Value of: Mark Giordano to the Leafs.
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Why do you care so much about LD VS RD? as long as the player makes the team better that should be the focus
exactly - I am pretty sure Giordano would fumble the puck and turn it over and miss his assignments far less than Holl does regardless of what side he is on.
with all this being said - he is an improvement OVER MUZZIN AS WELL!!!!!!!!
you should always be looking to improve your team
A trade no one wants to talk about is - Muzzin for Giordano Straight up!
Seattle probably does it as they get a veteran with term and cost certainty
Leafs get the benefit of Gio (who is the better player now) and maybe roll the dice of getting him extended at 2.5-3.5 m for 2-3 year compared to Muzzin at 5.6
regardless, even if Gio walks - they shed 5.6 (Muzzin) - which can then be used elsewhere
you should always be looking to improve your team
A trade no one wants to talk about is - Muzzin for Giordano Straight up!
Seattle probably does it as they get a veteran with term and cost certainty
Leafs get the benefit of Gio (who is the better player now) and maybe roll the dice of getting him extended at 2.5-3.5 m for 2-3 year compared to Muzzin at 5.6
regardless, even if Gio walks - they shed 5.6 (Muzzin) - which can then be used elsewhere
Fogelhund
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So, if we need a replacement for Holl, which I believe you've stated is the purpose here, should we get a Winger, who makes our team better? That's ok right? Making the team better is the focus? Right? If I've misunderstood, than please correct me.
If you want to replace Holl, and make the team better... you find a player who is comfortable, and experienced at playing the position he plays... that's RD. Why obtain a player, who isn't any good there, to take that position? Many guys are just better at one side... You pick up Gio, and you probably still are stuck with Holl. Gio means moving Sandin out of the lineup. Is that what you want, or are you looking at moving Holl out? You always start with what your end goal is, and then try and find a solution to that... That's with anything in life. If your goal is to replace Holl, find a Holl replacement... someone who can play RD.
I mean your 1st line of your post is ridiculous I have said I don't particularly care which side the acquired D plays because I don't my only question is would he make the team better?
But nowhere have I suggested trading for a winger to replace Holl
If you insist on the LD VS RD set up then move Rielly to RD, we know he can do it we have seen it.
Then you got
RD
Rielly
Brodie
Lilly
LD
Muzzin
Giordano
Sandin
Holl if we can't get rid of him is now your #8 D because Dermott is #7.
Dermott being #7 is not ideal but that's quality depth.
Fogelhund
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This is your problem right here. No, he's not that good on RD. Yes, he's been tried, and there is a reason that we've had to go out and get RD to play with him, instead of moving him beside Muzzin, or any one of the other many LD we've had.
Rielly to RD is not an option.
Is your purpose here, to replace Holl?
The fact that Muzzin has a contract and the contract is what it is - is the actual problem
Muzzin is a 5.6 M shutdown defender that doesnt shut anyone down
just by virtue of replacing him/losing his contract and commitment to his contract - put you ahead of the game as a cap ceiling team - for Seattle it is the opposite
positive for toronto in a Muzzin for Gio Swap = it ensures the ability to keep Rielly's new contract AND resign Campbell AND Kase.
with commitment to Muzzin - that becomes murky
just by virtue of replacing him/losing his contract and commitment to his contract - put you ahead of the game as a cap ceiling team - for Seattle it is the opposite
positive for toronto in a Muzzin for Gio Swap = it ensures the ability to keep Rielly's new contract AND resign Campbell AND Kase.
with commitment to Muzzin - that becomes murky
If OP answers more in his own thread than others do....does the thread really exist?
PlayersLtd
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I've browsed three pages of this thread and I'm pretty sure I saw posts where he argues with his own posts.
