Proposal: Maple Leaf's 1st rd (2025) , Dallas 2nd rder(2025) Blackhawk's 2nd rder (2025) and either Wyatt Kaiser or Landon Slaggart for Buffalo's 1st rder (2025

[dj Mahoney]

Is this a fair price to pay?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Given Buffalo is likely to be slotted #3 or 4 OA before the lottery... no. We have basically the same pick in Nashville and there is no way in hell I'd trade that pick for this lesser "quantity" bundle.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Buffalo says no

 

[Captain97]

No way to the Sabres do this top 5 picks are super valuable

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

This isn't GM mode on EA. 4 twos doesn't get you an eight.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The last time a Top 5 pick was knowingly moved: 2008.

 

[Djp]

Is this a fair price to pay?

A late 1st (25-32) , an early 2nd, and a late 2nd+ some random prospect they have no use for......and you think you get a pick roughly #4OA-#6OA???

What are you smoking?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Serious question: Why do you think at this point 15 years into their rebuild Buffalo needs a bunch of quantity pieces? Only way they are moving that pick is if there is a hockey deal out there for a top 4 RD or top 6 center with term IMO

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So, a late 1st, late 2nd, early 2nd and the choice of a shitty prospect.

No idea why Buffalo fans aren't in here screaming hell yeah, brother.

 

[Djp]

So, a late 1st, late 2nd, early 1st and the choice of a shitty prospect.

No idea why Buffalo fans aren't in here screaming hell yeah, brother.

I did

 

[ThePlanet]

 

[BleedBlue14]

The fabled stack 4 dimes for a half dollar proposal that every team's fans expect them to be able to do to other teams, but don't want to do it themselves.

 

[Ajex12x]

Yikes

 

[CallMeShaft]

Buffalo hangs up immediately, flies to Chicago, and proceeds to beat Kyle Davidson half to death with said phone.

 

[kilowatt]

Epic trade bro

 

[josra33]

“And I want David Goddamn Putney because I feel like it”

 

[Brodeur]

As others said, it doesn't seem likely that a team picking around #5 would be willing to drop down 20 spots. Sometimes I think it's easy to conflate the NFL draft with the NHL draft but it's a different beast.

Teams trading down typically have somebody in mind and have the mentality that they're still getting the player they were going to take originally anyways. So this is usually why you only see teams trade down a handful of spots. Teams don't want to risk trading back too far and getting sniped. Anaheim traded down from #12 to #17 in 2008 allegedly thinking they could still get Erik Karlsson, but then Ottawa traded up from #18 to #15.

It took a series of trades, but the Islanders turned #26, #37, #56, and #181 into #12 at the 2009 Draft. That's the same ballpark as TOR1, CHI2, DAL2. Not sure Slaggert or Kaiser moves the needle for Buffalo.

That said, you'd have to find a team motivated to trade down which isn't a given every year. Last year Buffalo moved #11 for #14 and #42 before the draft started. On Day 2, they moved their own 2nd (#43) for Beck Malenstyn.

Tampa made a curious move on draft day 2002 when Jay Feaster dealt the #4 pick for Ruslan Fedotenko and two 2nd rounders. One of the 2nds was dealt for Brad Lukowich. Value wise that one always felt questionable but Feaster got his name on the Cup.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Yeah, this won't happen

 

[Djp]

As others said, it doesn't seem likely that a team picking around #5 would be willing to drop down 20 spots. Sometimes I think it's easy to conflate the NFL draft with the NHL draft but it's a different beast.

Agreed. Therr is such a big difference between 4-_6 and 24-26.

Teams trading down typically have somebody in mind and have the mentality that they're still getting the player they were going to take originally anyways. So this is usually why you only see teams trade down a handful of spots.

I agree at the draft. They kn a w they should be ab li e yo get tjr same player(s)

Teams don't want to risk trading back too far and getting sniped. Anaheim traded down from #12 to #17 in 2008 allegedly thinking they could still get Erik Karlsson, but then Ottawa traded up from #18 to #15.

Last yr sabres traded down before the draft with SJ a few spots and got a high 2nd. They want ed d the 3nd as a trade chip for NHL roster players

Back in 2012 draft just before BUF traded a pick at 21 and a low 40s pick for CGY #14. C as Gary fidnt have a 2nd as nd wanted one and they didnt ser a big drop between 14 and 221.

It took a series of trades, but the Islanders turned #26, #37, #56, and #181 into #12 at the 2009 Draft. That's the same ballpark as TOR1, CHI2, DAL2. Not sure Slaggert or Kaiser moves the needle for Buffalo.

Buffalo has s deep prospect pool in the AHL and fors not need more nhl roster players unless it fills a need.

It also depends on the dtaft yr and what yhrrr.

Wiyh buffalo in 3014 draft tim Murray has 3 2nd toned picks and a 3rd round pick ( 31-61 which would be a late 1st and 3 3nds, todsy) and tried to trade up to 16-19 ,,but no takers

say the 3 picks were 28+33+57...the 28 and 57 could get you to 20 and the 20 and 33 could get you to 12-13 but it depends greatly on the draft depth. from 12 to 5-6 is a huge price

That said, you'd have to find a team motivated to trade down which isn't a given every year. Last year Buffalo moved #11 for #14 and #42 before the draft started. On Day 2, they moved their own 2nd (#43) for Beck Malenstyn.

Buffalo moved down to get a 2nd for a possible trade. This was done a week or so before the draft.

Tampa made a curious move on draft day 2002 when Jay Feaster dealt the #4 pick for Ruslan Fedotenko and two 2nd rounders. One of the 2nds was dealt for Brad Lukowich. Value wise that one always felt questionable but Feaster got his name on the Cup.

In hockey trade lore there have been some odd trades that make no sense. You had the trades made so vancouver could dtaft the Sedins

 

[DJN21]

are the guys we choose from at the end linesmen or lawyers or janitors? What kind of not NHL caliber guy am I choosing from?

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I imagine that if Buffalo is trading this pick, they'd probably be trying to acquire someone who would help them end their playoff drought?

 

[Chainshot]

 

[go4hockey]

That is a trash offer for what is likely to be a top 5 pick. Especially with how weak the 25 drafts is those late 1st don’t hold the normal value.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

are the guys we choose from at the end linesmen or lawyers or janitors? What kind of not NHL caliber guy am I choosing from?

I mean Kaiser is a 22 yr old LD who has been solid for Hawks and looks every bit the part of an NHL 4-6 going forward

This year

47 GP
4 G
3 A
7 pts
-2
18:01 TOI

Problem for Hawks (A good problem to have) is our D is fully jammed when it comes to kids

- 23 yr old LD Alex Vlasic (Established NHL top 4)
- 23 yr old RD Louis Crevier (Showing NHL quality play this year trying to establish himself)
- 22 yr old LD Ethan Del Mastro (AHL all-star last year, Looks good in NHL this year)
- 21 yr old LD Nolan Allan (Looked good first half of year, Coaching change saw him playing less and is back in AHL)
- 20 yr old LD Kevin Korchinski (Looked improved in brief callup this year, AHL all-star this year)
- 19 yr old RD Arytom Levshunov (Looks promising, seems lock to be on NHL roster to start next year)

Possibly in que

- 24 yr old RD Victor Soderstrom (Hawks acquired his rights and speculation is he will come back to NA)

- Taige Harding and Sam Rinzel are in NCAA potentially to be signed by Hawks (Harding rights expire in August)

Add in very real possibility Hawks could be drafting #1 and may end up drafting LD Matthew Schaefer (The most likely #1 pick in this draft and appears to be BPA)

Someone from Hawks D group (Kaiser and Allan seem most likely) will be trade chip for forward help

Slaggert is just an energy 3rd/4th liner at best type who could have potential to be 20-30 pt guy down line. Nothing amazing but someone most likely to stick around NHL for longtime

 

[Coffee]

Damn she blocked my number