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I’d argue the Toffoli/Tanev/Markstrom rendition could have been worked around in some way to possibly build something more, but that all blew up in a single off-season.

Even if you’d avoided the OEL trade you might have been able to pull off some sort of long-shot turnaround.
 
I’d argue the Toffoli/Tanev/Markstrom rendition could have been worked around in some way to possibly build something more, but that all blew up in a single off-season.

Even if you’d avoided the OEL trade you might have been able to pull off some sort of long-shot turnaround.
Had we started this season with Miller and Bo unsigned for 23/24 and beyond, Boeser deleted one way or another, Myers and Pearson could still be here, but the OEL trade never happened and we had the $12,000,000 death triangle removed from the books- there is a lot that could have been done with this group. The OEL trade really fluffed us hard.
 
I wanted Jeff Gorton so bad.
NHL head office recommended him to Montreal apparently. They also recommended Rutherford to Francesco. Our clown owner listened to them.
Management is terrified to make a move.
They're probably getting a lot of lowball shit offers, but at some point you do have to "lose" some trades in order to gain flexibility and freedom to make better ones down the line. Continuing with this team intact is a loss anyway.
 
7th worst team in the league based on points percentage, 31 games into the season on a team that pushed additional assets in to win this year.

At this point, pretty hard to envision a scenario where next year's team will be better on paper than this one with the expiring contracts coming up.

Shameful how this roster was built for this season and how vigorously people defended this team build.

Deadline: Trade Horvat.
Offseason: Spend all of Horvat's cap space on Kuzmenko

2023-24 team = 2022-23 team minus Horvat
 
My question is what are they waiting for? They want to wait until the Canucks are mathematically eliminated? They think the current status quo is adequate?

This management has communicated so very little about what their plan is. It’s a new level of frustration.
 
Spouting absolute nonsense during the intermission of paying Horvat slightly higher than Hintz and giving Pettersson his new deal.

And have the core of Hughes, Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Demko.

Insanely expensive core.
Hey, at least it's a core thats road tested and are proven winners. You need to pay the best players in the league.
 
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Poolman is out for the season right? So when Dermott is back from his conditioning stint, the only injuries we have left to players due to return are Demko and Pearson?

Delia obviously gets sent down for Demko and then another skater has to go for Pearson to get to a 23 man roster. Hopefully it's Stillman and we roll with 14 forwards and 7 defencemen, but I'm guessing they just return Pederson.
 
Had we started this season with Miller and Bo unsigned for 23/24 and beyond, Boeser deleted one way or another, Myers and Pearson could still be here, but the OEL trade never happened and we had the $12,000,000 death triangle removed from the books- there is a lot that could have been done with this group. The OEL trade really fluffed us hard.
Jimbo's parting gift. What an incompetent buffoon that guys was.

How after sitting through multiple interviews with Jim Benning, does one give him the reigns to your $750M professional sports franchise when it's so blatantly obvious that he can't even string coherent sentences together.

It's absolutely mind boggling.
 
Jimbo's parting gift. What an incompetent buffoon that guys was.

How after sitting through multiple interviews with Jim Benning, does one give him the reigns to your $750M professional sports franchise when it's so blatantly obvious that he can't even string coherent sentences together.

It's absolutely mind boggling.
It sure doesn’t say much for Aquilini’s hiring acumen.
 
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I think it should be clear, that if they're going to make moves to develop and bring in the next group of new young players, then you trade your players that have value, and keep your big contract, underperforming albatrosses as there's no need to get rid of them.
OEL, Pearson (character guy Stillman?) et al, are the veteran guys who set the standard on how to prepare and play in the league. Their diminishing skillset becomes less important.
Horvat, Miller, Garland, Boeser and Kuzmenko (if he's not interested in staying with your core of Hughes and Pettersson) are traded. Demko goes if you've got any reservations about his health, and frankly, if Pettersson isn't happy with the direction, then you look at moving him and Hughes as well.
This is done in a stepped approach where you're always bringing back value and with the caps space, you utilize that to create more value in taking on contracts the better teams need to get rid of.
Use the post contract signing rush to select the guys that are hungry to prove something and let them prove their value and trade them.
Your team looks completely different after three years and you've watched a team being built from the ground up.

Mind you, this owner seems confident he knows best, so we're more likely to go the building your winning team through expensive UFA signings and trading picks for "names" who are ready to hit their paydays.

Anyway, this is nothing ground breaking as posters have been sharing these ideas for years here.
 
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NHL head office recommended him to Montreal apparently. They also recommended Rutherford to Francesco. Our clown owner listened to them.

They're probably getting a lot of lowball shit offers, but at some point you do have to "lose" some trades in order to gain flexibility and freedom to make better ones down the line. Continuing with this team intact is a loss anyway.

Where did you hear this?
 
Why would the NHL head office care who Vancouver or Montreal brought in? Are they helping Rutherford/Gorton or Vancouver/Montreal?
No clue but all I know is that I hate Bettman for suggesting the much better guy for the Habs
 
Why would the NHL head office care who Vancouver or Montreal brought in? Are they helping Rutherford/Gorton or Vancouver/Montreal?

I swear it was reported the other year that the NHL head office was suggesting Peter Chiarelli's name to teams. it's insane that this is a thing but it does seem to happen
 
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It’s funny but I bet they are going off the Colorado retool where they didn’t completely rebuild after regressing. Colorado had one of the best executives in the game and got very lucky with some very good trades like Duchene. They basically traded O’Reiley and Duchene out of their core and took a back step and drafted pretty high until their younger players took a step and picks matured.

They took Makar and Byram with their two highest picks (top 5) and bought low on some other players like Kadri, Toews, Nichushkin.
 
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