BusQuets
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I wanna see him try flipping at Hannu Jortikka. If he has the balls to do that he will become a star player no doubt.
LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, FEL (2016 Draft)
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I wanna see him try flipping at Hannu Jortikka. If he has the balls to do that he will become a star player no doubt.
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Is there any other incriminating evidence that he did this? With what I saw with Ho-Sang, If your immature you end up dropping. Would be interesting to see if the fact that he's quite possibly the best finnish prospect ever (referring to a post earlier on the boards) would keep him in the top 3 despite supposed attitude issues.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/jaakiekko/art-1288725477770.html
Confirmed by the head coach it was Laine. He was sent home early and won't play in the last game vs Swiss.
Too bad that Nieminen and Rautakorpi aren't with Tappara anymore, those two would propably could knock same sense into him.
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He is only 16 so there's no reason to overreact, but now is the time to make it absolutely clear to him that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated (as I'm under the impression this isn't the first time he has disciplinary issues). At this age there's still hope that he can be a better teammate. Many people are difficult as children and teenagers but still turn out great and I hope this turns out to be one of those cases.
Childish behavior and Ovechkin-like attitude when it comes to defense is a terrible combination for a Finnish player. He's talented, there's no doubt about that but this has to end here. He should no longer play in an environment where he gets off easily, where he's clearly superior to others and where his actions have no consequences. Therefore he should be banned from the NT for some time, preferably until his behavior improves (I'm sure Liitto is able to get reports on his quite easily). It's for his own good too.
Childish behavior and Ovechkin-like attitude when it comes to defense is a terrible combination for a Finnish player. He's talented, there's no doubt about that but this has to end here. He should no longer play in an environment where he gets off easily, where he's clearly superior to others and where his actions have no consequences. Therefore he should be banned from the NT for some time, preferably until his behavior improves (I'm sure Liitto is able to get reports on his quite easily). It's for his own good too.
Periwinkle
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No one needs Summanen. There is being an authoritative leader and then there's being...um, Summanen I guess.
I think the most worrisome quote in the original story was
"He does not respect the team, other players - no one", as said by "an insider" (so take it for what it's worth). I mean I get feelings boiling over but some deep set lack of respect for others is another thing.
Hopefully this is a big wake up call.
I think the most worrisome quote in the original story was
"He does not respect the team, other players - no one", as said by "an insider" (so take it for what it's worth). I mean I get feelings boiling over but some deep set lack of respect for others is another thing.
Hopefully this is a big wake up call.
Yep. It's just good that he has realised what kinda potential he has. Who gives a crap what kinda person he is if he develops into a superstar.
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He's obviously very self aware how far he is in development compared to his peers. Seems he posseses a characted that is very uncommon for Finns. Actually it appears a completely opposite to a normal Finnish person who tends to be humble and introverted. This is something that goes back to our ancestors and runs through the bloodlines. Selänne is an exception, but in a good way.
After the kid realises the kind of headlines he's managed to create in Finland I'm hopeful to think he takes a lesson and understand that he can't no longer be the kid while having the cameras upon him. Nonetheless, a lot of people will remember what happened in the Ivan Hlinka 2014 tournament and can already envision what's being said if he's still contending for being the #1 in 2016 draft year, regardless if he's changed the character or not.
After the kid realises the kind of headlines he's managed to create in Finland I'm hopeful to think he takes a lesson and understand that he can't no longer be the kid while having the cameras upon him. Nonetheless, a lot of people will remember what happened in the Ivan Hlinka 2014 tournament and can already envision what's being said if he's still contending for being the #1 in 2016 draft year, regardless if he's changed the character or not.
As a Finn you ought to care because players with that kind of attitude aren't accepted in the NT circle just like that. He has to be as effective as Ovechkin to even get consideration if he grows up to be a little punk.
Even if he could match Ovechkin's production, I still wouldn't like it if he made the NT with a crappy attitude. I wouldn't even like him as a player. I hope that he'll grow up to be a player I can respect.
IceHockeyDude
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I bet his parents arent very proud of him at this point. However I wasnt surprised if his parents were sissies who cant say NO to their child.
One of the reasons Barkov was brought in as a 16 years old was due to the good vibe he brought to the Tappara locker room and the team needed a spark being in the last place and with a new coach.
Even if Laine is good, with 0.5 PPG production (if he manages the pace of Barkov) without being as defensively responsible, and as positive locker room presence as Barkov he might still find himself in the Juniors.
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I wanna see him try flipping at Hannu Jortikka. If he has the balls to do that he will become a star player no doubt.
This. Jortikka will eat him alive
So you're willing to leave the best talent since Selänne out of the NT because he doesn't fit the bill of stereotypic Finnish sheep?
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Yes you would.
People seem to forget that if he turns into Alexander Ovechkin he will go down in history as one of the best goalscorers to ever play this game.
Of course his draft stock will take a hit with that kind of attitude but he will still easily be a 1st rounder and if that happens some team is going to get a steal by drafting him.
Holy hyperbole Batman. Nobody's asking him to be a sheep, but respect his teammates and coach and not be a locker room cancer. That's not a sheep but a decent teammate. When your biggest asset is good team play, you can't afford rotten apples on the team unless they truly make it worth your while. Laine has yet to prove anything on a high level.
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Well, I wouldn't, but that's just me. No need to undermine the whole team if one player isn't committed. I just don't like players who put themselves above the team or behave in a manner that I find offensive. I'm not trying to be objective here, I'm just writing about my own thoughts on the matter. That said, I don't get to do any of these decisions. I only get to rant about things on the internet, so all of this is pretty much just pointless jabbering.
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You're going to the extreme in two ways here. For starters, he may be touted by many as the best talent since Selanne but I think that's jumping the gun, even if he may well be. There are legitimate concerns with his game, namely his skating. He's an elite talent, but it's not a given that he's any better of a prospect than Barkov. It's too early to make a determination on that as we have to see how he does when he's no longer towering over the competition when he plays in the SM-Liiga.
More importantly though, you are equating people saying players shouldn't flip off their coach and cuss him out with people demanding they be "stereotypic Finnish sheep", which is absurd. That behavior is not gonna fly at any level, but especially not coming from kids on national teams. It's one thing if a veteran professional player has a heated exchange with his coach, as they're both men. No program is going to let a 16 year old act like this while representing the national team. The prospect of such a highly-touted and exciting player perhaps not representing the team in the near future because of this is tough to swallow, but arguing that they should just look past it is just not realistic. He's going to have to humble himself before the people running Finland's national program, admit his mistakes, and show that it isn't going to happen again, or they're going to leave him off the team, even if it hurts them on the ice. USA would do the same thing, no question. So would Canada, Sweden, etc.
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