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Management really bungled this season. The Pettersson deal is kind of emblematic of it to me.

Why did they wait until game 50 or whatever to make it? Everyone knew they needed to add another top-four defenseman. PIT has been signalling they're in sell mode the entire year. Marcus Pettersson is a JR guy. It was inevitable he was going to land in Vancouver. What took so long? They could have flipped their own 1st for him at any time (and I would have much preferred they traded their own 1st in this deal than the Rangers' - I will laugh when they've gifted McKenna to the Pens).

If they acquire Pettersson earlier, maybe the team has a better record and the bad vibes from Petey/Miller are mitigated, so they aren't forced into a trade either.

This season is on management.
 
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bossram said:
Management really bungled this season. The Pettersson deal is kind of emblematic of it to me.

Why did they wait until game 50 or whatever to make it? Everyone knew they needed to add another top-four defenseman. PIT has been signalling they're in sell mode the entire year. Marcus Pettersson is a JR guy. It was inevitable he was going to land in Vancouver. What took so long? They could have flipped their own 1st for him at any time (and I would have much preferred they traded their own 1st in this deal than the Rangers' - I will laugh when they've gifted McKenna to the Pens).

If they acquire Pettersson earlier, maybe the team has a better record and the bad vibes from Petey/Miller are mitigated, so they aren't forced into a trade either.

This season is on management.
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Do we know if Pittsburgh would have traded MP at the beginning of the year for our 1st? If so, yeah, I'd agree, just not sure that deal was on the table.
 
Every one calmed down?

Garbage trades.


Sorry, but trading J T MILLER & a 1st that does not get you a legit # 2 C or a play driver # 3D with minimal defensive problems is a huge problem moving forward.

I think we made the wrong trade here.

As a pure hockey trade, we should have shipped Pettersson to Buffalo and fleeced them for everything they got.


The only thing that could make this worse is we give Pettersson a 6x5 contract like Myers.


Ohhhhhhhh how history repeats itself.
 
Jack Burton said:
Every one calmed down?

Garbage trades.


Sorry, but trading J T MILLER & a 1st that does not get you a legit # 2 C or a play driver # 3D with minimal defensive problems is a huge problem moving forward.

I think we made the wrong trade here.

As a pure hockey trade, we should have shipped Pettersson to Buffalo and fleeced them for everything they got.


The only thing that could make this worse is we give Pettersson a 6x5 contract like Myers.


Ohhhhhhhh how history repeats itself.
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We didn't trade Miller and a 1st. We traded Miller and received Chytil, Pettersson, and O'Connor. We now have gained a #3 d man, a 2-3c, and a bottom-6 energy guy.

There's no guarantee that we'd be able to "fleece" Buffalo in a Pettersson trade, and trading Pettersson to Buffalo right before his NMC kicks in will likely damage our relation with the agent (The same agent who represents Hughes).

Also, Pettersson absolutely deserves a contract in that range given his play.
 
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ephmrl said:
We didn't trade Miller and a 1st. We traded Miller and received Chytil, Pettersson, and O'Connor. We now have gained a #3 d man, a 2-3c, and a bottom-6 energy guy.

There's no guarantee that we'd be able to "fleece" Buffalo in a Pettersson trade, and trading Pettersson to Buffalo right before his NMC kicks in will likely damage our relation with the agent (The same agent who represents Hughes).

Also, Pettersson absolutely deserves a contract in that range given his play.
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And you keep telling yourself that.

You know what? Their are no guarantees.

Life is truly like a box of chocolates









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MarkMM said:
Do we know if Pittsburgh would have traded MP at the beginning of the year for our 1st? If so, yeah, I'd agree, just not sure that deal was on the table.
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I think around November when the Penguins traded Eller for picks is when the Penguins were open for business in selling off pending UFAs.
 
MarkMM said:
Do we know if Pittsburgh would have traded MP at the beginning of the year for our 1st? If so, yeah, I'd agree, just not sure that deal was on the table.
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PIT's been in sell mode since they fell into a black hole from the start of the season. Dubas has been pretty clear about getting younger and future-oriented assets.

I am reasonably confident Allvin/JR could have acquired Pettersson a lot sooner with VAN's own first round pick.
 
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Jack Burton said:
Anyone watch the Allvin press conference?


That was a bit weird was it not?

I’m thinking this gig might just be a little too much for him.
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I fast forwarded but I thought he was fine. The ability to speak to/charm/deal with the media is really only a small part of the job and quite frankly irrelevant. Plus if you have a POHO who likes to talk to the media the ability to talk to the media and answer questions is even less important.
 
Jack Burton said:
Anyone watch the Allvin press conference?


That was a bit weird was it not?

I’m thinking this gig might just be a little too much for him.
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Dude, are you pretending that Miller was not the problem or are you just drunk? Dude was unbearable and worn his wellcome long time ago. We got a shitty return for a reason. In hindsight, we should have kept Bo and traded Miller. We would have been in a better place right now with no 2 years of behind the scenes drama.

Buffalo was never going to trade value for a struggling Petterson. Cozens and Power are not better than a struggling Pete let alone a normal Pete.

While your drunken rants were funny during Jimbo's era you are becoming annoying. Skinny is here to stay and you'll have to deal with it.
 
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ExarKun80 said:
Dude, are you pretending that Miller was not the problem or are you just drunk? Dude was unbearable and worn his wellcome long time ago. We got a shitty return for a reason. In hindsight, we should have kept Bo and traded Miller. We would have been in a better place right now with no 2 years of behind the scenes drama.

Buffalo was never going to trade value for a struggling Petterson. Cozens and Power are not better than a struggling Pete let alone a normal Pete.

While your drunken rants were funny during Jimbo's era you are becoming annoying. Skinny is here to stay and you'll have to deal with it.
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Account made in 2023 and talking about Benning like your an expert

Get a grip, go back to lurking if you’re going to be a dickhead
 
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Hyzer said:
Account made in 2023 and talking about Benning like your an expert

Get a grip, go back to lurking if you’re going to be a dickhead
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I had account older than yours but I was banned due to calling out the Benning stans years before he was fired. We had some Benning friendly mods that tolerated POM baiting people for years and banned anyone who called him out on his shilling.
You are doing the same thing now but instead of Jimbo you guys support a cancer like Miller over our drafted and developed player.
 
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ExarKun80 said:
I had account older than yours but I was banned due to calling out the Benning stans years before he was fired. We had some Benning friendly mods that tolerated POM baiting people for years and banned anyone who called him out on his shilling.
You are doing the same thing now but instead of Jimbo you guys support a cancer like Miller over our drafted and developed player.
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I still have faith in EP40

But I think you are taking your criticism of Miller bois way too far.
 
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You are right but they remind me a lot of the Jimbo boys.
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I’m not even a Miller fan. Both Petey and Miller are both children who nuked this f***ing franchise because they’re dumb and selfish. Petey wants to be on a winner and cant even come to camp in shape. Miller cant control himself. Both are in the wrong. Thats my take

You still need to get a grip though
 
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Hyzer said:
I’m not even a Miller fan. Both Petey and Miller are both children who nuked this f***ing franchise because they’re dumb and selfish. Petey wants to be on a winner and cant even come to camp in shape. Miller cant control himself. Both are in the wrong. Thats my take

You still need to get a grip though
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You dont know that.

You just know:
- Miller had issues with Lundqvist & Horvat
- Rumoured that Demko & Hughes were tired of his act
- Miller had to take a unprecedented personal leave
- The management have tried to trade him for 3 seasons and finally succeeded

I'm guessing here. About EP you know:
- His body language irritates you
- His interviews irritate you
- His playe has been poor
- His skating is not there since the start of last season
 
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PuckMunchkin said:
You dont know that.

You just know:
- Miller had issues with Lundqvist & Horvat
- Rumoured that Demko & Hughes were tired of his act
- Miller had to take a unprecedented personal leave
- The management have tried to trade him for 3 seasons and finally succeeded

I'm guessing here. About EP you know:
- His body language irritates you
- His interviews irritate you
- His playe has been poor
- His skating is not there since the start of last season
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I expect a top 5 paid player in the league to produce like one, and that other player to be a good teammate and neither of these are or were true. They both didnt do that. They both are in the wrong.

Why is holding a player to standards of his contract bad? Illuminate me, please. If our star player who’s paid like a star doesnt produce like one, then this team is cooked regardless of some emotional teammate
 
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Hyzer said:
I expect a top 5 paid player in the league to produce like one, and that other player to be a good teammate and neither of these are or were true. They both didnt do that. They both are in the wrong.

Why is holding a player to standards of his contract bad? Illuminate me, please. If our star player who’s paid like a star doesnt produce like one, then this team is cooked regardless of some emotional teammate
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Ok.

f*** Demko. He didnt even play to start the year. Is it too much to expect a player to play when he is paid millions to do so.
 
PuckMunchkin said:
Ok.

f*** Demko. He didnt even play to start the year. Is it too much to expect a player to play when he is paid millions to do so.
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Haha come on brother, you know thats a hilariously different situation. Shows what kind of perspective you’re coming from though, bring so polarized and all.

Cheers mate
 
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