but laughably wrong. He is in the middle of most scoring chances. Fabricated fiction is your genre.
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I dont think it is debatable that he is a good player and we are lucky to have him. The issue is about cap and marners percieved self worth. All 3 if matthews, marner, and nylander are going to use personal stats and success to try to justify new contracts that are even more expensive then their current ones.

The issue is this is a team sport and we cannot have team success if we prioritize individual success. Until one of them realizes that they want to win as well as make money, the team cannot be competitive with these guys since they cannot put together the rest of the team with limited capspace.

If they cared about their teammates they each could have taken a million less and we probably could have kept hyman. They will never put their teammates before themselves which is why i believe strongly that 2 of the 3 should get traded.
 
Warming back up to Marner with new GM.

You know, I hear about regular season success for Dubas, but how do you not even have a Presidents Trophy by now when you have regular season performer like Marner on the team. Marner is top 5 in the league prior to playoffs, we should have one by now. That's on the GM and tells you team isn't ready for playoffs.

Dubas did not do good job helping core. Even O'Reilly addition turned out to be more hype than useful. O'Reilly didn't do anything unless someone like Marner did all the work first.
 
AustonMarner said:
Marner is 99pt/200foot/1st line/all star/PK/PP hometown/homegrown/potential HOFer (if all goes well) player and the straw that stirs the drink and elevates any player he plays with
He's not being traded so... lol

JT trade would be an addition by subtraction sorta' trade imho

Hopefully Trevling can get something for him lol
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Hometown, homegrown? Grass-fed too?

I'm sorry but being homegrown should be way down on the list. Potential HOFer? He is paid like one for sure.

Don't let his physique confuse you, he is a grown (homegrown) man, we are paying him to score goals, not for his potential anymore.
 
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