MacKinnon has 150 points in his last 82 games

[Video Nasty]

-In 2010/11 he was on pace for 132 points before getting injured 41 games into the season
-In 2011/12 he was on pace for 138 points before getting injured 22 games into the season
-in 2012/13 he was on pace for 127 points before getting injured 36 games into the season and still won the Pearson

Time to debunk the myth that relies on misinformation again.

1. He was on pace for 134 points in 79 games in 2006-2007 through 59 team games and finished with 120. Pace doesn’t mean shit.

2. He wasn’t injured after 22 games. He was held out the first 20, had 12 points in 8 games, then got injured again, and came back after three months.

3. It was a 48 game season. He was “on pace” for 75 points.

As sad as it is, as much as we try, we can’t play pretend and project out three 130 point campaigns. Especially not when he lost clean during the period leading up to it, and never won a scoring race again after beating out injured weak top competition in 2013-2014.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

i think the quality of his teammates is much lower because the oilers front office has saddled the team with bad contracts and poor drafting/development.

The quality of on-ice teammates for McDavid are better than Crosby has had.

 

[Regal]

This is interesting too. Gretzky was robbed that year (1980), not from Art Ross as the tiebreaker rule is the rule....though his season was more impressive in my mind than Dionne's simply due to age. He was absolutely robbed of the Calder by a stupid, stupid rule. Gretzky, starting the year as an 18 year old, isn't eligible for rookie of the year because he played as a 17 year old in the WHL.....meanwhile you have Forsberg, Selanne, Alfredsson, Panarin and Makarov winning when starting at the ages of 21, 22, 23, 24 and 31 respectively after playing years of pro hockey in Europe.

Anyway, the real interesting thing as well: have a look at NHL.com stats for these years:

1979/80:

1. Gretzky - 79gp, 51g, 137pts
2. Dionne - 81gp, 53g, 137pts

1994/95:

1. Lindros - 46gp, 29g, 70pts
2. Jagr - 48gp, 32g, 70pts

2009/10:

1. Sedin - 82gp, 29g, 112pts
2. Ovechkin - 72gp, 50g, 109pts
3. Crosby - 81gp, 51g, 109pts

So, NHL.com shows Gretzky and Lindros as #1 in points and Ovechkin as #2, ahead of Crosby at #3..all because of games played as being lower for them, but in each case, Dionne, Jagr and Crosby scored more goals.....so they would win the Art Ross due to tiebreaker (for Crosby if Sedin didn't exist)....why does NHL.com show it this way? I get showing it that way during the season, but by the end you should show it the way it would appear based on tie-breaker rules.

Nothing should be inferred from the NHL.com stats page really. It’s just how the coders have sorted the data set. If you search for a year or set of years, you’ll see that it sorts by both GP and points initially, which is why both columns are highlighted in blue. If you then sort by a different way, such as assists, then click back to points, only the points column will be highlighted, and the tie breaker will no longer be games played. If you do this for 94-95, Lindros comes up initially, then Jagr moves to number 1 after clicking on assists then back to points. The same thing happens in 79-80. Weirdly, if you do it once, it won’t reload the games played filter unless you go back to the stats page through the home link.

Here’s a couple screen shots to show what I’m talking about:

It’s possible the data is set up so that when you sort by points the Art Ross winner automatically comes up, but other than that I can’t figure out what they’re using to sort it. So if you go down the list on 94-95 you can see that Fedorov, Hull, Nieuwendyk and Forsberg all tied with 50 points. But their seasons aren’t sorted by games played, goals, or even alphabetically.

Long story short, I wouldn’t put any stock into what NHL.com does in terms of determining how to sort seasons.

 

[The Panther]

[Crosby] lead the league in PPG for 5 seasons in a row...

No... no, he didn't.

Crosby led the NHL in PPG in:
-- 2006-07
-- 2012-13 (albeit he played only 36 games out of 48)
-- 2013-14
-- 2014-15

In 2010-11, Crosby played only 50% of the games, so there's no way this can be counted as leading the NHL in anything. Of course, you give a Crosby-level player the benefit of the doubt in that he certainly would have put up a large number of points in that season, but there's certainly no guarantees about leading in anything.

Needless to say, leading in PPG four times (or three, if you don't want to count a 36-game season) is hugely impressive and speaks for itself. On the other hand, it's not like he has lapped the field in any full season:

2006-07: 1.52 PPG to 1.39 (2nd) -- with five players at 1.30+ this season
2013-14: 1.30 PPG to (teammate's) 1.20 (2nd)
2014-15: 1.09 PPG to 1.08 (2nd) -- he's negligibly above two probable non-Hall of Famers (Seguin and Benn)

I guess 2006-07 is the most statistically impressive of these (much of this due to PP points). 2014 is also impressive. 2015 not so much in legendary player terms.

And yes, I know that Crosby did lap the field in PPG in 2012-13 (1.56 PPG to 1.25), but, again, that's in 36 games played out of 48. That's a very short season to make a conclusive argument for anyone, let alone one who played less than half a season's worth of games.

Anyway, point being: Crosby certainly never led the NHL in PPG for five years in a row. (Where are you getting this info from...?)