LW Taylor Hall (2010, 1st overall, EDM)

[Stamvarhall*]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTb-HRAwe8&feature=related

Very nice rush and goal at 1:19




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBXnKBOLZc&feature=related

Another nice wrist shot goal from Seguin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSS8FMswc6Y&NR=1


nice give and go for the tip in hattrick.

 

[Tavaresmagicalplay*]

I really hope they do pick Taylor Hall 1st overall if they get the chance. There's no way in hell I wanna see Tyler Seguin in the Western Conference for the next 10 years playing against the Canucks. Saying that I really do believe Seguin is a superior player to Hall and think his skills/intangibles will translate better to the NHL style game rather than Hall's.

Good for you.

 

[Big Dogge*]

Good for you.

It's a lose/lose for the Oilers. If we pick Hall, the better player will be Seguin. If we pick Seguin, the better player will be Hall.

Thankfully, armchair scouts don't mean a hell of a lot.

 

[bdp]

Seguin is by far the best player in the draft.

Hall/Fowler for 2nd overall would be a better debate.

 

[Big Dogge*]

Seguin is by far the best player in the draft.

Have to sit back and laugh when wild assumptive claims like this are thrown out blindly.

I'm guessing that the professional scouts who have watched Hall and Seguin play for years have no idea what they're talking about when they say that it's neck and neck.

Although at the end of the OHL playoffs Hall will likely show why he's a better prospect than Seguin.

Cue the "Oh, but Hall plays on a stacked team!11!".

Ever think that Hall makes his teammates better? Henrique and Nemisz sure looked great at the WJC without Hall, didn't they?

I'm actually worried that Seguin doesn't seem to make his teammates much better.

 

[bdp]

Have to sit back and laugh when wild assumptive claims like this are thrown out blindly.

I'm guessing that the professional scouts who have watched Hall and Seguin play for years have no idea what they're talking about when they say that it's neck and neck.

Although at the end of the OHL playoffs Hall will likely show why he's a better prospect than Seguin.

Cue the "Oh, but Hall plays on a stacked team!11!".

Ever think that Hall makes his teammates better? Henrique and Nemisz sure looked great at the WJC without Hall, didn't they?

I'm actually worried that Seguin doesn't seem to make his teammates much better.

The Oilers didn't pick Hall yet.

 

[Big Dogge*]

The Oilers didn't pick Hall yet.

Does it matter? I'll still share the same opinion whether we have him or not. I love the way he plays the game.

 

[YogiCanucks]

I'd take Seguin over Hall... that being said, we've gotten to the point where we've praised him so much that the media has nothing left to do but nitpick. The Tim Tebow effect.

 

[Arpeggio]

Hall all the way. He's never done anything wrong really. Won Memorial Cup MVP, was a strong player on the WJC team, has never had a poor season. Knows Oiler management is in the building, asks his coach to play him at center and he puts up four points. Has shown up in literally every big game he's played in for the last two years. Wants to play in Edmonton.

There is absolutely no way the Oilers pass on Hall given the chance. If they do, I quit.

 

[One Trick Pony*]

Hall's natural position is Center.

Edmonton's forward depth could be unreal in a couple years:

Paajarvi-Hall-Hemsky
Penner-Gagner-Eberle

 

[surshot*]

yes we do. If the Oilers pick first Hall is the man. It would be nice if that rumor was true but what do we got to give up.

 

[Big Dogge*]

Hall's natural position is Center.

Edmonton's forward depth could be unreal in a couple years:

Paajarvi-Hall-Hemsky
Penner-Gagner-Eberle

That's a beautiful thing.

And Brule, Cogliano, Hartikainen, Lander, Nash ect. still on top of that.

Wow.

 

[syz]

All I see when I watch OHL clips of Seguin is weak goaltending. Most of these shots aren't going in the net in the northwest division, unless you're playing against the Oilers.

 

[BLAME CANADA*]

Hall's natural position is Center.

Edmonton's forward depth could be unreal in a couple years:

Paajarvi-Hall-Hemsky
Penner-Gagner-Eberle

Halls not really a center... Yeah the Oilers future looks good if their prospects pan out.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

The Oilers should take Seguin. He fits their team better and is the better player. It baffles me that there is so much chatter about how Hall is the Oilers guy.

 

[Canuck71*]

Good for you.

Thanks for such an intelligent post to help contribute to the thread. Hey, I wonder what you're opinion is on the subject? Does Edmonton want Hall or Seguin and why?

I stated my reasons, how about you state yours other than just wasting space posting useless immature crap looking for a few laughs. You must know a ton about these two guys though eh?

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I guess the question would be is, do you want Marian Gaborik, the exciting, off the rush goal scorer, or do you want a Pavel Datsyuk-esque centerman? Its very uncanny how close Seguin plays to Datsyuk but than again Datsyuk also plays like Yzerman.

I like the Datsyuk comparison very well to Seguin, maybe not the same defensive accumen as Datsyuk, although he is still considered good defensively, but playmaking, shot, skating wise, he's a very shifty, heads up playmaker.

I'd go with Seguin, he will be the defensive conscience to allow Eberle and MPS to free wheel and roam alot more in the offensive zone.

I have not witnessed much of either however from what I have and this such comparison, I would opt for Seguin myself although I believe Edmonton has more need of Hall. With Hemsky back next season and him playing exceptionally well with Gagner and Penner early this season, Hall would be something worthwhile for Edmonton.

The notion of them acquiring Toronto's pick from Boston is likely nonexistent. I cannot foresee anything Edmonton could possibly offer Boston for Toronto's pick. Penner is nothing in comparison to Hall or Seguin, they have no need of Souray and already possess a fairly decent youth pool.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Thanks for such an intelligent post to help contribute to the thread. Hey, I wonder what you're opinion is on the subject? Does Edmonton want Hall or Seguin and why?

I stated my reasons, how about you state yours other than just wasting space posting useless immature crap looking for a few laughs. You must know a ton about these two guys though eh?

Well, IMO I think Hall has the slight edge...and I mean slight...because to me (and I admit, I don't watch too many Spitfire or Whaler games) it seems that Hall has that extra gear when the games get bigger
-Memorial Cup MVP at 17
-Made the World Junior team was very good
-he looked better in the Top Prospects game
-the last game between the two teams Hall had 3 points while Seguin was held pointless
-he's got that "flash" factor that's needed on this team....blazing speed from off the wing is very tempting

On the other hand, Seguin is a LEGIT blue chip #1 center...and it's tough to win a Cup when you don't have one. Plus, he seems to me he could be a Backstrom-type center (maybe a better shot) and that intrigues me a lot

man, I want them both!

 

[Wheatking]

I guess the question would be is, do you want Marian Gaborik, the exciting, off the rush goal scorer, or do you want a Pavel Datsyuk-esque centerman? Its very uncanny how close Seguin plays to Datsyuk but than again Datsyuk also plays like Yzerman.

I like the Datsyuk comparison very well to Seguin, maybe not the same defensive accumen as Datsyuk, although he is still considered good defensively, but playmaking, shot, skating wise, he's a very shifty, heads up playmaker.

I'd go with Seguin, he will be the defensive conscience to allow Eberle and MPS to free wheel and roam alot more in the offensive zone.

If you read my post history(I don't actually expect you to) you'll see that I've also compared Seguin to Datsyuk many times. Both are fast and exciting. They can dangle with the best of them. They're goalscoring ability is a little underrated and they have very high hockey IQ. Defensively they're both good and also a little flashy in the sense they can strip a player of the puck with ease.

However, I don't think Hall is like Gaborik. If we're comparing them to elite players...Hall is like Ovechkin. He plays big. Likes to bang and crash and will usually come away with the puck when in a battle along the boards. He has a very good shot and underrated playmaking ability. They aren't the type of players that like to react to whats happening on the ice. They're the ones that create their own chances.

 

[OILNATION*]

If you read my post history(I don't actually expect you to) you'll see that I've also compared Seguin to Datsyuk many times. Both are fast and exciting. They can dangle with the best of them. They're goalscoring ability is a little underrated and they have very high hockey IQ. Defensively they're both good and also a little flashy in the sense they can strip a player of the puck with ease.

However, I don't think Hall is like Gaborik. If we're comparing them to elite players...Hall is like Ovechkin. He plays big. Likes to bang and crash and will usually come away with the puck when in a battle along the boards. He has a very good shot and underrated playmaking ability. They aren't the type of players that like to react to whats happening on the ice. They're the ones that create their own chances.

Good analysis, although I'm waiting for someone to mis-interpret and say "Hall will never be Overchkin what are you thinking?" haha. I'm certainly on the fence when it comes to these two guys, although my inclinations tend to draw me towards Hall for some reason, probably because he's the "sexy" pick this year. I'll be happy with both and hope the Oilers scouts aren't pressured to pick Hall if indeed Seguin is the best pick going forward.

 

[SnipShow]

Have to sit back and laugh when wild assumptive claims like this are thrown out blindly.

I'm guessing that the professional scouts who have watched Hall and Seguin play for years have no idea what they're talking about when they say that it's neck and neck.

Although at the end of the OHL playoffs Hall will likely show why he's a better prospect than Seguin.

Cue the "Oh, but Hall plays on a stacked team!11!".

Ever think that Hall makes his teammates better? Henrique and Nemisz sure looked great at the WJC without Hall, didn't they?

I'm actually worried that Seguin doesn't seem to make his teammates much better.

Going to have to sit back and laugh a little myself, Henrique and Nemisz both made team canada and no whaler forward other than Seguin was even invited to try out, this shows they are far more talented than any whaler forwards with or without the help of taylor hall

Anyone who says Tyler Seguin is a puckhog and doesn't use his teammates is wrong and does not watch enough whaler games, The entire whaler offense especially the powerplay runs through Seguin he reads the ice and controls the play always looking for an open teammate, Seguin is more of a playmaker than a goal scorer, he is the kind of player that makes his teammates around him better. People that go to a lot of whaler games would know that Seguin really doesn't take many shots a game he usually is looking for the pass but the talent around him isn't even close to what Taylor Hall gets to work with night in and night out.

Without Seguin the Whalers wouldn't be close to where they are right now and I don't know if I can say they same about Taylor Hall because the spits are so talented, I bet Seguin would pray to have the same talent Hall does on his line and on the powerplay, its a little easier finding space on the ice when the opposing team has to watch out for everyone on the ice but for the Whalers its more like where is Seguin at ?

 

[songsinsleep]

Not that I actually want the Oil to make the right decision, but I think if two players are as close in talent as Hall and Seguin are, you always take the one that will play centre in the NHL. And that means Seguin.

 

[AlMo]

I'd say the Oilers should go with Hall. The hype is there and for good reason.

There's a rumor circulating (ESPN) that the Oilers are trying to get the 2 of the top3 picks. In which case, they should target Fowler as well. They need a franchise dman. Like so many other teams.

So I guess they're shopping Eberle?

 

[AlMo]

Well, IMO I think Hall has the slight edge...and I mean slight...because to me (and I admit, I don't watch too many Spitfire or Whaler games) it seems that Hall has that extra gear when the games get bigger
-Memorial Cup MVP at 17
-Made the World Junior team was very good
-he looked better in the Top Prospects game
-the last game between the two teams Hall had 3 points while Seguin was held pointless
-he's got that "flash" factor that's needed on this team....blazing speed from off the wing is very tempting

On the other hand, Seguin is a LEGIT blue chip #1 center...and it's tough to win a Cup when you don't have one. Plus, he seems to me he could be a Backstrom-type center (maybe a better shot) and that intrigues me a lot

man, I want them both!

I agree with this.....the kid just seems like a winner. Nothing against Seguin at all, the kid has the talent to be a star but Hall has a great skillset and compete level.

 

[bobermay]

Hall was playing with a player in Kadri that is so far below his skill level it's not even funny.

Even on the PP you could see the noticeable skill difference between Hall & Eberle and then Nazem Kadri. Hall had a damn fine WJC.

You mad?

Look. Its okay to say that Eberle had the best WJC on Team Canada. Everybody knows this. This kid is a veteran in the WJC, and he is clutch.

But take off you Hall glasses man. He wasn't really superior to Kadri at all. They never found chemistry in the WJC.... IMHO... Hall turned over the puck more than Kadri in that tournament... but people really don't care to admit that. That said, they BOTH had a good tournament.

That said. This really is a Hall/Seguin debate.... why did you have to bring Kadri into this?

And I just don't see Elite/Superstar tallent in Hall. He gets away with stuff against Juniors that I don't think he will against Pros.