Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

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If the list includes Andreas Johnsson, Pierre Engvall and Tomas Kaberle, then Ryan Tverberg wouldn’t mind joining it one day.

The three former Maple Leafs persevered and eventually made it to National Hockey League after they were late-round draft picks by Toronto, making varying impacts once they skated in blue and white.

Johnsson was selected 202nd overall in 2013, a year before Engvall was picked by the Leafs 188th in 2014. Back in 1996, Kaberle was the 204th overall choice by the Leafs.

Tverberg already has advanced rather well since the Leafs announced his name 213th overall in the 2020 draft, which was done virtually because of the pandemic.

Following three seasons at the University of Connecticut, Tverberg signed a future three-year entry-level contract with the Leafs in March and is going to spend his summer preparing to take a run at a full-time job at forward with the Toronto Marlies.

“It was kind of like a driving point — seventh round, low expectations,” Tverberg said on Thursday following on-ice workouts at the Leafs’ development camp at the Ford Performance Centre.

“It’s a long development, but getting the opportunity to play in different situations (at UConn) and playing more minutes really helped me in all aspects of the game and in trying to become a complete player.

“Since (being drafted), I’ve grown a lot more, got a lot stronger. I’m a late bloomer, so I was able to catch up.”

The Richmond Hill native was third in Huskies scoring in 2022-23, recording 30 points (15 goals and 15 assists) in 35 games. Following his signing with the Leafs, the 6-foot, 190-pound Tverberg played in seven games with the Marlies, getting a taste of what to expect as he takes the next step in his hockey career.

For Tverberg, part of the adjustment to the American Hockey League will be finding a way to use his offensive instincts in a game that will be tighter than what he has known in the NCAA. At the same time, being more responsible defensively won’t be any less important.

“I want to get a better feel for the game, gain more confidence in myself playing at the pro level,” Tverberg said. “Whatever situations I’m put in, I want to be able to get through them and play my best.”
 
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If the list includes Andreas Johnsson, Pierre Engvall and Tomas Kaberle, then Ryan Tverberg wouldn’t mind joining it one day.

The three former Maple Leafs persevered and eventually made it to National Hockey League after they were late-round draft picks by Toronto, making varying impacts once they skated in blue and white.

Johnsson was selected 202nd overall in 2013, a year before Engvall was picked by the Leafs 188th in 2014. Back in 1996, Kaberle was the 204th overall choice by the Leafs.

Tverberg already has advanced rather well since the Leafs announced his name 213th overall in the 2020 draft, which was done virtually because of the pandemic.

Following three seasons at the University of Connecticut, Tverberg signed a future three-year entry-level contract with the Leafs in March and is going to spend his summer preparing to take a run at a full-time job at forward with the Toronto Marlies.

“It was kind of like a driving point — seventh round, low expectations,” Tverberg said on Thursday following on-ice workouts at the Leafs’ development camp at the Ford Performance Centre.

“It’s a long development, but getting the opportunity to play in different situations (at UConn) and playing more minutes really helped me in all aspects of the game and in trying to become a complete player.

“Since (being drafted), I’ve grown a lot more, got a lot stronger. I’m a late bloomer, so I was able to catch up.”


The Richmond Hill native was third in Huskies scoring in 2022-23, recording 30 points (15 goals and 15 assists) in 35 games. Following his signing with the Leafs, the 6-foot, 190-pound Tverberg played in seven games with the Marlies, getting a taste of what to expect as he takes the next step in his hockey career.

For Tverberg, part of the adjustment to the American Hockey League will be finding a way to use his offensive instincts in a game that will be tighter than what he has known in the NCAA. At the same time, being more responsible defensively won’t be any less important.

“I want to get a better feel for the game, gain more confidence in myself playing at the pro level,” Tverberg said. “Whatever situations I’m put in, I want to be able to get through them and play my best.”

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People keep getting hung up on the height of players, yet there is a lot of examples around the league if guys flourishing in different roles at 5'9 or 5'10.

The league is trending smaller. Just look at how many smaller players are starting to get selected in the 1st round now.
I think it is a few, not a lot.

The Leafs smallest player last season was listed @ 6'
Not counting Robertson who got tossed on his ear like a sack of potatoes.
 
People keep getting hung up on the height of players, yet there is a lot of examples around the league if guys flourishing in different roles at 5'9 or 5'10.

The league is trending smaller. Just look at how many smaller players are starting to get selected in the 1st round now.
624 players played 42 or more games last season. 23 of those, or a bit under 4%, were 5'10" or shorter. So certainly not impossible but odds are not in your favor.
 
People keep getting hung up on the height of players, yet there is a lot of examples around the league if guys flourishing in different roles at 5'9 or 5'10.

The league is trending smaller. Just look at how many smaller players are starting to get selected in the 1st round now.
Plus, he’s got a history of being a pesky rat type.
Build up the core and legs and go irritate the helloutta everybody.
 
624 players played 42 or more games last season. 23 of those, or a bit under 4%, were 5'10" or shorter. So certainly not impossible but odds are not in your favor.

If there's a smaller prospect you feel is truly head and shoulders above the crowd (figuratively obviously, because in a literal sense they can't see over anyone's shoulders), then sure, draft away.

But your prospect pool shouldn't have like 10 forward prospects who are that small. We focused on it too much the last few years.
 
People keep getting hung up on the height of players, yet there is a lot of examples around the league if guys flourishing in different roles at 5'9 or 5'10.

The league is trending smaller. Just look at how many smaller players are starting to get selected in the 1st round now.
I don't think that's really true. I think it's the same as it's always been and that there is a few smaller guys who make it and have successful careers but there's a lot more who don't pan out and usually end up in the KHL or some other league overseas. I don't mind drafting smaller guys, but when you draft a lot of them and most of them don't have skating as a strong suit then I think it's fair for most to be concerned with our prospect pool. Hockey IQ can only get you so far.
 
I don't think that's really true. I think it's the same as it's always been and that there is a few smaller guys who make it and have successful careers but there's a lot more who don't pan out and usually end up in the KHL or some other league overseas. I don't mind drafting smaller guys, but when you draft a lot of them and most of them don't have skating as a strong suit then I think it's fair for most to be concerned with our prospect pool. Hockey IQ can only get you so far.

If you're 5'10 or less and not an *ELITE* (all caps for emphasis) - you're a non-draft or you need everything else to be elite.
 
I don't like the pick this year but he's going to play super high motor even at 5 10 super smart players with decent wheels and a high compete level play 9 times out of ten it'd were he plays and honestly I don't know it's why I don't like the pick also he's not slight I'm betting in 2 years he's built like a fire hydrant
 
Last day of dev camp with the scrimmage I believe. No idea if it will be televised or recorded, but I'm sure some reports will bootleg some of the events.
 
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