Player Discussion Lukas Dostal

[ducks8]

Hopefully he doesn't have another November/December like he did last year. But the dude has been a complete beast so far. Really the biggest reason the ducks have any wins so far

 

[70sSanO]

If Dostal turns out to be the real deal, my only concern is keeping him.

I doubt Dostal wants to go the Gibson route where he faces 40 shots a game in a losing effort.

We still have time to shore things up, but the Ducks have to spend more time in the O zone and protect Lukas a lot more on defense. Just clearing the puck would go a long way.

John

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Early Vezina candidate!

 

[slippingsloth]

Early Vezina candidate!

95% save percentage. 2gaa. Average 40sog 38 saves per night. Record 22 - 30
Can you win a vezina with a losing record?
That sums my concern for ducks season. No way dostal holds these numbers if we cant win him some and give him some 25 sog nights

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

95% save percentage. 2gaa. Average 40sog 38 saves per night. Record 22 - 30
Can you win a vezina with a losing record?
That sums my concern for ducks season. No way dostal holds these numbers if we cant win him some and give him some 25 sog nights

I don’t think any goalie has won the Vezina with a personal losing record, but goalies of some pretty mediocre teams have won it. Beezer was one, Jose Theodore. A number of Hasek’s teams were just ok. I’m sure there are more.

 

[FlyingV09]

His numbers aren’t sustainable, and at some point fatigue will set in with the workload he gets every game. If they could keep it to even 30 shots per game instead of 40+, that would be a big improvement.

Hopefully Gibson can give him the odd night off when he gets back, as I don’t see Gibby taking the starters net back anytime soon.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don’t think any goalie has won the Vezina with a personal losing record, but goalies of some pretty mediocre teams have won it. Beezer was one, Jose Theodore. A number of Hasek’s teams were just ok. I’m sure there are more.

Looks like the worst records for Vezina winners were

Theodore (2001/02)
30-24-10

Hasek (1994/95)
19-14-7

Hasek (1998/99)
30-18-14

Then you have a whole bunch that were slightly better than that. A lot of years where the winner had around twice as many wins as losses/ties/OTL, definitely more common than being anywhere near .500

 

[Masch78]

Was Hiller that toxic? I don’t really remember that for some reason.

He was very vocal in interviews blaming the team in front of him. I loved him but for me this was always way over the top.

 

[Raistlin]

does it look likely that he is not ready to take the reins from Gibson this year? how likely will it be a tandem going forward, or its pretty much a forgone conclusion that Gibson will be traded/dangled?

 

[lwvs84]

does it look likely that he is not ready to take the reins from Gibson this year? how likely will it be a tandem going forward, or its pretty much a forgone conclusion that Gibson will be traded/dangled?

No one is ready to take the net full time for the Ducks. Any goalie behind this defense is going to get worn out, there are just too many lapses and the other team possess the puck in the zone too much. Dostal is the better goalie now, but it'll likely be a tandem so that Dostal isn't ruined. Gibson will be available, but Ducks probably won't pay to get rid of him (no cap issues) and I'm not sure a team will pay enough for them to retain for 2.5 years. Best case for Dostal's development will be to split the net with Gibson until the team is better (or at least the defense is better). What ruined Gibson was the complete breakdown in front of him, his team giving up 40 shots per night and struggling to score goals at the other end.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Hiller was astounding during his time here. The slander around him at times here over the years was always annoying

 

[mightyquack]

Hiller was astounding during his time here. The slander around him at times here over the years was always annoying

Agreed. A legitimate top tier goaltender for a number of seasons, his 2010-11 season was one of the best I can remember from a Ducks goaltender especially given the defence ahead of him was basically Lubo/Lydman along with a rookie Fowler and a revolving door of Lilja, Mara and Sutton until Beauch arrived late in the season. f***ing Paul Mara playing 20 minutes a game.....what a time.

Not to mention the 2009 playoffs too was an all timer effort.

It's a shame that the vertigo just seemed to take an edge off his performance, was never quite the same afterwards.

 

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NHL Goalie Advanced Stats 2024-2025

NHL Goalie Analytics, Goals Saved Above Expected

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[Gliff]

NHL Goalie Advanced Stats 2024-2025

NHL Goalie Analytics, Goals Saved Above Expected

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Top 10 goalie in the league, and if I had to pick a goalie to start a franchise with it would be between him, Swayman, and Ottinger at the moment. All the other elite goalies are in or approaching their 30s.

Pretty good for a midget.

 

[imjustzach]

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I'm pretty confidant that Lukas is in the top 3 hunkiest goalies in the league, too. Key factor in Vezina voting.

 

[Vipers31]

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If you had told me that Lukas isn’t just a close stylistical comparable to Shesterkin, but also the closest statistical comparable to him before 2024 ends, I’d have considered that overly optimistic. Rather small sample, but still.