Value of: Luke Glendening to Montreal

[Hockeyfannnn91]

Red Wing fans need to temper their expectations. It is more than likely that no GM has interest in trading for Glenny. The market for 4C is very light.

The only playoff team that could potentially use him are the Habs. And I doubt MB would offer much more than a 3rd and low level prospect (like Mcshane).

Redwing fan dreans of netting Brook/Romanov are pipe dreams.

Babcocks been begging for leafs to get him since he left , I can tell you one thing gm’s are sure as shit more interested in him than your garbage 4th line players

Nobody wants your mcshane .... I don’t even want your garbage players , last team I’d want to make a trade with are the habs , I’m from mtl and I deal enough with the delusional habs fans

 

[MXD]

If so, then why are we giving more than the Wings are asking for?

I was just "educating" (for a lack of a better word) a Wings poster.
I mean, if you draft a Jake Evans clone with a 2nd rounder in 2019, you're probably a very happy GM. He's obviously not, say... Patrice Bergeron or Shea Weber, but you get the point. The 3rd is just gravy.

 

[Hockeyfannnn91]

Preds are a cup contender who traded a 2nd for a better player than Glenny.

Habs are not a cup contender and won’t trade anything close to a better 2nd round pick (than the Preds) for a lesser player.

Glenny is a mediocre asset. A dime a dozen nhler. You pick those guys up for cheap in The offseason.

If that’s true your fourth line wouldn’t be complete waste of garbage

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Babcocks been begging for leafs to get him since he left , I can tell you one thing gm’s are sure as **** more interested in him than your garbage 4th line players

Nobody wants your mcshane .... I don’t even want your garbage players , last team I’d want to make a trade with are the habs , I’m from mtl and I deal enough with the delusional habs fans

LOL! So we agree that the Habs would not deal away valuable players and oucks for 4C level players like Glenny.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

If that’s true your fourth line wouldn’t be complete waste of garbage

Our 4th line plays like a 4th line. 9 minutes of hockey.

 

[Hockeyfannnn91]

I was just "educating" (for a lack of a better word) a Wings poster.
I mean, if you draft a Jake Evans clone with a 2nd rounder in 2019, you're probably a very happy GM. He's obviously not, say... Patrice Bergeron or Shea Weber, but you get the point. The 3rd is just gravy.

Jake Evans is gonna be 23 and still likely gonna be in the ahl next season point of getting a 2nd instead of a 3rd is to move 30 spots and get someone your high on

 

[Hockeyfannnn91]

Our 4th line plays like a 4th line. 9 minutes of hockey.

Translation , they suck

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Translation , they suck

Translation: They play average 4th line hockey.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Exactly- you aren’t getting Josh Brook for free.

Josh Brook is off the market for sure.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Lmao Boyle just got dealt for a second and glendening has term left and is a penalty killer and wins faceoff plays with a lot of grit which your team lacks ... if you think we’re givng him away for free than maybe your the one who needs to upgrade your hockey iq

nobody is saying for free but not top prospects.

How about a similar offer as for Boyle: 2nd+3rd

if you guys absolutely want a prospect it would be a B/C type prospect: Ikonen, Evans, Fleury, Walford, Hillis, Harris, Olofsson etc.

Not Romanov, Brook, Suzuki, Poehling.

Would the wings trade Veleno for Lehkonen or Armia? But they are amazing third liners some of the best in the NHL. No.

 

[Tatar Shots]

nobody is saying for free but not top prospects.

How about a similar offer as for Boyle: 2nd+3rd

if you guys absolutely want a prospect it would be a B/C type prospect: Ikonen, Evans, Fleury, Walford, Hillis, Harris, etc.

Not Romanov, Brook, Suzuki, Poehling.

Would the wings trade Veleno for Lehkonen or Armia? But they are amazing third liners some of the best in the NHL. No.

You are not wrong. But when Wings management replies with we don't want to trade him, the asking price does become ridiculous. For example, last year the rumor was that they may have asked for Kapanen for Glendening. Obviously you are going to get told to pound sand, but it is the response you are expecting when you don't actually want to trade the player.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Ugh why do people still think the Wings have no cap space? They have plenty of cap space this year and well over 20 million come the off-season.

Don't understand why this myth exists when it is so easy to just look it up before posting.

huh? The Wings have 0 cap space right now. They literally cannot trade for Glendening for Petry unless some other moves are made. Offseason yes they can. Currently they cannot because they have 0 cap space. Not sure where you are getting that they have plenty of cap space this year (i.e. now).

 

[Hockeyfannnn91]

nobody is saying for free but not top prospects.

How about a similar offer as for Boyle: 2nd+3rd

if you guys absolutely want a prospect it would be a B/C type prospect: Ikonen, Evans, Fleury, Walford, Hillis, Harris, Olofsson etc.

Not Romanov, Brook, Suzuki, Poehling.

Would the wings trade Veleno for Lehkonen or Armia? But they are amazing third liners some of the best in the NHL. No.

Ya don’t think we’re good trading partners, s’all good

 

[Hobnobs]

Glendening is better than a 4th liner tbh. Thats why Detroit doesnt want to trade him.

Asking for Kapanen from the Leafs or similar is obviously not going to happen but its going to take an overpayment to pry him from the wings.

 

[Prairie Habs]

I hope most Detroit fans are more rational and don't expect a top prospect for their 4C. It mostly appears to just be one or two crazies in this thread.

 

[ricky0034]

Here’s the thing- when evaluating player development you take into consideration their attributes and performance.

Romanov is playing solid minutes in the KHL - the 2nd bedt pro league that is far more challenging than junior. He was voted the best dman in a best on best prolific junior tournament .

Those achievements at 18 years old are exceptional. Its not a guarantee that he will be a star NHLer. But its a good indicator of the future.

The original point was that asking for Romanov in a trade for a 4C is idiotic and beneath the integrity of a serious Hf poster.

yeah his 3 points in 37 games are super impressive

 

[Tatar Shots]

I hope most Detroit fans are more rational and don't expect a top prospect for their 4C. It mostly appears to just be one or two crazies in this thread.

I don't think anyone expects a top prospect in return or for Glendening to be traded. Also, he is Detroit's 3C this year.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

yeah his 3 points in 37 games are super impressive

In a professional mens's league - that is impressive as an 18 year old dman. So was his 8 pts in 7 games at the WJHC. Best in the tournament and voted best dman. A best on best tournament to boot.

Yep, we'll keep our bluechipper and you keep your 4C. lol

 

[domiwroze]

Jesus Christ. I knew that the Boyle's return would boost Redwings expectation as sellers but this is plain ridiculous asking for prospect like Brooks and Romanov.

Most of you are up for some disappointment.

I also thought that a 3rd pick + Evans would be quite a good return for Glendening. Evans should pan to be a good bottom 6 player like Glendening and you have a mid 3rd round pick on top of it.

To wings asking why would we want to move 3rd+evans instead of a 2nd pick ( since 3rd+evans > 2nd ) ; We have a good depth of centers and Poehling is coming in next year. Domi-Danault-Kotkaniemi-Poehling-Glendening

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Jesus Christ. I knew that the Boyle's return would boost Redwings expectation as sellers but this is plain ridiculous asking for prospect like Brooks and Romanov.

Most of you are up for some disappointment.

I also thought that a 3rd pick + Evans would be quite a good return for Glendening. Evans should pan to be a good bottom 6 player like Glendening and you have a mid 3rd round pick on top of it.

To wings asking why would we want to move 3rd+evans instead of a 2nd pick ( since 3rd+evans > 2nd ) ; We have a good depth of centers and Poehling is coming in next year. Domi-Danault-Kotkaniemi-Poehling-Glendening

I thought it was only Leaf fans that overrated / overhyped their 4th line players and bottom pairing dmen. Clearly that's not the case. There must be something in the Great Lakes waters that inspires unabashed optimism and homerism.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Glendening would be a great addition to any playoff team. A team would have to offer a pretty big overpayment though in order for Holland to pull the trigger on trading him.

 

[Mister Ed]

I means there's no reason to trade Glendening. He's still young (29) and is signed for a measly 1.8M this year and 2 more after.
He's not an anchor like Abdelkader.

17th in the league in FO taken
8th in the league with FOW% (400+ FO)
37th in hits
1st in blocked shots by a FW

So you can understand that it would take an over payment to get him off the Red Wings. Romanov or Brooks shouldn't be mentioned as returns, though.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Glendening would be a great addition to any playoff team. A team would have to offer a pretty big overpayment though in order for Holland to pull the trigger on trading him.

Would Romanov or Josh Brook be enough?

 

[Amadeus]

If Brian Boyle got a 2nd then I think Glendening nets a 2nd too. He is a better player in my books.

 

[Vachon23]

Leafs will try hard to grab him to so the price can be high