LW Patrik Laine (2016, 2nd, WPG) XVI

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I would go to the Winnipeg Arena expecting to see Selanne score. It's becoming the same with Laine. "How many goals will Laine score tonight?" is usually thrown out there on the way to the games. I'm a 40 year old man and I'm close to putting up Laine posters in my room like I'm 13 years old. The wife said no lol.

:laugh: I am 39yo and I have exactly same vibes going on then you have. My relationship with my wife is slightly suffering for these late happenings, though attachment of a poster to the wall wouldn't be issue. LOL.
 
The head scout at McKeens had Laine as the best pick and said he could be a 60 goal scorer. People ripped him to shreds for being so bold.
 
Please.. i dare to you say it.. Please. Please :sarcasm:

I'm the biggest finnish homer on this site, and expected heavy adjustment period for Laine (similar to the one he had when going from junior to Mestis). You bet I'm surprised.

But I'm a bit afraid if Laine goes through a 10 game slump all this Laine equals Lemieux talk will cause Laine threads to become insufferable (despite him still being above 40 point pace if he goes pointless the next 10).

My expectations have risen to 50 points but it means I expect Laine to score at a 40% higher pace for the remaining season than I originally thought.

Just remember, every rookie goes through a slump at some point. Matthews is having one, Laine could easily go through a scoring drought later. Just think of it, 50 point 18 year old season is crazy good in this era! No need to put 76 point expectations just to go through a disappointment in a sea of "I told you so" -trolls.
 
Ehlers Scheifele Laine has more chemistry than Wheeler Scheifele Laine for whatever reason. Seems like E + L have a bromance going.
 
I'm the biggest finnish homer on this site, and expected heavy adjustment period for Laine (similar to the one he had when going from junior to Mestis). You bet I'm surprised.

But I'm a bit afraid if Laine goes through a 10 game slump all this Laine equals Lemieux talk will cause Laine threads to become insufferable (despite him still being above 40 point pace if he goes pointless the next 10).

My expectations have risen to 50 points but it means I expect Laine to score at a 40% higher pace for the remaining season than I originally thought.

Just remember, every rookie goes through a slump at some point. Matthews is having one, Laine could easily go through a scoring drought later. Just think of it, 50 point 18 year old season is crazy good in this era! No need to put 76 point expectations just to go through a disappointment in a sea of "I told you so" -trolls.

Laine already went through a slump. 4 games 0+0, -3, 11 shots.
 
I'm the biggest finnish homer on this site, and expected heavy adjustment period for Laine (similar to the one he had when going from junior to Mestis). You bet I'm surprised.

But I'm a bit afraid if Laine goes through a 10 game slump all this Laine equals Lemieux talk will cause Laine threads to become insufferable (despite him still being above 40 point pace if he goes pointless the next 10).

My expectations have risen to 50 points but it means I expect Laine to score at a 40% higher pace for the remaining season than I originally thought.

Just remember, every rookie goes through a slump at some point. Matthews is having one, Laine could easily go through a scoring drought later. Just think of it, 50 point 18 year old season is crazy good in this era! No need to put 76 point expectations just to go through a disappointment in a sea of "I told you so" -trolls.

That's why there were "sarcasm" emote.. I would be stoked to see Laine surpass that 76 goal mark.. But it's highly unlikely.. 30+ would be good.. (and i wrote that text, coz the person said that if he says: Laine wont score 76 goals. He's going to do it after that.)
 
The head scout at McKeens had Laine as the best pick and said he could be a 60 goal scorer. People ripped him to shreds for being so bold.

Not to people that actually observed the 2 play. It was widely reported some European scouts favoured Laine. The ripping came only after the draft lottery.
 
Not to people that actually observed the 2 play. It was widely reported some European scouts favoured Laine. The ripping came only after the draft lottery.
That was never widely reported. The furthest it went was McKenzie saying some European scouts prefer Laine.

I respected Pronman's opinion on the manner, but I'd be shocked if McKeen's actually scouted Laine from anything more than a computer screen.
 
That was never widely reported. The furthest it went was McKenzie saying some European scouts prefer Laine.

I respected Pronman's opinion on the manner, but I'd be shocked if McKeen's actually scouted Laine from anything more than a computer screen.

TSN Senior reporter Frank Seravalli reported that Director Of European Scouting Ari Vuori made a strong case to pick Laine.

Since you brought it up.



I think the key words here are a Number and all season long. Not just playoffs.
 
TSN Senior reporter Frank Seravalli reported that Director Of European Scouting Ari Vuori made a strong case to pick Laine.
Post the link.

Edit: I assume you are talking about this. Realize, everything Seravalli said it reported as an assumption and he makes that clear multiple times. Nothing like the definitve claim you made. But great job of either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what Seravalli said.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=118299069&postcount=386
 
TSN Senior reporter Frank Seravalli reported that Director Of European Scouting Ari Vuori made a strong case to pick Laine.

Since you brought it up.



I think the key words here are a Number and all season long. Not just playoffs.

You are trying to play it off as either a significant number or a consensus, which just hasn't been reported. Your statements about Vuori are just incorrect.

Either way this is far from over, Jets fans enjoy Laine, he's a great player who is ridiculously exciting. But some misrepresentations here just have to be addressed.
 
Post the link.

Edit: I assume you are talking about this. Realize, everything Seravalli said it reported as an assumption and he makes that clear multiple times. Nothing like the definitve claim you made. But great job of either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what Seravalli said.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=118299069&postcount=386

I already said to you back in summer that Vuori has been praising Laine pretty publically in Finland.

He is a big figure here and especially in Turku where Laine trains during the summer and it's not a secret that Vuori was all over the world on Laine.
 
I already said to you back in summer that Vuori has been praising Laine pretty publically in Finland.
You can praise Laine and still have been on-board with the Matthews pick. They aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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Post the link.

Edit: I assume you are talking about this. Realize, everything Seravalli said it reported as an assumption and he makes that clear multiple times. Nothing like the definitve claim you made. But great job of either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what Seravalli said.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=118299069&postcount=386

Here is the entire quote so you cannot misrepresent it. Seravalli states the list was not unanimous. This is a fact. Now unless you believe there was another player that was rated #1 by Vuori, it is not that hard to deduce that player was Laine. You will have a hard case to make there was another player that could have gone #1 in the draft.

It’s believed a consensus was reached on an early draft list, but that doesn’t mean it was unanimous. Maple Leafs director of European scouting Ari Vuori may have made a strong case for Toronto to select Finnish sniper Patrik Laine ahead of Matthews.
 
Here is the entire quote so you cannot misrepresent it. Seravalli states the list was not unanimous. This is a fact. Now unless you believe there was another player that was rated #1 by Vuori, it is not that hard to deduce that player was Laine. You will have a hard case to make there was another player that could have gone #1 in the draft.
No, you flat out are inferring things that aren't there. It could of been Ladygin, Bergman or even a NA scout. You are the one saying it is Vuori, with no proof outside of an assumption and leap of faith. It also never said it wasn't a consensus. I sometimes wonder if you can actually comprehend things in text. It clearly states "that doesn't mean it was a consensus." That is not a definitive statement.
 
Read the quote again.
Do you not understand the difference between someone saying. "It may not have been unanimous" and "it wasn't unanimous" there is a clear difference. No statement made by Seravelli was definitive reporting. But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative. I'm done with you, I have no interest in continuing this ridiculous argument with you, other posters can read the text for themselves and come to a reasonable conclusion. But to claim Seravalli statement is definitive is a gross misrepresentation.

To the rest of the posters here. Enjoy Laine, he's had an amazing start to his career. I have been very impressed by the goals he got yesterday (and the tip on the weekend) because he is showing a willingness to get dirty goals which will be key if he wants to become the best goal-scorer in the league.
 
Should have been the #1 overall pick all along and is showing why.

I thought he'd score 40 goals as a rookie and it looks like I underestimated him.
 
Matthews fans were told not overreact etc when Matthews was dominating Laine in points and goals etc because it was a small sample size but now that the tables have turned people are doing the same thing with Laine.
 
You can praise Laine still been on-board with the Matthews pick. They aren't mutually exclusive.

[...and later]

...But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative. I'm done with you, I have no interest in continuing this ridiculous argument with you...

Sorry for picking some berries partially out of their context.

First. Excellent! My first Personal encounter with leafs and AM fan that doesn't live in complete denial. Indeed! They aren't mutually exclusive. One can enjoy several players beyond team limits without having forced to take fanatic-to-the-idiocy stance.

Latter part of the quote is just for noting that there was hellish amount of things that didn't fit to various Toronto-based narratives. But that itself doesn't mean I would be done with you particularly.

Laine is now feeding some hats for certain group of your reference base, Mr. 93LEAFS. Nothing personal. :)
 
Matthews fans were told not overreact etc when Matthews was dominating Laine in points and goals etc because it was a small sample size but now that the tables have turned people are doing the same thing with Laine.

I agree that there's always a few, but the sample size keeps getting bigger. So lets see. Will be interesting to see how Laine keeps up with this pace. I'm not quite sure in what point Matthews dominated Laine in points, except for the first game. AM hasn't had huge nights after that 4 goal game. Everyone waited for him to continue like he did in Ottawa, but didn't really happen. And that's okay. I personally don't like comparing the two. Just because they play different and we should just appreciate the NHL has both of them. These are guys that light up a whole team.

Close to gpg is absolutely insane in todays NHL.
 
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