LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) VI

[Artorius Horus T]

Laine has played the entire tournament about 50% of the maximum
(half assingit )and yet has scored 6 goals,4 assists in 6 games.

What/how has the other guy done?.

 

[kelsier]

Laine is not much comparable to Ovechkin anyway's he is more like Mario Lemieux/Jaromir Jagr stylish player. Ovechkin is stonehanded Wood head compared to him. About only think that relates them is shot

You can definitely see some shades of both players in him. Generally he's compared to Ovechkin, but the two are nothing alike apart from the shot. Laine doesn't quite have the lower body strenght of Jagr, but not sure if anyone does. The puck protection is there though with pretty outstanding hands. If Laine manages to carve out a career anything even close to similar as Jagr, I'd be thrilled. Jagr's probably the best winger to ever play the game and his longevity is nothing short of admirable. Laine has all the tools but it's always a big question mark if they carry to the last level. He wants to be the best player in the world and looks to be commited to do the work that it needs. We will have to watch and see, and how much fun will that be!

 

[Hagged]

Laine has played the entire tournament about 50% of the maximum
(half assingit )and yet has scored 6 goals,4 assists in 6 games.

What/how has the other guy done?.

Matthews has been 25% of the maximum with 3+3=6.

So their 100% effort would bring them:

FAE (full assing equivalency)

Laine=12 goals, 8 assists for 20 points in 6 games.
Matthews=12+12=24 points in 6 games.

Matthews LAINEC.

 

[Lempo]

What?

He's broken Ferdinand Cattini's LW record from 1934-35 season, but we don't know if it really counts now as he did it playing RW.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

People compare Laine to Ovie,couldn't be far from the truth.
(i don't think sharing one attribute is enough)

Ovie is still like a kid in candy store,hussling,bustling all over the place,
touching everything,loud,allways about.

Laine is like a funny,relaxed,laid back southern gentleman,
who always produces when professionally needed.
(sure Laine gets frustrated,but thats because he is still young
and learning)

Laine can look worst player on the ice,yet score 2 goals
and when this is a game where the team who scores
most goals wins,its a hell of a good thing.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Matthews has been 25% of the maximum with 3+3=6.

So their 100% effort would bring them:

FAE (full assing equivalency)

Laine=12 goals, 8 assists for 20 points in 6 games.
Matthews=12+12=24 points in 6 games.

Matthews LAINEC.

Not in those USA games what ive seen,
haven't seen every team USA game,
but in those he gave 75-80%

All ive seen from Matthews is his effort,
which is nice and his poor face-off ability,
which is not.

There has been flairs of his talent
through out the tournament,but mostly;
he tries hard without producing,his skating is strong,
yet not always forwards going,too lateral,
he is smart with the puck,not that smart
with out the puck,good accurate wrist shot,
but doesn't seem to know when excatly
use it and not to use it -> only 3 goals in 6 games,
too much outside of the game,needs to be closer
to the net.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Matthews has been 25% of the maximum with 3+3=6.

So their 100% effort would bring them:

FAE (full assing equivalency)

Laine=12 goals, 8 assists for 20 points in 6 games.
Matthews=12+12=24 points in 6 games.

Matthews LAINEC.

Nice.

 

[Lempo]

Matthews has been 25% of the maximum with 3+3=6.

So their 100% effort would bring them:

FAE (full assing equivalency)

Laine=12 goals, 8 assists for 20 points in 6 games.
Matthews=12+12=24 points in 6 games.

Matthews LAINEC.

Yeah but do we know the % for Schroeder, Vatrano, Barkov and Jokinen cos that needs to be factored in. Barkov >> Laine but behind him in scores, so he can't have been assing anything more than 30 % which is bringing Laine down.

 

[QnebO]

Matthews has been 25% of the maximum with 3+3=6.

So their 100% effort would bring them:

FAE (full assing equivalency)

Laine=12 goals, 8 assists for 20 points in 6 games.
Matthews=12+12=24 points in 6 games.

Matthews LAINEC.

Lol good post. I laughed.

Btw the VS topic was horrible read and I didin't read it much, but after it is locked, it makes this topic way worse. Suddenly we have 3 pages per day more, matthews people trying to devalue everything Laine does "Yeah, he is leading the team in scoring and tournament scoring, BUT that's pretty much a bust for a draft age winger. Bust ainec. Points don't tell much for scoring winger type player anyway."

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Not in those USA games what ive seen,
haven't seen every team USA game,
but in those he gave 75-80%

All ive seen from Matthews is his effort,
which is nice and his poor face-off ability,
which is not.

There has been flairs of his talent
through out the tournament,but mostly;
he tries hard without producing,his skating is strong,
yet not always forwards going,too lateral,
he is smart with the puck,not that smart
with out the puck,good accurate wrist shot,
but doesn't seem to know when excatly
use it and not to use it -> only 3 goals in 6 games,
too much outside of the game,needs to be closer
to the net.

You completely missed the joke.....

 

[vivalavili]

Laine can look worst player on the ice,yet score 2 goals
and when this is a game where the team who scores
most goals wins,its a hell of a good thing.

Well said. Laine and Matthews both are the answers to different needs. Toronto basically really needs the 1C and therefore Matthews goes there. I'm 100% confident that if for example Buffalo or Edmonton won the first overall this year Laine would go first.

 

[chauron]

This guy could in this tournament benefit from simplifying his game a little bit. Yesterday he tried too much and with all of the failing tricks n' stuff, actually generated some opportunities for Slovakia to counter. Also he should get more aggressive and steamroll like he did in some of the games in Liiga.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

BTW his 6th goal of these world was his 40th goal of the season.
(if you count 5 u20 exhibition game goals,it was his 45th)

17 goals regular season + 10 goals post season = 27 goals
7 goals u20 wjc + 6 goals worlds = 13 goals
27+13 = 40 (71 points)

 

[QnebO]

This guy could in this tournament benefit from simplifying his game a little bit. Yesterday he tried too much and with all of the failing tricks n' stuff, actually generated some opportunities for Slovakia to counter. Also he should get more aggressive and steamroll like he did in some of the games in Liiga.

He seems to not be in battle mode. Hell press the red buttom in playoffs. The whole team is coasting trough base series this year it seems. Outside pillu that is.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

You completely missed the joke.....

No,actually i didn't
i just took the Finnish way of looking at it
and went from there ...

 

[Risingwind]

This guy could in this tournament benefit from simplifying his game a little bit. Yesterday he tried too much and with all of the failing tricks n' stuff, actually generated some opportunities for Slovakia to counter. Also he should get more aggressive and steamroll like he did in some of the games in Liiga.

I think so too, but him playing on his offwing seems to be a big part of why his normal antics aren't there. It's not really a bad thing either, since now he has to play simpler to be effective. I'd love to see him with 100% efficiency on passes, the Barkov line would be much deadlier with that.

However stuff like that is something we can expect from Barkov who became a proper NHL 1C this season (even for a 20 year old it's exceptional) and Jokinen who is a pretty experienced winger. Expecting Laine to perform like an old hand is silly, seeing how this is the first time in his life playing at anything close to this level of hockey.

Team Finland isn't supposed to be a development team but Laine is doing exactly that, scoring while getting the hang of what works at this level and what doesn't. It's going to take more than 10 games to figure everything out, though...

 

[Lempo]

Team Finland isn't supposed to be a development team but Laine is doing exactly that, scoring while getting the hang of what works at this level and what doesn't. It's going to take more than 10 games to figure everything out, though...

Isn't it now, though? For whatever reason you occasionally see a player who's struggling in his regular team and role really amping up his act in the Lion jersey. It partially looks like the coaching is often more conscious on putting the player into place where he can show up, at least compared to the dog-eat-dog world of NHL.

We did see how it was with the promising young junior Selanne in Sochi after a trying season in Anaheim, and I'm really wanting to believe that Granlund winging it in the NT is not completely isolated from the reports of the joking suggestions that he should play wing in the post-season discussions with the coach in Minny.

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Isn't it now, though? For whatever reason you occasionally see a player who's struggling in his regular team and role really amping up his act in the Lion jersey. It partially looks like the coaching is often more conscious on putting the player into place where he can show up, at least compared to the dog-eat-dog world of NHL.

We did see how it was with the promising young junior Selanne in Sochi after a trying season in Anaheim, and I'm really wanting to believe that Granlund winging it in the NT is not completely isolated from the reports of the joking suggestions that he should play wing in the post-season discussions with the coach in Minny.

Then why is Rantanen can't even get playing time or pulju did not even made the team?

 

[skillhockey]

Then why is Rantanen can't even get playing time or pulju did not even made the team?

Finns always take best players available. They take some guys for specific roles like pihlstrom but he's always been good so he works anyhow. Laine has earned his role with play, what ever people here try to say. Top scorer with lot less ice time than the koivu line is getting.

 

[Risingwind]

Finns always take best players available. They take some guys for specific roles like pihlstrom but he's always been good so he works anyhow. Laine has earned his role with play, what ever people here try to say. Top scorer with lot less ice time than the koivu line is getting.

If Laine had 95%+ success rate for his passes, I'm pretty sure they would get more ice time.

 

[Gsus]

Then why is Rantanen can't even get playing time or pulju did not even made the team?

Pulju hurt himself in March and that affected him in the playoffs and u18 WJC's. That terminated his chances.

 

[JA]

Pulju hurt himself in March and that affected him in the playoffs and u18 WJC's. That terminated his chances.

He won a gold medal at the U18s, which is also good. He'll have many future World Championships to participate in. I don't think draft ranking matters as much to him as that medal.

 

[ijuka]

Pulju hurt himself in March and that affected him in the playoffs and u18 WJC's. That terminated his chances.

Yeah he's injured and had surgery before worlds but him making the team was just guessing by the masses. The coach himself said that "Laine and Aho might make it" after jr worlds, ignoring Puljujärvi.

 

[Gsus]

Yeah he's injured and had surgery before worlds but him making the team was just guessing by the masses. The coach himself said that "Laine and Aho might make it" after jr worlds, ignoring Puljujärvi.

He mentioned Puljujärvis's chances in one interview and didn't ignore him at any ways. Probably didn't now about the injury back then or it was just jargon. I still doubt he would've made the team so I don't really care anymore.

 

[ijuka]

He mentioned Puljujärvis's chances in one interview and didn't ignore him at any ways. Probably didn't now about the injury back then or it was just jargon. I still doubt he would've made the team so I don't really care anymore.

He was injured back in January?