Marlies hire a new Goalie Coach - And then Fire Him

[Eternal Leaf]

To be fair, you'd lose your job at most companies for stuff like that. This is not exclusive to sports or the Leafs.

It's actually ridiculous Imoo left that stuff up while applying for jobs considering this stuff happens all the time. There are hundreds of examples at this point including a few in hockey too.

As for the Leafs, they made a mistake with their vetting process and need to be smarter. This is not the market for anyone with controversial opinions because everything comes out one way or another.

 

[Rob Brown]

Probably unlikely unless he posted or liked something offensive after the contract was signed. Easier just to vet and never interview.

Oh totally agree that it shouldn't have happened in the first place. Just not sure what case he actually has. Maybe they just give him a severance or something and be done with it, but being employed for two days wouldn't give you a ton of leverage in that sense.

 

[Knies iT]

Did he get fired for tweeting or retweeting or was it just “liking” a tweet? It honestly would be a bit weird if somebody gets fired for liking a tweet, I mean I get it but that is maybe the level where the good side needs to maybe check themselves a little.

He "liked" the tweets. They were not his own words.

Credited with turning around Campbell's career, but why should that matter, we need our staff to like the right tweets on Twitter. This is hockey after all.

More mickey mouse backpedaling from upper management after not even knowing about the Matthews incident. Not to mention the Keefe backstory.

 

[mikeyz]

So Dubas and Shanahan are now relying on Leafs Twitter to vet the hiring process of candidates now?

Man. I cannot wait until these 2 clowns are gone.

 

[93LEAFS]

Can’t imagine they didn’t do any vetting. Obviously they need to be more thorough.

Social media has to be one of the first places to start. Like, this isn't a mom and pop corner store. Either their vetting system is a joke, or they just ignored it (and then backed down after the backlash). Neither are acceptable from a billion-dollar public-facing organization. Especially when the most important person in all of MLSE is on the forefront of rights and opportunity issues in Masai.

 

[Sens]

Fired for liking a tweet lmao

 

[Nate070]

No one has been able to point out the racist Tweets, do you mind showing me? I haven't seen them yet.

hasn´t that loser deleted his account?

 

[Rob Brown]

Did he get fired for tweeting or retweeting or was it just “liking” a tweet? It honestly would be a bit weird if somebody gets fired for liking a tweet, I mean I get it but that is maybe the level where the good side needs to maybe check themselves a little.

Liking dozens of tweets of that nature is a pretty clear statement that that's who he is and what he agrees with. It's not like he liked one tweet accidentally.

Why should people who don't have shitty opinions have to check themselves?

 

[93LEAFS]

Oh totally agree that it shouldn't have happened in the first place. Just not sure what case he actually has. Maybe they just give him a severance or something and be done with it, but being employed for two days wouldn't give you a ton of leverage in that sense.

Its hard to fire someone once you hire them for political or social media stuff, especially if it predates you actually hiring them. That's a failure of due diligence on the employer unless he committed some sort of resume fraud.

 

[Rob Brown]

So Dubas and Shanahan are now relying on Leafs Twitter to vet the hiring process of candidates now?

Man. I cannot wait until these 2 clowns are gone.

Yes, because the guys that made a mistake and fired him are the ones at fault and not the guy with the shitty opinions.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Just a terribly run process. This is why you do background checks before you offer someone an interview if you know there is a reason like this you can't or won't hire them. Now, they take the PR hit, and possibly open themselves up to a lawsuit.

Do ppl look at Twitter likes before hiring someone?

 

[Clark4Ever]

Its a firing over wrong think. Not surprised given how pathetic this organization has become since dubas has taken over.

I fully expect campbell to walk out the door next summer and i don't blame him.

It's a new world now. People in any profession really shouldn't express their opinions regarding controversial subjects on social media or they can jeopardize their careers.

Just limit it to private conversations.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

Also from what I’ve found very little of it was actually bad…my god what softies we’ve become

 

[mikeyz]

It's actually ridiculous Imoo left that stuff up while applying for jobs considering this stuff happens all the time.

And it's even more ridiculous that Shanahan and the boy genius needed Leafs Twitter to point it out to them.

 

[sxvnert]

Considering the Matthews legal situation was discovered by a random user on twitter before the Leafs' front office knew, they really should have learned their lesson and done proper vetting. The fact that it happened again is inexcusable really

And yet matthews didnt get attacked from the twitter mob or immediately have his contract cancelled/bought out.

Gotta love that hypocracy.

 

[Nate070]

Also from what I’ve found very little of it was actually bad…my god what softies we’ve become

He has deleted his account. Must have been only nice stuff there

 

[93LEAFS]

Do ppl look at Twitter likes before hiring someone?

In a public-facing organization like the Leafs? Yes. Especially when you've tied your branding to inclusivity.

 

[mikeyz]

Yes, because the guys that made a mistake and fired him are the ones at fault and not the guy with the shitty opinions.

You completely misread/understood what I said didn't you?

 

[Leaf Fans]

I see nothing on the mainboards regarding this. I petition to delete this thread and act like Leafs never did anything like that. Can't take anymore Leafs jabs by the mainboards and friends who are the fans of other teams.

Wipe the twitter clean too.

What kind of jabs could they make? Toronto rescinds contract offer to AHL goalie coach for inappropriate behavior haha?
Team makes mistake and the corrects their mistake? Haha

 

[SeaOfBlue]

To be fair, you'd lose your job at most companies for stuff like that. This is not exclusive to sports or the Leafs.

That is true, but typically it is because the organization will find/fabricate another reason to do so. Especially in roles like Imoo, he probably had a probationary period where he could be fired without cause, and even if they came out a couple of years later, the Leafs could just say he was not performing well (even if he was the best goalie coach on the face of the earth).

An organization can't dictate what an employee does on their own time, or what they choose to like/say on Twitter, as long as he does not say it on behalf of the organization and it does not impact the workplace (there are fairly strict guidelines that outlines what applies, and I am almost 100% sure that this does not).

My main concern with all of this is that it creates a very dangerous precedent that MLSE should not be proud is public. Discrimination and prejudice is commonplace in hiring practices, and it is widely accepted or even promoted in many forms, but they usually keep it quiet. MLSE has done a very poor job at doing that recently.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

hasn´t that loser deleted his account?

That “loser” is probably 5-10 times more successful in his line of work than you’ll ever be in yours not personal just the truth

 

[Rob Brown]

And yet matthews didnt get attacked from the twitter mob or immediately have his contract cancelled/bought out.

Gotta love that hypocracy.

Except he faced legal repercussions.

Also a lot different firing someone after two days vs. voiding your star player's contract. Literally never seen anyone with that opinion since that happened, well done.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

He has deleted his account. Must have been only nice stuff there

Lots of screenshots out there if you look

 

[Rob Brown]

You completely misread/understood what I said didn't you?

When your entire post is about how management sucks and not the person that is in the wrong, you clearly just have an agenda.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I'm sure there was a clause in the contract about damaging the team's reputation and how that is grounds for termination, no?

There probably is a clause like that, but this would almost certainly not count.

I imagine it was more of a probational period that they can use to fire without cause (a fair number of contracts have them), but they did not expect to use it for this.