The Sun: Maple Leafs on trial; heads may roll. Just about everything in question.
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hotpaws
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Why would I panic ? It’s not my job on the line .
HockeyVirus
16/34/88/91/44 - Pathetic losers
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My favorite thing is most people can't remember things that happened last week but they claim they remember with crystal clarity how the team played last season to start and this start is different.
And when, not if, they go on a winning streak, these same folks claiming to fire everyone will say the wins don't matter. This is never about the teams play or potential. This is just fans having hissy fits because they didn't get what they wanted over the summer which was blood.
And when, not if, they go on a winning streak, these same folks claiming to fire everyone will say the wins don't matter. This is never about the teams play or potential. This is just fans having hissy fits because they didn't get what they wanted over the summer which was blood.
Larcos_Unal
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This is a great point. Every fan, writer, commentator can see that the team is worse than it was last year...Kyle had a shitty offseason. Surely the players can see that also and are essentially manifesting worse results cause guess what, internally worse results are expected.
Leaf Rocket
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yea when simmons says this means we are gonna win the cup. phew guys i was concerned for a while.
killer1980
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Here is Charlie Brown starring as the Toronto fans (so full of hope and optimism) and Lucy as the Leafs.
The goaltending is better at least, right?
Mad hatter
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I don’t care who the GM or the players on the team are, I just want them to win. Why come back with pretty much the exact same team, except for a couple fourth liners and goalie swapping, after five straight years of failing made no sense to me. Changes needed to be made this last off season and Dubas did not do it for some reason so maybe he’s the needed change. Can’t be emotionally attached to players if you’re a GM, your job is to win
Philly has had a hot start but half their team is injured and they will be coming off a B2B on Weds against the Rags. We may even get their backup goalie - Felix Sandstrom?
These games that carry extra embarrassment with a loss really puts pressure on the Leafs that they aren't dealing well with right now. A loss to this team would be another nervous few days off for the heads in question.
These games that carry extra embarrassment with a loss really puts pressure on the Leafs that they aren't dealing well with right now. A loss to this team would be another nervous few days off for the heads in question.
Ianturnedbull
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Nothing has changed. Many wanted blood after the MTL series.
You're also somewhat insulting to fans. I think most of them know what a floundering team looks like.
Larcos_Unal
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Samsonov has definitely earned his salary, Murray's season started off horrifically and based on the last couple of years I do not see this improving any time soon.
Would be nice to have a veteran #3 to slot in cause Kallgren needs to play and play lots with the Marlies
ACC1224
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I don't know how any fan can watch Kallgren in net and not think that Goaltending is a problem.
It's not top of the list but it's on the list.
It's not top of the list but it's on the list.
supermann_98
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Gary Nylund
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Or, maybe it would have worked out just fine if something else had been done differently. There's just no way to know for sure that spending this much cap on 4 forwards is the culprit, not as far as I can tell anyway.
Is there any reason that spending that much cap on 4 forwards would work fine for the regular season but not in the playoffs?
PROUD PAPA
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If anyone, Simmons of all people should realize being crappy at your job doesn't necessarily mean you'll be fired.
Tufted Titmouse
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Feels like goaltending depth has been a problem since the Rask trade. We just can't seem to keep quality guys in our system.
Fogelhund
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What should we make of Maple Leafs coach Sheldon Keefe benching Mitch Marner?
If you’re a frustrated Toronto Maple Leafs fan, regardless if you’re pointing a finger at Sheldon Keefe or Mitch Marner in the wake of the club’s latest drama, you should know the tale of the Tampa Bay Lightning. Luke Fox explains.
notdoneyet
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We lost
Mikheyev
Kase
Spezza
Picked up
janrok
Nak
Zar
Offense took a big hit
Picked up Benn who is almost done
mete who couldn’t make Montreal or Ottawa
Knew muzzin was another injury away from retirement
Knew Lilly was gone for two months
Traded for a goalie who hasn’t been healthy for the last three years. You would have thought he would have learned that lesson from the Foligno and mrazek debacles. Dubas has a hard time thinking he is not The smartest in the room.
Mikheyev
Kase
Spezza
Picked up
janrok
Nak
Zar
Offense took a big hit
Picked up Benn who is almost done
mete who couldn’t make Montreal or Ottawa
Knew muzzin was another injury away from retirement
Knew Lilly was gone for two months
Traded for a goalie who hasn’t been healthy for the last three years. You would have thought he would have learned that lesson from the Foligno and mrazek debacles. Dubas has a hard time thinking he is not The smartest in the room.
HockeyVirus
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Yet other teams are in the same boat. But then we hear "Oh but they won a round" which is complete BS excuse to ignore context and continue to shit on the team. Like the Blues have lost 5 in a row on the back of terrible defense but no one is saying the team is broken and has no hope.
Yeah I was probably a bit insulting but it has been frustrating the past few weeks dealing with everyone being chicken littles after spending the entire summer saying all that matters is game 1 of the playoffs. It's especially dumb because I know by Dec 1st people will pretend this freakout never happened.
ACC1224
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Why should you expect the fans on the Leaf board to discuss or care about St Louis?
Have you even looked at the St Louis board?
Is it time for a rebuild ?
I say yes. The defense will be a sieve all year long, O’Reilly and Vova are getting long in the tooth, and Kyrou will continue to be lazy after getting a fat contract.
Official Doug Armstrong needs to go thread
It time for this thread. He has done nothing but weaken the club since 2019. He let pietrangelo walk. he let maroon go. He signed scandella to a awful contract. He is gonna end up letting perron go. He signed Krug to a contract far too long. If binner does not return to previous years form...
BayStBullies
Burn the Boats!
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Why waste another season on what we already knew at the end of the last one?
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Or they are just tired of watching this supposed juggernaut of a team shitting the bed against the league's bottom feeders by continuing to make the same mental mistakes over and over again.
Throw More Waffles
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Regular season is more like passive pond hockey than the post season. Over an 82 game schedule your skill players win you enough games to get you into the playoffs. It's less tight. Less physical. Less emphasis on defense.
Once the playoffs start, its easier to shut down star players in a grueling best of 7 series.
Columbus and Montreal took the approach to box out our star players. Due to only half our cap to spend on our other 18 players, our "depth" accomplished little.
Tampa took the approach of "our super star forwards vs your super stars forwards" And the super star battle was close. But due to how much less money their star players make (you'll blame taxes, I'll blame an incompetent rookie gm) they have an utterly elite defenseman and goalie... as well as better overall depth.
