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LW Reid Boucher (2011, 99th overall, New Jersey)

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PensFan6687 said:
No. 50 for Boucher. Anyone who can score at this clip and do it without just about anyone at this point as his linemate... you got to start thinking he's going to be a goodie.
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A couple of former OHL 50 goal scorers:


2011

Tyler Toffoli (92) 57
Christian Thomas (92) 54

2010

Jeff Skinner (92) 50

2009

John Tavares (90) 58
Brett Parnham (89) 50

2008

Brett Maclean (88) 61
Steven Stamkos (90) 58
Luca Caputi (88) 51

2007

Patrick Kane (88) 62
John Tavares (90) 72
Tyler Donati (86) 54


2006

Rob Schremp (86)
Dave Bolland (86)
Ryan Callahan (85)

2004

Tyler Locke (84)


I think the trend you are seeing is that players who score 50 goals in the OHL in their draft year tend to be high draft picks and elite scorers in the NHL. Players who score 50 goals in their 20 year old year (it's 2013 and Boucher is a 1993) haven't made a significant impact in the past decade, except in the case of Callahan and Bolland as defensive players.
 
PensFan6687 said:
No. 50 for Boucher. Anyone who can score at this clip and do it without just about anyone at this point as his linemate... you got to start thinking he's going to be a goodie.
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bravo to Reid as the kid just keeps scoring!!

no doubt he wont see this success at the pro level, but he clearly is making a name for himself and a player to keep an eye on at camp next year for the Devils.

I can even see him playing for team USA at the WC once Sarnia gets bounced.
 
Xokkeu said:
A couple of former OHL 50 goal scorers:


2011

Tyler Toffoli (92) 57
Christian Thomas (92) 54

2010

Jeff Skinner (92) 50

2009

John Tavares (90) 58
Brett Parnham (89) 50

2008

Brett Maclean (88) 61
Steven Stamkos (90) 58
Luca Caputi (88) 51

2007

Patrick Kane (88) 62
John Tavares (90) 72
Tyler Donati (86) 54


2006

Rob Schremp (86)
Dave Bolland (86)
Ryan Callahan (85)

2004

Tyler Locke (84)


I think the trend you are seeing is that players who score 50 goals in the OHL in their draft year tend to be high draft picks and elite scorers in the NHL. Players who score 50 goals in their 20 year old year (it's 2013 and Boucher is a 1993) haven't made a significant impact in the past decade, except in the case of Callahan and Bolland as defensive players.
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You can't count a guy who has been been born late in the year. He's a 19-year-old. But I get what you mean.... Still, it's promising. I wonder how many have the amazing shot this kid has... not everyone on that list does. We'll see. Always nice to dig up history, but there are those who also defy or go against the grain.
 
AmericanDream said:
bravo to Reid as the kid just keeps scoring!!

no doubt he wont see this success at the pro level, but he clearly is making a name for himself and a player to keep an eye on at camp next year for the Devils.

I can even see him playing for team USA at the WC once Sarnia gets bounced.
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I wouldnt think the likelyhood is high considering he is 18 and never even played in a WJC.
 
PensFan6687 said:
You can't count a guy who has been been born late in the year. He's a 19-year-old. But I get what you mean.... Still, it's promising. I wonder how many have the amazing shot this kid has... not everyone on that list does. We'll see. Always nice to dig up history, but there are those who also defy or go against the grain.
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Don't get me wrong, I'll be more than happy if Boucher makes me look stupid and goes on to be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL. I just think it's going to be very tough for him. He has an elite shot, but the rest of his tools are going to be questionable.
 
Xokkeu said:
Don't get me wrong, I'll be more than happy if Boucher makes me look stupid and goes on to be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL. I just think it's going to be very tough for him. He has an elite shot, but the rest of his tools are going to be questionable.
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I can't say he will be a 30 goal scorer and you can't say he won't be an NHL relevant player. Only father time knows the question to that. Oh, and Reid Boucher and the right environment setting.
 
Xokkeu said:
A couple of former OHL 50 goal scorers:


2011

Tyler Toffoli (92) 57
Christian Thomas (92) 54

2010

Jeff Skinner (92) 50

2009

John Tavares (90) 58
Brett Parnham (89) 50

2008

Brett Maclean (88) 61
Steven Stamkos (90) 58
Luca Caputi (88) 51

2007

Patrick Kane (88) 62
John Tavares (90) 72
Tyler Donati (86) 54


2006

Rob Schremp (86)
Dave Bolland (86)
Ryan Callahan (85)

2004

Tyler Locke (84)


I think the trend you are seeing is that players who score 50 goals in the OHL in their draft year tend to be high draft picks and elite scorers in the NHL. Players who score 50 goals in their 20 year old year (it's 2013 and Boucher is a 1993) haven't made a significant impact in the past decade, except in the case of Callahan and Bolland as defensive players.
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Boucher was 18 to start the season, and this is his second OHL season.

Toffoli and Thomas were in their third OHL seasons. Parnham, Caputi, and MacLean were in their fourth OHL seasons. Donati was in his fifth OHL season and was 21. Schremp was in his fourth OHL season.

Cory Locke seems like the most damning comp.
 
As someone who has watched Boucher player countless times, if you guys are expecting a Gaborik like player or even a 30-30 guy at the NHL level then you are likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

He is a phenomenal shooter and has tremendous line chemistry right now but he has a long ways to go to being able to skate/compete at the NHL level. Skating, puck handling (especially in tight and one-on-one), and aggressiveness require much improvement.

He;'s a project type of pick and he will need to see some serious AHL seasoning. Once he gets there, that is where and when people should truly judge his skillset vs stronger/faster opponents.

He's performing well at the OHL level and he has impressed me but his skill translation is what worries me.
 
Classic Devil said:
I really don't see Boucher making the NHL at all if he's not a top-6 forward. He's going to have to be able to produce points to compensate for the other deficiencies in his game (which are problems that aren't going to just go away, I don't think). Higgins is bigger and has a better defensive and physical game, something Boucher is not likely ever to have.

I wanted to bump this, Boucher now has 44 goals and 24 assists in 51 games (and he's not done yet this afternoon).
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I agree with you re: top 6. His shot is scary good (although accuracy is not not always the best despite the huge numbers - scary how many he would have if this area improved) but he has areas of his game that he needs to make big strides in.

I like the pick where they got him, a nice player at that spot with big upside if he improves in areas of his game. Give him an AHL coach who puts big effort into his weaknesses and he might just be the steal people hope he is.

I'm sure our Sarnia based scout will give his 02 cents at some point.
 
Reid is a scoring machine. His shot is at the NHL level right now and he's going to break Steven Stamkos' single season franchise record with the Sting originally set in 2008.

I've heard some unfair comparisons to where he measures up with Stamkos. They're two competely different players at two completely different levels so there's no point in trying to compare. Also keep in mind Stamkos missed several games helping Team Canada win the World Junior Championships that year.

I believe Reid will get a very fair shot in the NHL. He's shown in the OHL he can get into the right position and get that shot off and he will score some NHL goals with that ability. I don't see him becoming a star, because it's very difficult to survive off of a single strength. Reid is a funny player sometimes. He will show you a little something extra but that's it. One game he'll throw some solid hits, like last night. Some nights he'll hurry back in transition to help his team out defensively like he did tonight before the game got out of hand. But he doesn't it all together in a game, or with any consistency to it.

Sometimes players move on from junior and can turn it on and play a more complete game and help their team out in different areas (Ryan Spooner is a perfect example of that comparing how he played last year and this year) but there are few players that can do that and unless Reid can, he may get very limited opportunities at the NHL level. You can't count out a guy with that shot, but he really needs to add more elements to his game on a consistent basis.
 
Feed Me A Stray Cat said:
Boucher was 18 to start the season, and this is his second OHL season.

Toffoli and Thomas were in their third OHL seasons. Parnham, Caputi, and MacLean were in their fourth OHL seasons. Donati was in his fifth OHL season and was 21. Schremp was in his fourth OHL season.

Cory Locke seems like the most damning comp.
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Pretty weak attempt to deflect those comparisons. Thomas and Toffoli notched 54 and 57 goals respectively in their 18 year old seasons, while Boucher is in his 19 year old season. I don't know why the fact Boucher played his 16 and 17 year old seasons with the US NTDP invalidates that comparison. Sure there was maybe an adjustment period at the start, but that shouldn't be relevant a year and a half later.

Clearly Boucher's a very talented goal scorer, but as many have said, it doesn't take a special talent to put up huge goal totals as a 19 year old. And it's not like his skill set is different from those other players as well - Thomas is a similar build, Toffoli has a similar shot. The trend is actually pretty clear.
 
he is simply tearing apart the OHL right now..

Boucher has the offensive skill and instinct to be a top player for the Devils in the next few years....his compete level, skating, and size will determine how big of a role he will have as they are going to give him every opportunity.
 
AmericanDream said:
he is simply tearing apart the OHL right now..

Boucher has the offensive skill and instinct to be a top player for the Devils in the next few years....his compete level, skating, and size will determine how big of a role he will have as they are going to give him every opportunity.
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he's closing in on 60 goals... it's amazing how much he's improved from last season
 
His shot is ridiculous but he must work on other parts of his game.
I would love for Kovy to mentor him on how to make his game more well rounded
 
Missionhockey said:
Exactly how bad is his skating? Who would you compare his skating to?
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Honestly, its not that bad. He has a good little motor and a decent first step. He's really strong on his stick and tough to push around near the net/in the corners.

His stride needs work and he'll never be a big time puck carrier, but if Petr Sykora can score 20 goals in this league with his skating ability I think Boucher will be just fine.
 
Missionhockey said:
Exactly how bad is his skating? Who would you compare his skating to?
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It's not "bad", it just lacks a breakaway gear to create chances that way. I would say his one-on-one puck skills would be the more concerning weakness but I've seen improvements in that area too this year.
 
Boucher is Sarnia's new single-season goal scoring record holder, reaching 60 tonight after a hat trick against Saginaw. Steven Stamkos previously held the record with 58.
 
Insane goal production. I think he's going to be in the NHL next year.
 
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