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LW Michael Dal Colle (2014, 5th, NYI)

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He's got to be one of the quietest top prospects in a while.

General curiosity: how many players typically reach 40 goals in a season?
 
Riseonfire said:
He's got to be one of the quietest top prospects in a while.

General curiosity: how many players typically reach 40 goals in a season?
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I think it is pretty common. A quick glance at each CHL league for this year shows that there are:
11 in the QMJHL with 4-5 players who can reach 40 before the season is done
9 in the OHL with 3-4 players who can reach 40 before the season is done
6 in the WHL with 4-5 players who can reach 40 before the season is done.

So, so far 26 playesr (including MDC) have reached 40 goals this year, but that number could maybe reach upwards to 30-35 players if all those who current have 36-39 goals reach 40.
 
Riseonfire said:
General curiosity: how many players typically reach 40 goals in a season?
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In junior, it's not nearly as rare or as special as in the NHL. Not that it's not a nice achievement, just that it's a lot more common in juniors than you'll find at the NHL level.

In terms of achievement relative to rarity, 40 goal scorers in junior would probably equate to how impressive it is to hit 30 goals at the NHL level.

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As to Dal Colle and the lack of discussion, I think it's because he's not a flashy player. HF, in general, seems to fall in love with prospects who rack up Youtube video highlights and play a flash-and-dash type of game. Dal Colle simply produces, but likely won't make many highlight clips doing so.

He's one of the best prospects out there. He's simply not flashy enough to satisfy HF's fancy, IMO.
 
Every Isles prospect gets little attention here until they're called up and playing well and then they're the subject of endless trades to Toronto for cannon fodder.
 
Sidney the Kidney said:
In junior, it's not nearly as rare or as special as in the NHL. Not that it's not a nice achievement, just that it's a lot more common in juniors than you'll find at the NHL level.

In terms of achievement relative to rarity, 40 goal scorers in junior would probably equate to how impressive it is to hit 30 goals at the NHL level.

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As to Dal Colle and the lack of discussion, I think it's because he's not a flashy player. HF, in general, seems to fall in love with prospects who rack up Youtube video highlights and play a flash-and-dash type of game. Dal Colle simply produces, but likely won't make many highlight clips doing so.

He's one of the best prospects out there. He's simply not flashy enough to satisfy HF's fancy, IMO.
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How good of an NHLer do you think he can be?

Any bust potential? (please say no)
 
SLAPSHOT723 said:
How good of an NHLer do you think he can be?

Any bust potential? (please say no)
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At the risk of stating the obvious, any player could bust. With Dal Colle, I don't think the odds are high, though. He's got too much natural ability and too much hockey sense to be an outright bust (ie. not even be an NHL player).

In terms of impact/productivity at the NHL level, I flip back and forth between comparisons, but as a general projection I'd say somewhere similar to Max Pacioretty or Bobby Ryan would be where I expect him to be if he pans out. In other words, a shooter but who is also good at making plays. High-end, maybe Corey Perry-like production (minus the antagonism/net front game).
 
RickyR said:
Mdc is one of the strangest prospects ive seen here... piles up points and nearly no discussion ever. Gets passed on Wjc...

One of the most ignored top prospects hands down.
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People talk about Dal Colle, he got passed on the WJC cause he wasnt good enough. Who talks about Strome Lindholm or Neidereitter when they got drafted 5th.
 
Linden said:
I doubt it. He doesn't have much more to learn at the OHL level anymore imo
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He still needs to put on some weight. And he can still round out his defensive game, as well.

He's not AHL-eligible yet, so he'd have to stick with the NHL club. And I don't know if the Islanders have a roster spot for him with their current depth up front. Sending him back to junior would allow him to work on his overall game, gain strength/weight, as well as the confidence/experience from the WJC.

Four years of junior worked wonders for Ryan Strome's all-around game. So I'm not sure why the Isles wouldn't be tempted to allow Dal Colle to follow a similar career path.
 
Sidney the Kidney said:
He still needs to put on some weight. And he can still round out his defensive game, as well.

He's not AHL-eligible yet, so he'd have to stick with the NHL club. And I don't know if the Islanders have a roster spot for him with their current depth up front. Sending him back to junior would allow him to work on his overall game, gain strength/weight, as well as the confidence/experience from the WJC.

Four years of junior worked wonders for Ryan Strome's all-around game. So I'm not sure why the Isles wouldn't be tempted to allow Dal Colle to follow a similar career path.
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I think MDC is back in juniors next year. The islanders are very patient with their prospects. Reinhart, Pulock, Strome, Nelson, Lee, Dehaan all had signifcant time in the minors. MDC will have to have an excellent camp just to be considered.
 
Linden said:
I doubt it. He doesn't have much more to learn at the OHL level anymore imo
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Sure he does.

Captain his team, play a key role for Team Canada, Dominate and prove he is pro ready.

He does have a lot more to prove in Jr. He isn't the type of player that I would see it hindering his game.
 
RickyR said:
Okay.....

no.
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I like you, you're nice.

Sidney the Kidney said:
At the risk of stating the obvious, any player could bust. With Dal Colle, I don't think the odds are high, though. He's got too much natural ability and too much hockey sense to be an outright bust (ie. not even be an NHL player).

In terms of impact/productivity at the NHL level, I flip back and forth between comparisons, but as a general projection I'd say somewhere similar to Max Pacioretty or Bobby Ryan would be where I expect him to be if he pans out. In other words, a shooter but who is also good at making plays. High-end, maybe Corey Perry-like production (minus the antagonism/net front game).
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Awesome, that's what I've read and I'm happy that someone who watches him regularly thinks that. I've heard James Neal too, but I guess he's in the same category.

Johnny Hoxville said:
Is he back in Jr. next year?
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Most likely, maybe gets his 9 games but he's definitely on track to go back. Although a LW to play with JT and Okposo is our biggest need on the roster, but another year of development for him can't hurt.
 
The Isles already have 11 forwards under contract next year, plus Lee and Strome are RFAs.

The only way Dal Colle makes the team next year is to flat out dominate in training camp and over a 9 game tryout. He needs to not just belong, but be so much better than some other forwards that it would be worth burning a year of his ELC.
 
SLAPSHOT723 said:
Awesome, that's what I've read and I'm happy that someone who watches him regularly thinks that. I've heard James Neal too, but I guess he's in the same category.
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I don't use the Neal comparison mainly because Neal's one of those guys that doesn't really create on his own, but can be outright deadly if he's with an elite playmaker who can feed him pucks. I think Dal Colle has more ability than Neal to manufacture chances on his own, or to manufacture chances for his linemates.

The shooting aspect of their games, I can see the comparison. Both have the knack for finding that open space, and both have the wicked and quick releases on their shots to turn even a fraction of a second of free time into a goal. But the other aspects of the game, I think MDC projects (being the key word) to be a lot more well rounded.
 
why does nobody talk about this guy? are there glaring issues that people think are going to hold him back at the next level or something?
 
Nealssens said:
why does nobody talk about this guy? are there glaring issues that people think are going to hold him back at the next level or something?
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He needs to get stronger and bigger if he wants to be a star at the NHL level , thats about it though, basically that and just consistent compete level. He is still kind of raw, one more year of junior + ahl and i could easily see him having a Strome level impact when hes 21/22.
 
Icebreakers said:
He needs to get stronger and bigger if he wants to be a star at the NHL level , thats about it though, basically that and just consistent compete level. He is still kind of raw, one more year of junior + ahl and i could easily see him having a Strome level impact when hes 21/22.
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Yup. I think this is the right way to bring him along too.

MDC is going to be a good NHL'er, but this is definitely the kind of guy you don't want to rush. He needs to be at least as strong as the average NHL'er in order to make the kind of impact he's capable of. Isle's learned their lesson with Nino, they're not going to make the same mistake twice.
 
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