In theory it should not be too late, but if his behavior is enabled by his parents, there isn't much that the hockey community can do to change things. I have heard similar rumors as you and I can only shake my head at the people defending him. It's not the same thing to be a somewhat challenging person (some Finnish prospects as well as older top players are that way already) and to be a problem child who gets himself sent home from both Pohjola Camp and Hlinka.
LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, FEL (2016 Draft)
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In theory it should not be too late, but if his behavior is enabled by his parents, there isn't much that the hockey community can do to change things. I have heard similar rumors as you and I can only shake my head at the people defending him. It's not the same thing to be a somewhat challenging person (some Finnish prospects as well as older top players are that way already) and to be a problem child who gets himself sent home from both Pohjola Camp and Hlinka.
Laine playing for Tappara tonight in CHL game vs HC Ocelari Trineci.
http://www.tappara.fi/liiga/uutiset/281-syyskuu-2014/8328-tappara-chl-pelissa-trinecia-vastaan
Kuusela and Peltola playing as defenseman?
http://www.tappara.fi/liiga/uutiset/281-syyskuu-2014/8328-tappara-chl-pelissa-trinecia-vastaan
Kuusela and Peltola playing as defenseman?
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Damn good news. Seems they've still got trust with this kid. Also seems he's going to actually play some real minutes today. This game I'm not about to miss. Should be nice to see if he's taken any leaps forward from that early season exhibition game. Unlike Jesse if he breaks through (at some point of the season) he should get some real breaks in the Liga instead of being stuck in winger stacked team.
I watched the game and let me tell you, we need to stop talking about this player. He is nowhere near a player, that should be talked about as much as he has. A terrible skater. Maybe the worst skater I have ever seen in this level. Slow and clumsy. He fumbled the puck constantly and missed a lot of shots (didnt hit the puck). He seems to have a good shot, when he hits the puck and he sure is big, but jeez he should play in the juniors.
Top speed was below average at best when he got to it. When he turned he seemed to loose all speed and basicly stopped. I cant even imagine how he skates backwards.
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Yep.One of the worst skaters i've seen in awhile.If he dont get better at that,I doubt that he will be even a solid Liiga player.He has all the skill in the world,but dear god his skating abilitys is just plain awful.
hmm.. Didnt he just have a leg injury? I havent seen him prior the injury, so i cant say how much it affected his skating. But i sure hope, that he's better that few last post lets us know..
Laine with his first pro goal today vs Hokki. Played on a line with Sami Holappa and Masi Marjamäki, which scored all of the 5 goals but only 1 point for Laine.
His linemate Sami Holappa talked about him, pretty interesting stuff. Sounds like Laine doesn't quite understand what it takes to play at pro level.
His linemate Sami Holappa talked about him, pretty interesting stuff. Sounds like Laine doesn't quite understand what it takes to play at pro level.
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-It's nice to give some advice and help Laine. I try to give him tips how to play on pro game. He is super skilled, but he has lot to learn what you can and can't do in men's game
-At times, Laine tries to do too much and too fancy dekes at wrong places, in his own end or at the center ice. Lots of times they work, but sometimes he loses the puck on a bad spot
-I've been trying to tell him that first you enter the zone with speed and then try the toe drag, like he did today on his goal. I try to give little tips, help whatever I can with my own experience
Here's my interpretation of what Holoppa said about Laine:
"It's nice to try to share my experience with Laine. I try to give some advice on how you ought to play with men. He's really skilled player, but he has quite a bit to learn on what you can and can't do when playing with men.
Sometimes he'll try to do perhaps too fancy dekes in wrong situations, in his own end or in the neutral zone. Sure, they'll work often, but on the other hand sometimes they lead to nasty turnovers.
I've tried to tell him, that let's just get to the offensive zone quickly and then try to do these fancy tricks, like he scored today after a nice deke. I'll try to give small tips, whatever I can with experience."
edit: A little late apparently!
"It's nice to try to share my experience with Laine. I try to give some advice on how you ought to play with men. He's really skilled player, but he has quite a bit to learn on what you can and can't do when playing with men.
Sometimes he'll try to do perhaps too fancy dekes in wrong situations, in his own end or in the neutral zone. Sure, they'll work often, but on the other hand sometimes they lead to nasty turnovers.
I've tried to tell him, that let's just get to the offensive zone quickly and then try to do these fancy tricks, like he scored today after a nice deke. I'll try to give small tips, whatever I can with experience."
edit: A little late apparently!
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If he really has such career-hindering skating issues, it seems odd they've gone undetected for so long. What I mean is, he is projected to go high in various rankings.
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While I don't disagree, a player of his overall talent and domination of his peers is always going to project very high years out from his draft. As the draft comes closer and peers catch up (to some degree), people are forced to break these guys' games down more to see if they're going to hold that gap going forward or if it'll continue to shrink or even reverse.
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Actually skating and his defensive game was the biggest negative things I noticed from Laine when I saw him playing in A-juniors.
Though I remember that Joel Armia and Mikko Rantanen were just as terrible skaters as Laine at the same age. While neither of those are at the moment great skaters, skating is not as big issue as it once was. Skating just needs a lot of work and if we start to see improvement on that department, I wouldn't worry that much about it.
The mental side worries me more at this point.
Though I remember that Joel Armia and Mikko Rantanen were just as terrible skaters as Laine at the same age. While neither of those are at the moment great skaters, skating is not as big issue as it once was. Skating just needs a lot of work and if we start to see improvement on that department, I wouldn't worry that much about it.
The mental side worries me more at this point.
McGlassbangers
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Laine is going to make his Finnish Elite League debut tonight against HPK. He's playing on the 4th line.
Pekka Jormakka - Josh Green - Kristian Kuusela
Antti Erkinjuntti - Jan-Mikael Järvinen - Olli Palola
Elmeri Kaksonen - Jarkko Malinen - Jere Karjalainen
Otto Rauhala - Jukka Peltola - Patrik Laine
Pekka Jormakka - Josh Green - Kristian Kuusela
Antti Erkinjuntti - Jan-Mikael Järvinen - Olli Palola
Elmeri Kaksonen - Jarkko Malinen - Jere Karjalainen
Otto Rauhala - Jukka Peltola - Patrik Laine
Yes, seems weird. Maybe it's all planned beforehand. Or maybe they're trying to kick start Laine. His confidence has to be atleast a little bit down.
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Periwinkle
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Seems like odd logic to "reward" a junior after mediocre play by giving him a "promotion" to the Liiga level. Seems exactly the opposite what one should do with a junior with entitlement issues. But interesting to hear how he does anyway.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/sm-liiga/art-1288743958485.html
- Olen hyvällä tiellä. Päänuppi on nyt täysin kunnossa. Mikään ei viittaa siihen, että vastaava toistuisi, Laine korosti.
So looks like he isn't so crazy afterall.
- Olen hyvällä tiellä. Päänuppi on nyt täysin kunnossa. Mikään ei viittaa siihen, että vastaava toistuisi, Laine korosti.
So looks like he isn't so crazy afterall.
So, the article says that he has seen the team psychologist and Laine says that his head is now in order. I hope it is, but fixing attitude issues is not that simple.
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