Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[WTFMAN99]

What was the point of Signing Cowan now before we've even had camp? Is it so he can play for the Marlies if the Knights get knocked out early at the end of the year?

I think you can slide the contract and get a lower cap hit or something.

 

[andora]

I think you can slide the contract and get a lower cap hit or something.

Yep.. pre planning for the penny pinch

 

[uncleben]

Yep.. pre planning for the penny pinch

Also just good practice in general if you have a prospect that you think has pro potential.
Anaheim, the lowest cap team in the League, has 4 slide candidates this season

 

[kerk]

he seems to be getting pretty decent ice time in these pre-season games. hopefully translates to regular season ice time.

 

[LeafChief]

Yep.. pre planning for the penny pinch

Sometimes I read comments like this on here and it's just stunning to me how little people understand of how this league operates.

Signing your 1st round pick to an ELC has nothing to do with penny pinching. Whether they signed him last week or next year, the amount of years that an ELC contract can slide does not change.

 

[andora]

Sometimes I read comments like this on here and it's just stunning to me how little people understand of how this league operates.

Signing your 1st round pick to an ELC has nothing to do with penny pinching. Whether they signed him last week or next year, the amount of years that an ELC contract can slide does not change.

Assume much.. more of a tongue in cheek comment

 

[Pholus]

Sometimes I read comments like this on here and it's just stunning to me how little people understand of how this league operates.

Signing your 1st round pick to an ELC has nothing to do with penny pinching. Whether they signed him last week or next year, the amount of years that an ELC contract can slide does not change.

Umm, but it does. ELCs can only slide 2 years at most. Signing Cowan now gives 2 years of slide, sign him next year (ie. contract starts in 24-25 season) and it would only slide once.

That said, signing 1st rd draft picks who play in the CHL immediately is extremely common and pretty sucks every team does it.

 

[uncleben]

Umm, but it does. ELCs can only slide 2 years at most. Signing Cowan now gives 2 years of slide, sign him next year (ie. contract starts in 24-25 season) and it would only slide once.

That said, signing 1st rd draft picks who play in the CHL immediately is extremely common and pretty sucks every team does it.

Slides are for 18 and 19 year olds
If Cowan signed next year at 19 and played an overager year, we could still get two

 

[Phion Keneuf]

RIP Amirov

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Such an absolute tragedy, with the passing of Rodion Amirov. Heartbreaking for his family and friends. Life isn’t fair

 

[Pholus]

Slides are for 18 and 19 year olds
If Cowan signed next year at 19 and played an overager year, we could still get two

Yes, slides are for teenagers only (as of Sept 15 of that calendar year). But prospects who sign at 19 only get one slide if born between Jan 1 and Sept 15, and no slide if born Sept 16 - Dec 31.

 

[Fogelhund]

It's been posted above, but here's a link in case anyone wanted it. Way too young, such a sad turn of events.

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[Twine Tickler]

Rodion was such an inspiring kid. I was so excited to track his progression as a player while he was healthy. Truly feel like he would have become a special player.

So many people, let alone members of the Maple Leafs could learn so much from this kid. His positivity throughout this process was so remarkable to witness. Really puts things into perspective

He will serve as our guardian angel for eternity.

RIP Rodion.

Your candle burned out long before your legend ever did

 

[barilko05]

Tragic! I thought maybe the kid had turned a corner a little while ago. We seem to have bad luck with 1st and 2nd round European prospects and health issues. Karel Pillar, Luca Cereda, now Amirov. Sad to think we'll always wonder what impact he may have made.
RIP.

 

[uncleben]

Yes, slides are for teenagers only (as of Sept 15 of that calendar year). But prospects who sign at 19 only get one slide if born between Jan 1 and Sept 15, and no slide if born Sept 16 - Dec 31.

Hmmm I thought you could still get the overage year slide, but I might be misremembering. I didn't have a chance to pull up the CBA yet

 

[justashadowof]

I know he probably isn't exactly this but there's a North American rugged forward (Tkachuk bros, Gary Roberts, Shane Corson) vibe to Nikita Grebyonkin in that highlight package.

 

[4thline]

I know he probably isn't exactly this but there's a North American rugged forward (Tkachuk bros, Gary Roberts, Shane Corson) vibe to Nikita Grebyonkin in that highlight package.

I don't get that, but saw some JVR. Slick and patient around the net.

Along with Farinacci I wouldn't mind signing Jake Wise. Really wanted him in the draft in 2018, didn't have a hot start at BU but came on strong with 2 solid years at Ohio and 3 points in 2 AHL games last year. Could use the hail mary at centre.

 

[Pholus]

Hmmm I thought you could still get the overage year slide, but I might be misremembering. I didn't have a chance to pull up the CBA yet

I believe you can only get an overage slide year when the prospect is born between Sept 16 and Dec 31 AND is signed before Dec 31 of the calendar year when they are drafted at age 18.

The last time the Leafs drafted late birthdays and then had ELC slides for the overage season was in 2015. All 3 of Dermott, Timashov & Nielsen were late birthdays who signed in the months immediately following being drafted, and then had their ELCs slide a 2nd year while they were with the Marlies.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[LaPlante94]

If this is the guy who played on Boston University a few years ago all I remember about him from a few games I watched was he was a very good skater and good with the puck. Can't remember much about the other areas of his game. Could be a good pickup if it is the guy I'm thinking of.

 

[Mitch nylander]

If this is the guy who played on Boston University a few years ago all I remember about him from a few games I watched was he was a very good skater and good with the puck. Can't remember much about the other areas of his game. Could be a good pickup if it is the guy I'm thinking of.

Yup,

He was very highly touted after his big NCAA season. Looked like another Nashville great D after their long line of drafted and developed defenseman.

 

[The Iceman]

Lets just sign all the Chicago Wolves Defence for the Marlies...

Max Lajoie
William Lagesson
David Farrance

 

[shaner8989]

Farrance is awesome. I bet he seems NHL games real soon.

 

[Mess]

Farrance is awesome. I bet he seems NHL games real soon.

This afternoon, the Leafs announced they had signed 24-year-old defenseman David Farrance to a two-way AHL deal. The left-shot blueliner was drafted in the third round of the 2017 draft by the Predators after spending two years in the US National Development Program.

Following his draft year, Farrance spent four seasons at Boston University where he had 43 points in 34 games and 16 points in 11 games his final two seasons before making his NHL debut with the Predators during the 2020-21 season. The past two seasons, Farrance spent playing in the AHL with the Milwaukee Admirals in the 2021-22 season before splitting time with the Chicago Wolves and Colorado Eagles last season. In his first AHL season he skated in 50 games and registered 14 points while he registered 24 points 45 games last season.

Farrance's addition continues to add to the prospect depth of the Leafs, but we shouldn't expect him in the NHL any time soon as he appears to be near the bottom of the Marlies' depth chart. Given that his contract is a two-way deal between the AHL and ECHL, he could also find himself spending some of the season with the Newfoundland Growlers.

 

[nuck]

It's been posted above, but here's a link in case anyone wanted it. Way too young, such a sad turn of events.

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Baby boy never got his shot. I have no idea why but this bothers me a lot more than if he had died in some kind of accident. RIP kid and hope to your family.