Management Thread | Regular Season Edition

mriswith

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There's plenty of fodder to criticize this group for. No one's doing it because what's the point.
A. This group is displaying basic competency which is an exhilarating breath of fresh air
B. No one interested in making the arguments and, no matter how accurate, dealing with the fallout of it when we're having a great season and are playoff bound
C. The roster is mostly locked in at contracts that are at least decent value, and there's only one possible strategic direction for the team at this point. There's way less to talk about now compared to back when almost the entire roster needed replacing and we were years away from fixing Benning's mess.
 

StreetHawk

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An underappreciated ability in a management is being able to consistently supply effective bottom 5 forwards and bottom 3 dmen and so far they are doing a good job

THis also allows you to use draft picks to supplement where it matters most.. top end of the lineup

When you dont have to worry about your foot soldiers you get so much more flexibility
They've had to move out draft capital to dump players like Dickinson, Poolman, Mik (their own signing), while also moving picks to add to the roster.

Will need to hit on the draft picks that they have kept/used. As there isn't much from the draft after the Hughes pick in 2018, aside from Hoglander up through to the 2021 draft.
 

andora

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They've had to move out draft capital to dump players like Dickinson, Poolman, Mik (their own signing), while also moving picks to add to the roster.

Will need to hit on the draft picks that they have kept/used. As there isn't much from the draft after the Hughes pick in 2018, aside from Hoglander up through to the 2021 draft.
Ok...

They can hit on drafting, NCAA free agents, regular unrestricted free agents, or trades I don't really care but if you can produce your own foot soldiers worth its weight in gold
 

EpochLink

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It's nice to finally have some optimism about the future of the team. It was horrible cheering for losses in hopes of a better draft pick, then cheering for losses in hopes of Dim Jim being fired, to finally just not cheering at all. The Canucks are fun again, because winning is fun!

Meanwhile, Jim Benning is stuck somewhere in the Witness Protection Program.
 
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Spectrefire

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They've had to move out draft capital to dump players like Dickinson, Poolman, Mik (their own signing), while also moving picks to add to the roster.

Will need to hit on the draft picks that they have kept/used. As there isn't much from the draft after the Hughes pick in 2018, aside from Hoglander up through to the 2021 draft.
Looking at the 2020, 2021 draft... it's still absolutely how much Benning absolutely wasted despite how bad the team was those two years.

Literally two entire draft classes where we're going to have nothing to show for it. 2021 is absolutely disgusting. We could've walked away from that draft with Guenther and Stankoven, but nope, we just get OEL's caphit for the rest of eternity and Danilla f***ing Klimovich.

To Allvin's credit, he's done a fantastic job of restocking the cupboards inspite of the mess Benning left behind. If you look back at 2022, the Canucks added a ton of good prospects that year under Allvin.

The 2022 ended up being really good for us despite having just 6 picks. Lekkerimaki, Petterson, and Kudryavtsev were all big wins and all of three of them will see NHL ice time. Aman and Bains were also added as free agent prospects.

2023 was also fantastic draft for us with Willander, Brzustewicz, Mynio, and Alriksson. The latter three being fantastic value for where they were picked. On top of that, we added Hirose, McWard, Sasson and Tolopila in free agency, with McWard and Sasson looking like they'll play NHL games sooner than later.
 

StreetHawk

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Looking at the 2020, 2021 draft... it's still absolutely how much Benning absolutely wasted despite how bad the team was those two years.

Literally two entire draft classes where we're going to have nothing to show for it. 2021 is absolutely disgusting. We could've walked away from that draft with Guenther and Stankoven, but nope, we just get OEL's caphit for the rest of eternity and Danilla f***ing Klimovich.

To Allvin's credit, he's done a fantastic job of restocking the cupboards inspite of the mess Benning left behind. If you look back at 2022, the Canucks added a ton of good prospects that year under Allvin.

The 2022 ended up being really good for us despite having just 6 picks. Lekkerimaki, Petterson, and Kudryavtsev were all big wins and all of three of them will see NHL ice time. Aman and Bains were also added as free agent prospects.

2023 was also fantastic draft for us with Willander, Brzustewicz, Mynio, and Alriksson. The latter three being fantastic value for where they were picked. On top of that, we added Hirose, McWard, Sasson and Tolopila in free agency, with McWard and Sasson looking like they'll play NHL games sooner than later.
Until the Allvin picks play they are still just prospects and hope. But they are at most 21. So just have to wait. But limited number of them so the ones he’s drafted need to hit.

2020 at least is miller for the first. Rental for TT
 

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Looking at the 2020, 2021 draft... it's still absolutely how much Benning absolutely wasted despite how bad the team was those two years.

Literally two entire draft classes where we're going to have nothing to show for it. 2021 is absolutely disgusting. We could've walked away from that draft with Guenther and Stankoven, but nope, we just get OEL's caphit for the rest of eternity and Danilla f***ing Klimovich.

2020 was the pick we gave up for Miller and 2021 got us Garland. It’s easy to simply look back and choose the BPA but there’s no guarantee that the Canucks would have drafted that player.

In 2021, the Canucks likely would have drafted Sillinger. But let’s say the Canucks managed to draft fan favourite Kent Johnson - still no guarantee that we would have walked away with a player better than Garland.

I would say that the current regime seems to be better at drafting defensemen than the previous but again there are no guarantees and it’s too early. Look at the Penguins’ drafting under Rutherford (with Allvin playing a significant role in the draft). In the same time period as Benning, the Penguins’ best drafted player today might be Sprong.
 

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