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Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2021/22

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aingefan said:
McBain Meyers and McLaughlin would be a nice trifecta, wouldn’t it?
Probably good for endorsement money too if one hit beside M&M.
In fact, why aren’t they endorsed already. Those adorable little candies on the side of helmets?
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aingefan said:
Bit of a third period collapse for the Marlies too.
I didn’t comment on Joe Woll in my first game update because I didn’t want to jinx anything.
Seems he was great in the first two periods (24/25) not so much in the third.
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Moore is just an awful coach. Part of me wants the Marlies to miss the playoffs to get the guy fired.
 
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stickty111 said:
Moore is just an awful coach. Part of me wants the Marlies to miss the playoffs to get the guy fired.
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Consistency has certainly eluded his teams. Late collapses seem pretty common.
On the other hand, guys have been developing. Lili, JoeyA, Steeves, Abramov.
He hasn’t had the impact Keefe had down there, I’ll agree.
 
aingefan said:
Consistency has certainly eluded his teams. Late collapses seem pretty common.
On the other hand, guys have been developing. Lili, JoeyA, Steeves, Abramov.
He hasn’t had the impact Keefe had down there, I’ll agree.
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Moore shouldn't be given credit for Liljegren. Keefe spent the most time with him. Maybe Anderson but he was already a good player in the AHL. Steeves I would agree but his underlying numbers are terrible which is on Moore. Abramov has been good.

Playing Randy Carlyle hockey where you get dominated but hopefully get goaltending isn't a good formula.
 
aingefan said:
Consistency has certainly eluded his teams. Late collapses seem pretty common.
On the other hand, guys have been developing. Lili, JoeyA, Steeves, Abramov.
He hasn’t had the impact Keefe had down there, I’ll agree.
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Those are high quality prospects. He better be developing them. If he wasn't, then he is practically worthless. We aren't paying him to put up mediocre AHL results.

And I would argue that none of them are developing better than expected.
 
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stickty111 said:
Moore is just an awful coach. Part of me wants the Marlies to miss the playoffs to get the guy fired.
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I think when the Leafs do a review on the Marlies at the end of the year they'll let him go unless they make a long run. They have access to the private analytics that only some companies in thr public sector do.

Theres just no way the Marlies aren't one of the worst teams based on CF%, xGF%, etc and have obviously been bailed out by simply outscoring their problems so far. The last thing they should want is for good players to come up unprepared for the NHL in regards to Keefe's systems.
 
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Not even 5 minutes in and our 4th line has 2 goals, both from Kopacka through Douglas.
 
8 minutes in. 10 shots on goal total, 5 goals. 3-2 marlies. I’m not watching, but man, someone has to stop a beach ball there.

Whatever the Leafs have must be contagious.
 
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8 minutes in. 10 shots on goal total, 5 goals. 3-2 marlies. I’m not watching, but man, someone has to stop a beach ball there.

Whatever the Leafs have must be contagious.
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The goalies have an excuse with the Marlies with the team being bad in front. The Leafs goalies can't use that excuse.
It's now 3-3. Whatever structure Keefe put with the Marlies, Moore has thrown it out the window.
Now that Kallgren is faltering which was going to happen, you see the problems. He literally stole a few games in the start of the season along with Woll. Marlies record should be a lot worse then it is.

They literally have a qualified coach right on the bench who deserves a chance but for some reason think Moore is the guy.
 
Morgs said:
I think when the Leafs do a review on the Marlies at the end of the year they'll let him go unless they make a long run. They have access to the private analytics that only some companies in thr public sector do.

Theres just no way the Marlies aren't one of the worst teams based on CF%, xGF%, etc and have obviously been bailed out by simply outscoring their problems so far. The last thing they should want is for good players to come up unprepared for the NHL in regards to Keefe's systems.
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It's awful hockey. It's Randy carlyle again. Just promote Snowden already.
 
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Douglas needs an ELC.
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After watching the bout last night between McDermid and Lucic it has me wanting a heavy weight

Simmonds doesn't have that fear factor anymore and frankly speaking he'll be over matched

Especially when we play Winnipeg again
 
fahad203 said:
After watching the bout last night between McDermid and Lucic it has me wanting a heavy weight

Simmonds doesn't have that fear factor anymore and frankly speaking he'll be over matched

Especially when we play Winnipeg again
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His skating is still a major issue.
He positionality looks pretty solid, which with his size and reach means it doesnt need to be great.
But man, even at AHL speeds you can see he is a step too slow against top opponents.
 
I don’t have a problem with Douglas’ skating.

It’s not a strong suit and he’s an awkward, lanky skater, but he has a surprisingly quick first step and perfectly fine fundamentals. He’s just a string bean at 6’9” 238lbs with very little power in his stride at this point.

Much better skater than past big guys on AHL contracts in Brazeau, Gogolev (except top speed), Gagne, etc. and doesn’t skip a beat skating with the puck on his stick.
 
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fahad203 said:
After watching the bout last night between McDermid and Lucic it has me wanting a heavy weight

Simmonds doesn't have that fear factor anymore and frankly speaking he'll be over matched

Especially when we play Winnipeg again
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He hasn't lost a fight in a long time. Josh Anderson ducked him.
 
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He hasn't lost a fight in a long time. Josh Anderson ducked him.
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He was never a true heavyweight but had more skills than almost all the guys tougher than him which made him rare and valuable. I agree he can still throwem and he gets the respect he deserves for that, but his game has never been as a 4th line energy guy or a thug off the bench so the usage the Leafs offer him may be as responsible for his infectiveness as any deterioration in his skills. He is a big body that doesn't even get warmed up with under 10:00 TOI. I know usage isn't about Simmonds needs, its about the team's needs but his performance is heavily affected by what the Leafs can offer him.

I don't have a solution except maybe for the games the club has less than 10:00 TOI to spare, don't bother playing him at all. He has 4 goals this season and in those games he never played less than 10:42. He is -4 for the season but I think +4 for the games he has played over 10:00. These "advanced stats" seemed to indicate there is a better way to use him ythn they are.
 
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Magic Man said:
1 goal, 3 primary assists for Douglas thru 2.
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I really want to see this guy up for a couple of games, just to see how he keeps up with the play. I don't imagine he has learned everything the AHL has to teach him but if he is going to make it, maybe by 23-24? He has 24 pts in 43 games as a 21 year old. Marchment has 26 points in 44 games as a 22 year old. I don't have MM's minutes or specific usage to compare, but its an interesting look at at a best case scenario.
 
Knies iT said:
I don’t have a problem with Douglas’ skating.

It’s not a strong suit and he’s an awkward, lanky skater, but he has a surprisingly quick first step and perfectly fine fundamentals. He’s just a string bean at 6’9” 238lbs with very little power in his stride at this point.

Much better skater than past big guys on AHL contracts in Brazeau, Gogolev (except top speed), Gagne, etc. and doesn’t skip a beat skating with the puck on his stick.
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I dont think his skating is good enough to be in the NHL is probably a better way to put it.
I got to see him play a ton in the OHL, and its obvious his skating has improved.
Saying that, he is still not able to keep up with even average skaters at the AHL level yet.

Maybe its spending the next two years putting on 10-15 pounds od core and lower body muscle, but as of now his game doesnt translate as anything other than a well below average speed big guy.
 
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