LW Anthony Mantha (2013, 20th, DET) II

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Getting cut was a surprise to no one. If he's lighting up the AHL this season except some call-ups throughout the season. Getting cut had more to do with Detroit's depth at forward than Mantha's preseason/training camp.

And their development philosophy
 
I would usually be worried about 2 pts in 7 games... But when you look at our other top 2 prospects on the griffins they are doing the same or worse Athanasiou has the same Stat line, bertuzzi has only one point. The whole team is hot garbage right now and if they ever figure their issues out I'd expect their point totals to start rising

The griffins just need to hit the reset button or something
 
I would usually be worried about 2 pts in 7 games... But when you look at our other top 2 prospects on the griffins they are doing the same or worse Athanasiou has the same Stat line, bertuzzi has only one point. The whole team is hot garbage right now and if they ever figure their issues out I'd expect their point totals to start rising

The griffins just need to hit the reset button or something

I don't think he'll bust but I think the expectations need to be dialed back big time. That huge season he had in junior is likely a bit of an anomaly
 
Last year people were saying he was not scoring because of the rapids depth and now its because of a lack of depth?
 
Last year people were saying he was not scoring because of the rapids depth and now its because of a lack of depth?

They are struggling badly. 1-6 record and they've only scored 10 goals in those 7 games, which is the worst of any AHL team.

I haven't seen much from them but I wouldn't expect them to stay that bad in terms of goal scoring.

With that said, Mantha is probably not going to be the kind of player people expected out of Junior, which is that big player that can score a lot of goals. A bit early to say he's a bust but I think his NHL potential is definitely in question.
 
Last year people were saying he was not scoring because of the rapids depth and now its because of a lack of depth?

People said he was only at .5 PPG because of his broken leg that derailed the start of his season, which threw him off for a while

You are making things up and putting words into people's mouths.
 
Depends what you consider a bust. Will he fall short of making the NHL? Hard to say. Will he be a top line scoring winger likes Wings fans were screaming he would be? Seems unlikely at this point.
 
People said he was only at .5 PPG because of his broken leg that derailed the start of his season

You are making things up and putting words into people's mouths.
No i remember both being used particularly toward the end of the year when they were playing the marlies in the playoffs.
 
People said he was only at .5 PPG because of his broken leg that derailed the start of his season, which threw him off for a while

You are making things up and putting words into people's mouths.
Here's two quotes I grabbed just by glancing the main boards thread, I'm not making anything up.

It's been a rough season for him relative to people's expectations. Anytime he started to develop chemistry with someone like Nosek or AA they'd get hurt and miss a lot of time. He's not getting the minutes he needs to score, certainly not on the powerplay, but that's because Blashill is tough on him with his play in his own end.

It's a combination coaching/depth issue. For most of the year, Mantha has been saddled with mediocre linemates (by AHL standards) that he doesn't mesh with. He was showing some promising chemistry with Andreas Athanasiou, but AA got injured and Mantha has been pretty quiet since.

But I say there's a coaching issue because there's a lot of round peg square hole type coaching going on. Mantha doesn't do well with linemates X and Y? Let's play him with them until he does! and so on.

In the games I've seen, he's been pretty good. He has flashes of crazy gamebreaking skill, and his skating is very good. He still floats a bit at times, and I think that's another reason why coach Blashill is giving him a hard time.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1645737
 
Mantha looked great in pre-season with the Wings and has been the Griffins best forward in the games I've watched. That entire team is just struggling on a similar level as the Ducks have been in the NHL. Everyone's stats are bad and their sh% is awful. Either every single player on that team is not good enough for the AHL or this stuff will normalize and they'll start scoring/winning.
 
Pretty much.

Welcome at HF.
Nah no one is saying lack of depth is why he's not scoring. That team is just in a massive slump from top to bottom so far. It happens, they have a new coach and it's only been 7 games.

Corey Perry has 4 points in 12 games, I guess he is done as a player?
 
If he's still at this kind of pace halfway through the season I'll be worried. Way too small of a sample size to call him anything close to a bust yet.
 
Nah no one is saying lack of depth is why he's not scoring. That team is just in a massive slump from top to bottom so far. It happens, they have a new coach and it's only been 7 games.

Corey Perry has 4 points in 12 games, I guess he is done as a player?

It isn't just seven games though. He also only had 33 in 62 games last season. Had 4 points in 16 playoff game as well.
 
Nah no one is saying lack of depth is why he's not scoring. That team is just in a massive slump from top to bottom so far. It happens, they have a new coach and it's only been 7 games.
Last thing I noticed is that Mantha is playing for that team too. He's allowed to score goals.


Personally I have nothing against the kid and who knows what happens in the future. Its just the stuff from fans who always find reasons why somebody isnt performing. Lets admit, most expected a lot more last season too.
 
Last thing I noticed is that Mantha is playing for that team too. He's allowed to score goals.


Personally I have nothing against the kid and who knows what happens in the future. Its just the stuff from fans who always find reasons why somebody isnt performing. Lets admit, most expected a lot more last season too.
It's one thing if he specifically wasn't performing. But even good teams and good players fall into slumps. The Griffins are averaging almost 35 SOG/game (2nd in the league) but less than 1.5 Goals/game(2nd to last in the league). Their sh% is unsustainably low, and Mantha leads the team in SOG to boot. Something's gotta give.

Last year was a disappointment from him but if you actually look at his play he is much improved. Expect his numbers to shoot up eventually.
 
He was great in the preseason and the whole team is having a bad start down there. Do you think no one on Grand Rapids is going to make the NHL? Because none of them are scoring right now, could be the new coach I'm not sure. Mantha has been their best forward in the games I've watched though which makes me less worried.
 
He is playing better than he was last year. The team as a whole is struggling right now and Mantha is only shooting at a 4.8% clip. He is the teams best forward right now but overall the results are disappointing. The talent is clearly there and he has improved on last year; he is averaging 3 shots a game which is good and an improvement on last year.
 
Mantha has been fine. Another example of how bad scoreboard scouting can be sometimes. The points aren't there yet but he's a much better player than he was last year. Also not too long ago he was lighting up the preseason with the rest of the young guys, so sample sizes, statistically, go both ways. He is going to be a realgud player if he can keep filling out and improving his strength.
 
He just turned 21 also. Too early to give up on his tools. If he busts so what? Detroit already has two first line wingers in Nyquist and Tatar. Detroit has plenty of wingers. It's nbd if Mantha doesn't make it to the big show. He was always a long shot based on his draft position anyway...
 
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Like any other fan base wouldn't hype the hell out of their first round draft pick who happened to win CHL player of the year in his post draft year.

He hasn't played well and most people's expectations aren't as high anymore. He's rarely even talked about by most Wings fans. He surely is not hyped by Wings fans anymore. I don't know why your saying they do. They used too, but definitely not since he hit the AHL. And one or two Wings homers don't represent the whole fanbase. I'm sure you know that all too well as a Leafs fan on HF.

He just turned 21 also. Too early to give up on his tools. If he busts so what? Detroit already has two first line wingers in Nyquist and Tatar. Detroit has plenty of wingers. It's nbd if Mantha doesn't make it to the big show. He was always a long shot based on his draft position anyway...
It was more people saying last year he wasn't succeeding due too much depth and his year isn't succeeding due to lack of depth. And that guy brought up Nylander vs Larkin as a reasoning i'm bringing this up when it had nothing to do with this.
 

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