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Maple Leafs hire Jim Hiller as head coach

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Why did the leafs do an online press conference? They are hiring a coach for the biggest hockey market in Canada. They can't fly him in for the press conference at the rink?
 
The playoff results have to improve, but he might be good.
He's good at coaching teams to play the most boring defensive style of hockey possible. Perfect match for Matthews, Nylander, McKenna and that defense of so many defensive giants...

You couldn't even dream up that the Matthews era in Toronto would end with him having back-to-back sub 1.00 PPG seasons.
 
That defensive reputation is mostly because he inherited and maintained McLellan's defensive system, which included the 1-3-1. Prior to that, in Detroit, Toronto, NYI and LA before his promotion, he worked mostly with offense and was a powerplay specialist. Also, he's not really conservative because he's willing to try new things, like utilizing 11 forwards and 7 defensemen, and 5 forwards on the powerplay. I'd say that he's more of a free-thinking, offensive guy, which is probably why the Leafs hired him. Fears that he'll run a stifling defensive system probably aren't warranted, at least when it comes to the regular season. Who knows what you'll see from him in the playoffs, though.

Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game.
 
My best guess is the Leafs are trying to get back in the playoffs as soon as next season. Hiller will have an immediate impact on the way the Leafs play the game that’s for sure. Berube was already a big change from what they had prior but this will be a full commitment to defense.

The best way for the Leafs to make the playoffs is to have a Bruins-like season where they work hard and play committed defensively. There’s no way they can run and gun anymore. There’s no way they can win on talent alone the way the roster is currently constructed. They just don’t have the roster they had 2 years ago either…

It’ll be interesting to see. Definitely at this point it doesn’t look very inspiring. It’s Toronto, this is not LA. There will be a LOT of noise around Hiller given he was somewhat a suprise hire. There will be a lot of pressure on him to improve the way the team plays compared to this year. He may very well be able to do it but people will turn on him quick if he doesn’t. It’s not an ideal situation looking at it from afar. Let’s see how it works from up close.
 
My best guess is the Leafs are trying to get back in the playoffs as soon as next season. Hiller will have an immediate impact on the way the Leafs play the game that’s for sure. Berube was already a big change from what they had prior but this will be a full commitment to defense.

The best way for the Leafs to make the playoffs is to have a Bruins-like season where they work hard and play committed defensively. There’s no way they can run and gun anymore. There’s no way they can win on talent alone the way the roster is currently constructed. They just don’t have the roster they had 2 years ago either…

It’ll be interesting to see. Definitely at this point it doesn’t look very inspiring. It’s Toronto, this is not LA. There will be a LOT of noise around Hiller given he was somewhat a suprise hire. There will be a lot of pressure on him to improve the way the team plays compared to this year. He may very well be able to do it but people will turn on him quick if he doesn’t. It’s not an ideal situation looking at it from afar. Let’s see how it works from up close.
Work hard lmao. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
My best guess is the Leafs are trying to get back in the playoffs as soon as next season. Hiller will have an immediate impact on the way the Leafs play the game that’s for sure. Berube was already a big change from what they had prior but this will be a full commitment to defense.

The best way for the Leafs to make the playoffs is to have a Bruins-like season where they work hard and play committed defensively. There’s no way they can run and gun anymore. There’s no way they can win on talent alone the way the roster is currently constructed. They just don’t have the roster they had 2 years ago either…

It’ll be interesting to see. Definitely at this point it doesn’t look very inspiring. It’s Toronto, this is not LA. There will be a LOT of noise around Hiller given he was somewhat a suprise hire. There will be a lot of pressure on him to improve the way the team plays compared to this year. He may very well be able to do it but people will turn on him quick if he doesn’t. It’s not an ideal situation looking at it from afar. Let’s see how it works from up close.
The leafs are really miscalculating their window

Given the state of their division they should be using this time as a reset and rebuild their roster not chase the 8th seed
 
Since when do players get asked to ok a coaching hire? Has that been going on before or is it new this year? McDavid, Draisaitl, Matthews, Nylander these guys are calling the shots for their teams now? I get they're ultimately more valuable to the franchise than some coach but that's just not how these power dynamics are supposed to work. How are you supposed to coach somebody that if you say the wrong thing to can walk into the GM's office the next day and tell him to jog you on.

Ridiculous. Getting to be like the NBA with the amount of power some of these stars get. Their job is to play the game, GM's job is to hire a coach, and the coach, well, should stick to the f***ing coaching. That's the way the division of labour should be and anything else is an affront to god and nature alike.
 
A lot of Montreal fans are coming in here to give their opinion on a coach they have never watched.

After the Carolina series and realizing how far they are from competing against the best teams, they need something to talk about, so I am glad you can all pretend like you know anything about Hiller. It's good to take your mind off that disastrous series.

Montreal made the Conference finals 2 years after their rebuild had ended. Leafs were eliminated in the first round for most of their ten years, and two times in second rounds. So what are you trying to say? :biglaugh:
 
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Not much better out there.... the disliked Roy, Torts, Cassidy or relatively inexperienced Woodcroft, Eakins or Pavelski whose experience as a coach is that he coached his kids team.

Chayka said he wanted a coach with experience and very likely someone who isn't hated by his players and Tavares, Matthews, Nylander have been coached by him in the past.
I would have picked Cassidy. He has an extremely short shelf life with the players, but for 2-3 seasons he could have extracted all the best from the players. As a Bruins fan, I am happy they didn‘t pick him.
 
In my opinion, the big problem with Leaf roster and staffing decisions is centering it around what Matthews and Nylander may think or their opinions. I think Matthews and Nylander are a core problem with this team for years...the attitudes, the lack of passion, the stupid immature behaviour, the quitting on the team, the lack of leadership, the lack of standing up for one another...until these guys are gone, you can keep changing the GM or coach - the result will be the same.

I do hope the Leafs draft McKenna. As much as some people may have found the response not to their liking, I happen to appreciate and respect someone who comes to the defense of their mother, and puts a blowhard in his place. If McKenna plays for the Leafs like that, he would be a worthy player around which to construct the team going forward.
 
I just don't trust management. Are they hiring Hiller to appease Matthews and Nylander? Or do they truly believe he is the best coach for the team right now? I don't like it if they are just trying to appease those 2
 
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Ahh so his entire time with the Kings was nothing more than an elaborate ruse to make people THINK he coaches the NZ trap and nothing but.

Incredible work by him then.
Its been said he coached the team he had, he didnt coach a square peg in a round hole like Berube.
 
Why did they fire him then?
Go ask the GM. I assume he'll say results.

Im not saying hes a good or bad coach. Im not saying this will work 100% but its dumb to think this cannot work 100%. There is obviously a reason why Chayka went with Hiller out of 25 other guys.

No one knows whats going to happen until we start playing games.
 
The best way for the Leafs to make the playoffs is to have a Bruins-like season where they work hard and play committed defensively.

Their entire leadership group refuses to play this way and will quit on a coach within a season when asked to like they did with Berube. :laugh:
 
Who are the great options that desperately want to coach in Toronto at this point?

The Leafs have a culture of choking, of players complaining like little bitches and bickering all the way to during games on the bench. Their stars also shamelessly demand to be overpaid, which directly affects competitiveness. The media is overbearing. Fan patience is (understandably) at an all-time low.

At this point,I think the hottest coach options are probably not interested in joining this tire fire. Jim Hiller, under the circumstances, is probably not a bad option. I didn't even expect the Kings to make the playoffs those two seasons.
 
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Who are the great options that desperately want to coach in Toronto at this point?

The Leafs have a culture of choking, of players complaining like little bitches and bickering all the way to during games on the bench. Their stars also shamelessly demand to be overpaid, which directly affects competitiveness. The media is overbearing. Fan patience is (understandably) at an all-time low.

At this point,I think the hottest coach options are probably not interested in joining this tire fire. Jim Hiller, under the circumstances, is probably not a bad option. I didn't even expect the Kings to make the playoffs those two seasons.
Hilarious.

The only "hot coach option" available right now was Bruce Cassidy... who openly stated his desire to interview for the Leafs head cosch position.

You could argue Carle, I guess? But he's denied numerous teams and seems to be keen on staying in his current position (seemingly the only way that would change is if Colorado, specifically, was hiring).


Beyond the fact that the Leafs will always have a good amount of pull due to being a big market O6 team, you are vastly overlooking the fact that only 3 NHL teams had head coaching vacancies when the Leafs hired Hiller. Of those 3, Vegas and Edmonton seemingly had their candidates already lined up.

You seriously think any "hot coaching options" would prefer no head coaching gig over the Toronto Maple Leafs head coach? Ludicrous.

Even during Montreals recent dark years, I would never make that claim for the same reasons.
 

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