Management Thread | Regular Season Edition

F A N

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It was more about his dedication to hockey, than anything else. He took hockey more seriously once drafted.

And when I mean underscouted, I mean just by the Canucks. Historically, they have not valued the BCHL, and until the new regime have shied away from the WHL (Thanks, Delorme)

I believe his skating was considered a big issue. It was likely due in part to a lack of hockey-focused training because of the baseball stuff, and in part to him having grown like 6" in a couple years leading up to his draft, but it was a significant concern.

I think this is a good related article:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/anatomy-nhl-draft-steal
 

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God

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A couple of reasons. The BCHL is under scouted in general. Scouts also questioned if Benn wanted to play hockey or baseball.
yeah just to follow up on this, i used to volunteer with a guy who played baseball with jamie benn and he told me he didn't even know benn played hockey - that's how dedicated benn was to baseball
 
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hotshot1

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Kobe and Shaq in the NBA is the big one

NHL players are just more reserved and less outspoken so there's probably some we'll never learn about.

Kobe and Shaq both had dominant personalities though, more akin to Miller who thrives under challenge. Petey strikes me as more of someone who thrives under encouragement.

And yeah I guess NHL drama is just less out there in the media compared to the NBA.

The more I understand this situation the more I think it won't work out, which is a shame because IMO with the both of them playing well and with 1 or 2 better d-men they're a cup contender. I've listened to Sakic talk about Forsberg and Jagr talk about Lemieux and Hull talk about Datsyuk and on and on. Sure they're all time great players but they talk glowingly about their teammates. I really do think you have to put your ego aside to get by-in as a group to win a cup. I'm just talking out of my ass though, because we don't have a good sense of what's really going on in the room. It's fun to speculate though.
 
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TruGr1t

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Do you guys know any star level players who hated each other but won a cup or multiple together?

This is way, way less common in the NHL, but happens in the NBA and NFL more.

Digging back in my memory banks I seem to recall a few Patrick Roy rumours on the Habs with some other high-profile guys, and I think there was something about the ‘94 Rangers room.

I also remember reading something about Gretzky and (maybe) Robitaille back in the day, but can’t remember where. And there were some guys that were just straight up not liked by most teammates: Avery, Hasek, Ribero.

Can’t recall anything quite like the stuff going on in Vancouver right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens, but doesn’t usually leave the room and is handled internally.
 

Ernie

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I'm starting to sour on this management group. They way they do business is kinda toxic.

It's almost Trumpian how Allvin ramped up the Pettersson vs Miller thing when that's just a sideshow to their absolute failure to construct an NHL level defensive group.

You almost wonder if they've been doing this behind the scenes for a while. It directly undercuts how Tocchet and the players have been trying to tamp this down. Meanwhile Tocchet is on the last year of his deal and Allvin certainly didn't give him a vote of confidence either.

Looks like it's going to be a bumpy road ahead. Maybe it's time for the Sedins to step into the president role and promote Castonguay to GM.

I think most of Nathan Mackinnon's teammates hate him.

Is he a lazy AF and acts out when things don't go his way? By all accounts he walks the talk in all aspects of his career.
 

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