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Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

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TheBeastCoast said:
I mean that is a pretty easy decision. If you have to gut your farm team of org depth guys to load up your NHL team for a run at the cup...well that is just the way it goes.
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They could have traded a weaker forward like Ovi or Ellis who isn't a difference maker. Or a defenseman, like Kral or Mete (Who doesn't appear to be returning) because like the Leafs they're D heavy. I think if you're going to gut a calder threat, at least give them back some firepower some how. Look around. They KO'ed the Marlies to prop up the Leafs. But, I was kind of looking forward to both having an exciting post-season.
 
Magic Man said:
It makes you wonder if they were considering the Marlies at all with their deadline moves. At the time the Marlies were in first place and it was by a landslide. But, since the deadline they've been in free fall.

When the Leafs were agreeing which contract to send back they really should have been more selective. They lost Anderson, Gaudette and Abramov up front and never properly replaced them. The team has been running ECHL level forwards since they left. When trying to improve the Leafs, they didn't fix the holes they made on the Marlies. So, they kind of butchered their #1 seed farm team to stack the Leafs for their run.

It looks like the Marlies are now going to be a first round out instead of a calder cup threat.
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You do what you have to for the NHL team.. but the Marlies aren't THAT bad when both teams are fully healthy.
 
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Magic Man said:
They could have traded a weaker forward like Ovi or Ellis who isn't a difference maker. Or a defenseman, like Kral or Mete (Who doesn't appear to be returning) because like the Leafs they're D heavy. I think if you're going to gut a calder threat, at least give them back some firepower some how. Look around. They KO'ed the Marlies to prop up the Leafs. But, I was kind of looking forward to both having an exciting post-season.
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1) Agreed with the other posters: happy to knee-cap the Marlies' Calder Cup chances if that is what is needed to get deadline deals done.
2) While hardly blue chippers, Ovchinnikov, Ellis, and Kral are still 'prospects'. You really want to jettison a 20 year old Ovchinnikov after 11 AHL games? Ellis is also a fresh ELC, who the Leafs presumably saw 'something' in (and I personally like his skating a lot). Kral earned a brief call-up this year before his injury. I'd keep all those lottery tickets over one AHL playoff run with Gaudette and/or Anderson...

Mete, maybe, but he's presumably out for the year (note he'll be an RFA). The Blackhawks (who also took Gogolev as a pure contract dump) will have wanted to give Anderson a shot and the Blues presumably prefer having Gaudette as available depth for the rest of the year + he's an RFA. Both of those teams will be more frugal than the Leafs in regard to contracts in the minors too.
 
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Flint facing elimination tomorrow, Kressler has not played. Personally I think he should go back for an OA year (maybe not in Flint)- only has 92 games (playoff and regular reason ) in the O over the last 3 seasons.

Sarnia going for the sweep tonight, Voit 5A in 3 games so far
 
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Magic Man said:
It makes you wonder if they were considering the Marlies at all with their deadline moves. At the time the Marlies were in first place and it was by a landslide. But, since the deadline they've been in free fall.

When the Leafs were agreeing which contract to send back they really should have been more selective. They lost Anderson, Gaudette and Abramov up front and never properly replaced them. The team has been running ECHL level forwards since they left. When trying to improve the Leafs, they didn't fix the holes they made on the Marlies. So, they kind of butchered their #1 seed farm team to stack the Leafs for their run.

It looks like the Marlies are now going to be a first round out instead of a calder cup threat.
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Leafs likely had to move out players under contract to make room for the guys we brought in. Plus leave a spot for Knies. Otherwise we would be trading roster players and prospects that have higher potential and guys we'll need going forward like Hirvonen, Niemela, Voit etc.

It's worth it that we didn't move out any roster players and still managed to add 4 solid players to add depth for a cup run while also not losing any of our top prospects.
 
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Magic Man said:
It makes you wonder if they were considering the Marlies at all with their deadline moves. At the time the Marlies were in first place and it was by a landslide. But, since the deadline they've been in free fall.

When the Leafs were agreeing which contract to send back they really should have been more selective. They lost Anderson, Gaudette and Abramov up front and never properly replaced them. The team has been running ECHL level forwards since they left. When trying to improve the Leafs, they didn't fix the holes they made on the Marlies. So, they kind of butchered their #1 seed farm team to stack the Leafs for their run.

It looks like the Marlies are now going to be a first round out instead of a calder cup threat.
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Well, that’s not unfair I don’t think. The loss of Gaudette and Anderson at that level is a pretty big hit; pretty much a second line *poof*, but…..big team’s needs first has to be the ultimate goal, right?
I’d say Zohorma is an upgrade on Abramov. It’s not unreasonable to expect Topi to provide a significant boost to the backend. But overall depth took a good hit; competitively. Big test for the coach and who’s there, and a big challenge for some incoming players to assimilate quickly.
Rough for their chances if Woll is with the big team the rest of the way, too, given this years performance.
Should be interesting to watch.
 
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aingefan said:
Well, that’s not unfair I don’t think. The loss of Gaudette and Anderson at that level is a pretty big hit; pretty much a second line *poof*, but…..big team’s needs first has to be the ultimate goal, right?
I’d say Zohorma is an upgrade on Abramov. It’s not unreasonable to expect Topi to provide a significant boost to the backend. But overall depth took a good hit; competitively. Big test for the coach and who’s there, and a big challenge for some incoming players to assimilate quickly.
Rough for their chances if Woll is with the big team the rest of the way, too, given this years performance.
Should be interesting to watch.
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Don't forget that Hildeby is with the organization now too. I'm not sure where Hirvonen's team is at with playoffs right now but they could possibly be adding him soon too. Abruzzese should be back in the fold now with O'Rielly and Acciari back with the buds.
 
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acrobaticgoalie said:
Don't forget that Hildeby is with the organization now too. I'm not sure where Hirvonen's team is at with playoffs right now but they could possibly be adding him soon too. Abruzzese should be back in the fold now with O'Rielly and Acciari back with the buds.
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Yeah, you’re right; those were some of the guys I meant when I mentioned hope that guys assimilate quickly. Could be an energizing infusion of youth.
Voit too, eventually.
 
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aingefan said:
Yeah, you’re right; those were some of the guys I meant when I mentioned hope that guys assimilate quickly. Could be an energizing infusion of youth.
Voit too, eventually.
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Does Knies have the possibility to join the Marlies if he signs? Obviously I hope hes with the Leafs for a long full run but I wonder if hes eligible to play for the Leafs in the playoffs, is he also eligible for the Calder Cup?
 
Namikaze Minato said:
Does Knies have the possibility to join the Marlies if he signs? Obviously I hope hes with the Leafs for a long full run but I wonder if hes eligible to play for the Leafs in the playoffs, is he also eligible for the Calder Cup?
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IIRC No he can't. He would need to sign an ATO to go to the marlies. Next year he will be able to though.
 
What a great sports day. Masters > Jays > Knies > Leafs. Minnesota pretty unlucky they're not up two right now.

Edit: and Knies misses a wide open slot shot.
 
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