LW Arthur Kaliyev (2019, 33rd, LAK)
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Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
I'll have him in the 5-7 range most likely.
Behind Kakko, Hughes, Byram, Dach for sure.
Pavel Buchnevich
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10-15 range.
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Kaliyev and Dach both have the same intensity issues, but one should take note that Kaliyev is actually quite intelligent. He knows where to be in order to score goals and anticipates where his opponents will be in order to sneak into the best available openings. He also positions himself well enough that he can pressure the opposing puck carrier and push them off of the puck.
Dach is a pure playmaker. Playmakers drive the offense with their vision, passes, and ability to create room for their teammates. Intensity issues, I feel, could really hamper his effectiveness.
I think Dach will be a Top 10 player as a huge center with high-end puck skills. Kaliyev, on the other hand, is not a player who drives play, but he works well with smart, quick players. He is a very gifted shooter.
A player like Elias Pettersson would work wonders with Kaliyev on his right side. Depending on which players are available, I think Kaliyev would be a realistic option to consider.
DANOZ28
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at #12 if my wild don't pick newhook who fills our biggest need i really hope we pick at kaliyev. his shot is deadly accurate and i'd compare him to prime vanek.
Still like my comparison with Vanek from a year ago. Glad that other people agree.
I would even say that Kaliyev has a better one-timer than Vanek, but obviously less hand-eye/shot deviation/around-the-net skills than Vanek, who was the best in the business in his prime and still is among the top players in the NHL for that with JVR, Crosby, Tavares, etc.
People are going to regret passing on him for more "hard working" players in the end. Kaliyev/Vanek kind of player can make a mediocre powerplay become potent, which is kind of important.
We'll see, I guess!
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'Cause he's a big 'ole traiter! He crossed the border to play hockey, that traiter!
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I think Kaliyev suffers from not being as good as his hype originally, but not as bad as he’s being made out to be right now either.
While he won’t be a franchise winger, he should still be a solid top 6 wingers. He still posses elite offensive instincts, and with the right line ages I could see him developing into a top line player. I love the Vanek comparison TBH.
If I was a franchise like Vancouver I’d take a deep look at Kaliyev and see if his play style meshes with Petterson or Horvat.
While he won’t be a franchise winger, he should still be a solid top 6 wingers. He still posses elite offensive instincts, and with the right line ages I could see him developing into a top line player. I love the Vanek comparison TBH.
If I was a franchise like Vancouver I’d take a deep look at Kaliyev and see if his play style meshes with Petterson or Horvat.
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Hmmm... seems to me that he wasn't getting hyped all that much, then it got to the point that his point totals couldn't be ignored, or explained away. He's got OHL numbers that put him in elite company. Pair that with a 6'2" frame, a great shot, and an uncanny ability to create offense, and a scouting staff would be remiss to not at least consider picking him in the top 10, let alone the top 15.
If he was a RHS he would be one of the two players I would want my offence starved team to pick at #12, but he is yet another LHS, and we are swimming in them.
Oh, and I don't see the Vanek comparison, at all. He was more of an gifted, supremely skilled guy who happened to score a lot than a traditional sniper. Thought hockey in an odd, unusual way. Kaliyev seems more traditional.
If he was a RHS he would be one of the two players I would want my offence starved team to pick at #12, but he is yet another LHS, and we are swimming in them.
Oh, and I don't see the Vanek comparison, at all. He was more of an gifted, supremely skilled guy who happened to score a lot than a traditional sniper. Thought hockey in an odd, unusual way. Kaliyev seems more traditional.
Pavel Buchnevich
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He didn't play at the WJC18 because almost all of the players on the team are from the NTDP. They took one player that wasn't from the NTDP. Most of the best non-NTDP American players aren't going to be picked. Players who play in the program for two years are almost always going to get a spot. We never take the best 23 players. Thats not how USA Hockey operates with selecting the WJC18 roster.
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Most of the best players play in the program. That’s a big tournament for those guys and the program and it wouldn’t be right to subtract a bunch of guys from the lineup in favor of CHL guys.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I disagree. Pick the best players.
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If the goal is to win, which I believe it is, there is an inherent advantage to having players who play together regularly play together in tournaments. Cohesion is extremely important in team play and hockey is a team sport. Adding more than one or two players to the team may cause a loss of that advantage and adding a “better” player, especially one who may not fit the structure or system of the team, may actually hinder the chances of winning. On the surface this may seem counterintuitive, but is based in reality and historical precedence.
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I just don´t understand how this guy can be ranked late 1st. I simply cannot remember a player with his physical attributes and offensive credentials to be ranked late first on so many lists. Usually, if they do, they have huge skating issues. Perhaps it can be accredited to the strength and depth of this upcoming draft? Either way, in my opinion, this guy has technical qualities that are hard to come by. I wish him luck, excited to follow him.
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Mantha was a big 50 goal scorer and dropped to pick 20 in his draft year because of similar concerns (compete level).
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And Mantha was a late birthday, so even he's an imperfect comparison.
Kaliyev should be picked in the top half of the first round, but he'll inevitably slip.
DANOZ28
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i think keiffer bellows had 50G in the ushl and got drafted #19 ; kaliyev having 50G in the ohl at his age should put him higher than that. i cant see how Arizona passes on him at #14.
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