I didn’t say nothing but it’s thin. We don’t have cheap, elite talent and nothing to replace Tavares. We also need a big defensive dman. We have holes that need filling.
Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition
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TheBeastCoast
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What top teams have elite prospects waiting to replace their elite players? For where we have been drafting the last 5 years our prospect pool is great.
I think your expectations are completely out of whack. What top teams, consistently at the top, could you say have drafted elite talent? I mean, look at their recent picks and could you realistically say any of them have drafted elite talent?
I know man. I was pointing out to the guy that the Leafs have lots of potential players that could make an impact, more so than many other teams in my view. You 100% misunderstood my response.
Knies is going to make a big difference
Al14
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I think it's way too early to count on him yet. He hasn't even signed an EL contract!
Martin Skoula
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Almost like he has to wait for his college season to end before he’s allowed signing it!
ULF_55
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I'm not counting on any player to carry the team, not even Matthews.
It would be nice if someone did, but I'm not counting on it.
I'd be satisfied if the team showed up.
ULF_55
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From the 2020 draft, the Leafs have 2 players who have been playing against men for 4 years.
Also a couple college players who're finishing their 3rd. year?
Be interesting to see if any of them get any minutes with the Marlies/Leafs this year.
I'm guessing it'll be next year, and the college kids might go full term.
Tverberg (hearing Muppets in my head) will be 21 this month.
Also a couple college players who're finishing their 3rd. year?
Be interesting to see if any of them get any minutes with the Marlies/Leafs this year.
I'm guessing it'll be next year, and the college kids might go full term.
Tverberg (hearing Muppets in my head) will be 21 this month.
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Nicky Bobby number of games by season:
2017-18 - 62
2018-19 - 59
2019-20 - 50
2020-21 - 27
2021-22 - 38
2022-23 - 17
I love this guy's fearless playing style but he needs to change something, clearly his body can't handle it. Hope he's fine for training camp.
I’m going to be brutally honest. Of the 5ish games i have seen of uconn, i did not know this guy existed. If anything, i thought the other 5th year, justin pearson, was a lot more noticeable.
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uncleben
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Robertson is out for the season.
This kid is short (5'8").
Dubas only acquires short players.jpeg
Therefore this ECHL signing must be Dubas' replacement player for Robertson, on the Leafs
I’m not convinced his body can’t handle it. It may just be bad luck.
SeaOfBlue
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He has suffered from a lot of freak injuries.
The guy needs to learn how to balance on his skates. He has a lot of awkward falls and just lands wrong, and a lot of it is not even major contact.
On this note, Wheeler is releasing his ranking of each team's prospect pool counting down day by day. So far:
32. Colorado
31. Tampa
30. Boston
29. Pittsburgh
28. Vancouver
27. Islanders
26. Florida
25. Washington
24. Ottawa
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Moreso terrible managing. Their prospects have developed well to a certain degree. From Tkachuk to Stutzle to Batherson to Norris, Chabot, Sanderson, etc. They might be missing a superstar but they have more than enough top end players to be a playoff team.
Their team has been terribly managed though and their supporting cast is pretty bad. Coaching has been subpar as well. Their recent ranking is a mix of a lot of graduations and trading a bunch of top picks for veterans, which has not good well.
Americanadian
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Of note:
59: Knies
121: Sandin
142: Niemela
Players who were ranked in my most recent under-23 list but who missed the cut this time:
Robertson
TheBeastCoast
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Also while Sanderson looks good early in his career...Chabot looks to be just kind of bad. Creates a massive hole in their defense when the building block they were counting on for the defense actually sucks and you have already committed to him long term and all of a sudden need that much more from Sanderson.
The trade that effectively netted us Niemela and Hirvonen for Tyler Kleven is an example of poor draft asset management by the Sens.
Gotta feel for Nick at this point. Injuries are part of the game, but he's had a careers worth of injury in his first 3+ years of pro hockey. It was always the risk with a player of his size. To his credit he has built up his strength as best he can, but he tends to play a lot bigger then he actually is and it can get him into trouble. I love his compete level, and his willingness to go into the dirty areas to hunt pucks, but if he cannot protect himself in the process he will need to adapt the way he plays. Afterall, the best ability is availability.
NIck's got a top 5% release and shot by NHL standards, and he has above average vison and creativity with the puck on his stick. His speed doesnt hurt or help him, but his strength on the puck continues to be a bit of an issue. Again, to his credit, he has come leaps and bounds from when he first turned pro with respect to his strength on the puck. Even last season, he spent at least 10+ times/game on all 4's, picking himself off the ice with even the slightest of contact. He improved immensely in that regard this season.
The one thing I have always noticed with Nick, is that he is far too busy away from the puck. He never lets the play come to him, and it prevents him from finding the quiet areas of the ice. It's almost as if he is trying to do too much. Nick will most likely never be a player who drives play, or is even expected to. He needs to get lost in the play, and become available more. All good goal scorers do this. If you Iso-cam Auston he is one of the very best at this in the world. So many times will we hear announcers say, "how do you leave a guy like that so wide open" when talking about Auston, and it's not a fluke.
I want to say every one of Nicks injuries have come as a result of his play along the boards, and not anticipating or bracing for contact the way he should be. Part of that lack of anticipation is because of Nick wanting to do too much. He wants to be first on that puck, he wants to play in the hard areas, but sometimes you need to play with the cards you're dealt. I understand it's unfair to keep referencing Auston with respect to Nick, But how many times have you seen Auston willingly avoid contact in the corners, allow the opposition to gain possession, only to use his legs and active stick to strip the puck away almost instantaneously. Of course Auston is one of the best player in the world at that as well, but even a guy like Kerfoot understands that sometimes you are not in a position to make a physical play on the puck.
Nick has all the talent in the world. I still have hopes for him as his shot is legitimately a difference maker. Or at least should be. But he needs to adapt the way he plays IMO. These injuries are equal parts him not protecting himself and bad luck. But as I've said with Nick since the day we selected him, this kid wants it more than anyone. That drive is hard to come by. Still such a young kid, and he'll have plenty of opportunity to make the lineup in years to come. I just hope all of these scars are building a bit more of a case to adapt his game overall
NIck's got a top 5% release and shot by NHL standards, and he has above average vison and creativity with the puck on his stick. His speed doesnt hurt or help him, but his strength on the puck continues to be a bit of an issue. Again, to his credit, he has come leaps and bounds from when he first turned pro with respect to his strength on the puck. Even last season, he spent at least 10+ times/game on all 4's, picking himself off the ice with even the slightest of contact. He improved immensely in that regard this season.
The one thing I have always noticed with Nick, is that he is far too busy away from the puck. He never lets the play come to him, and it prevents him from finding the quiet areas of the ice. It's almost as if he is trying to do too much. Nick will most likely never be a player who drives play, or is even expected to. He needs to get lost in the play, and become available more. All good goal scorers do this. If you Iso-cam Auston he is one of the very best at this in the world. So many times will we hear announcers say, "how do you leave a guy like that so wide open" when talking about Auston, and it's not a fluke.
I want to say every one of Nicks injuries have come as a result of his play along the boards, and not anticipating or bracing for contact the way he should be. Part of that lack of anticipation is because of Nick wanting to do too much. He wants to be first on that puck, he wants to play in the hard areas, but sometimes you need to play with the cards you're dealt. I understand it's unfair to keep referencing Auston with respect to Nick, But how many times have you seen Auston willingly avoid contact in the corners, allow the opposition to gain possession, only to use his legs and active stick to strip the puck away almost instantaneously. Of course Auston is one of the best player in the world at that as well, but even a guy like Kerfoot understands that sometimes you are not in a position to make a physical play on the puck.
Nick has all the talent in the world. I still have hopes for him as his shot is legitimately a difference maker. Or at least should be. But he needs to adapt the way he plays IMO. These injuries are equal parts him not protecting himself and bad luck. But as I've said with Nick since the day we selected him, this kid wants it more than anyone. That drive is hard to come by. Still such a young kid, and he'll have plenty of opportunity to make the lineup in years to come. I just hope all of these scars are building a bit more of a case to adapt his game overall
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