LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016, 2nd, WPG) XII

[MardyBum]

Ive watched him a lot. Dont get me wrong im a big fan. But he will never do what Ovi has like people here say he will. I dont think he will be close. At his peak I think he is a 40 goal/70-75 point player.

What I mean is the overhyping is coming from a few Finnish fans.

Most Jets fans think 25 goals would be a great rookie season for him.

 

[FazeLeaf*]

What I mean is the overhyping is coming from a few Finnish fans.

Most Jets fans think 25 goals would be a great rookie season for him.

Oh sorry. Your right the majority is the Finnish fans.

 

[Jetabre]

If he has a similar rookie season to Ehlers I'd be pleased. If he actually nets 30 goals oh man that'd be amazing.

 

[Gsus]

What I mean is the overhyping is coming from a few Finnish fans.

Most Jets fans think 25 goals would be a great rookie season for him.

Well, the Finns don't go that high. Predicting his rookie season goals, I don't think there's any overhyping. I think here's just a couple of guys who think he will hit way more.

20 goals for Laine's rookie season. That's my prediction.

22 goals, and that's optimistic.

10 goals, 15 assists. And being declared as a bust.

17 goals is the correct answer

Laine will score 15 goals on his rookie season.

5-10 ES goals, and with prime PP time 10-15 PPG for a total of 15-25 goals with prime PP time, and 15-20 assists.

If he plays very little PP then something around 10 G and 15A.

I estimate 22 goals and increasing it sophomore year then.

Everything over 20 is a bonus.

If the knee injury hampers his strength training and he is given a limited role, I'm thinking 15+15. If he has a good summer and gets utilized optimally, I see 25+25.

 

[MardyBum]

Well, the Finns don't go that high. Predicting his rookie season goals, I don't think there's any overhyping. I think here's just a couple of guys who think he will hit way more.

A few, you know who they are =P.

 

[Loffer]

Patrick Lane will put up a clinic n score 40 goals, at least. The shrunken pads won't be able to keep the puck outta the net. Sorry, gyus.

 

[JA]

Patrick Lane will put up a clinic n score 40 goals, at least. The shrunken pads won't be able to keep the puck outta the net. Sorry, gyus.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/poet-patrick-lane-on-looking-for-the-beauty-in-life/article13048984/

At 74, Patrick Lane remains one of Canada’s most celebrated poets. Last week, he was named to the Order of Canada. And last month he was awarded an honorary degree by the University of British Columbia’s Okanagan campus in Kelowna – particularly meaningful since the school is just down the road from Vernon, where Mr. Lane grew up and spent his early years scrounging a living. In his address to the convocation, he spoke powerfully of those tough, formative years and, in particular, of an extraordinary incident that has affected his life ever since. It taught him the value of beauty. When he finished, there was silence, followed by rapturous applause.

 

[Master Scheif]

Might have to make a street in Winnipeg called Patrik lane.

 

[Lempo]

Well, the Finns don't go that high. Predicting his rookie season goals, I don't think there's any overhyping. I think here's just a couple of guys who think he will hit way more.

They may be referring to the fact that before the draft we had more 40-page threads about Laine than SabresBOY has posts.

 

[Gsus]

They may be referring to the fact that before the draft we had more 40-page threads about Laine than SabresBOY has posts.

Yup, after I watched his post again I realized that. I'm fine tho with the number of pages Laine gets, it's the quality that matters the most.

The Jets and Laine should do a 'mean tweets' type of video of all the bashing happened in his threads.

 

[kelsier]

Lmao . 35? You know since 2005 only Ovi, Crosby and Skinner have scored 30 in their rookie year. 35 goals would be a .42 GPG , he scored at .37GPG in Finland which is far less supior to NHL hockey. I get thats its one more year but the hype for this guy is really high and becoming unfair for him.

Obviously you have no clue of how he was used in Tappara (if you even know what I was referring to).

Oh sorry. Your right the majority is the Finnish fans.

Are you coming back to rant after he gets his game going in the NHL or quietly disappear? We'd be thrilled to welcome you back when Laine gets his wheels running in the NHL. Some of us have a long memory.

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Personally, granted Laine stays healthy, the absolute floor would be 15 goals. If he reaches 30, I'd be thrilled. It all depends how much of a toll the Corey Perry effect has on his off-season and how much time he will actually have to improve his skating along with other areas.

He had a better draft season as Ovi and the tools to become equal or better player in the future. It will be a huge challenge, but he wants to be the best player one day so I have faith in the kid. Time will tell. Then again, other than the shot, they are not much alike as players.

 

[CorgisPer60]

he's coming in with monstrous expectations, both fueled by his words and his deeds. I'm expecting 15 goals at the very least. I'll be positively thrilled if he gets more than 20.

 

[Teukka]

If he had had the opportunity for a healthy summer of training (getting more explosiveness etc.), I would honestly believe that a 30+ goal season would be possible. With the knee injury/surgery preventing him that training opportunity, I'm expecting a 15-20 goal season. I know everyone purposely downplays the effect that knee has just to seem positive and confident, but an injury that prevents you from (developing your) skating all summer is something that makes people lose Calder chances. Even if it's Laine we're talking about. I want to see full beast mode Laine at the World Cup, but I expect to see a slow, unfit guy who tries his best but can't fully compete with guys that have a healthier training routine behind them.

That said, I expect him to start hitting that 30-goal mark the next season (provided that no other injuries preventing good summer training appear).

 

[IFK]

It's not a standard play at all. Seriously watch it frame by frame.

Perry's going to get destroyed by Big Buff if he tries to pull that in NHL.

Yes, if he would done that in NHL it will every single game after that when they play against that he will gonna hurt big time, first time Buffy eat him a live and after that there will be some lower line player who will do some bad things Perry game after game. Also, Scheifele can tell in locker room what Perry have tell that sucker punch in WHC.

 

[Raymoondo]

That's a damn precise choice of word to describe him.

What?

 

[psycho_dad*]

Just because he was better than him at his age doesn't mean he will be better at every age after that. Sam Gagner was better than a lot of guys at his age but he didnt turn out better than any of them.

This goes without saying, and I have also said the same thing on most of my Laine posts. Nothing guarantees that he will ever play a game in the NHL until he actually does. Things can happen, things will happen. People can get injured, they can stop developing etc. There are plenty of things that could go wrong and there's always the possibility he never amounts to anything.

But that said, being a phenom all your junior years and breaking WHC records, having the best pre draft year ever by a european player at least, already having a shot that lands him in the top 3 shooters in the NHL today, at barely 18....those are the reasons why at least some people have a reason to PREDICT higher numbers right off the bat.

Predicting something is based on the available data, and to me this is what his progression during this year suggests. It doesn't mean it will happen necessarily.

A lot of people bring up the "Seriously!11 Only Ovy and Skinner...." well he is better than either one of them at 18 so why is it so unbelievable that someone sees he will keep that advantage through his career?

There are not many complete busts in that superstar prospect category that Laine belongs to. So why predict something that likely does not happen?

I don't need to be safe with my prediction, it's not going to affect my life one bit if I am wrong and he does not score 35 next year. It's just one of the possibilities, it could be less, it could be more or I could land that prediction perfectly. It's just my educated opinion and I don't need someone questioning it every time I make it, like I had no clue of what I just said or that I had no reason to predict it that way.

I do have a reason, and to me it looks like people are either just being ultra safe in a fear of some online mocking if they predict too high, or they are not as well informed as I am about Laine and his place in history with what he did this year. There literally has never been a U-18 player who has done what he did in WHC. Not anyone. That is exceptional and when you do that it lends credence to the idea that his ceiling could be one of the highest we have ever seen. Or not, but there's no valid reason to predict that to be very likely.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

He could score as high as 35 and as low as 15 on his rookie season. Well, even 45 is possible if he gets power play.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Gotta love those 60 goal seasons in KHL when Laine busts out.

 

[psycho_dad*]

He could score as high as 35 and as low as 15 on his rookie season. Well, even 45 is possible if he gets power play.

Yeah and we have no idea how the goalie equipment reduction will play out because there isn't any real data yet. Only logical assumption is that when more of the goal is exposed, more pucks will go in.

 

[Puckluck]

Yeah and we have no idea how the goalie equipment reduction will play out because there isn't any real data yet. Only logical assumption is that when more of the goal is exposed, more pucks will go in.

Although we do not have any data on this particular change, there have been numerous size reductions in the past, with relatively minor effects:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/i...-expect-save-percentages-to-decrease-with-it/

 

[Semantics]

I think he'll challenge Patrik Kaine for the scoring title.

 

[JA]

From Monday:



Patrik's English has improved so much in the past year.

 

[CanadienShark]

Who is willing to guess the exact amount of first season goals?

33 is my guess.

 

[Gsus]

What?

https://translate.google.com/

Try this.

 

[mazmin]

If Jeff Skinner can score 30 at age 19, there's no reason to think Laine can't score 30 as well.

How so?

- Powerplay: will play opposite Byfuglien on the #1 PP unit. It will be VERY hard for any team to defend two of the biggest shots at the same time. This factor will open up ice for Laine and he knows exactly how to turn that space into goals.
- Net Presence: he's a big boy and can claim his space in front of the net. With extremely fine motor skills he won't have any problems with deflections, tips, rebounds, and chip ins.
- Off the Rush: his ability to give and go, pass and receive is elite. He knows how to read the play and when to pull the trigger. Unlike some other Jets, he's never guilty of making too many passes. With elite skaters in Scheifele and Wheeler as his likely linemates I see his chance of success as huge.

He scores in too many different ways to contain. If he plays 75 games or more, I expect to see 30+ goals this season.