Post-Game Talk: Los Angeles Kings @ New York Rangers |Game 3| 6/9/14

[Crease]

Searing indictment of AV.

Maybe. I still think AV is a very good coach. Top 10 in the league. Hopefully this has been a learning experience for him, just like it will be for the players.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

When the Kings look at each other in the room, How confident do you think they are?

When the Rangers look at each other in the room, How confident do you think they are?

There ya go.

It was nice while it lasted, but this team needs some tweaking.

What?

I'm sure the Rangers were very confident, as they outplayed LA every game except yesterday.

Having the refs give the opposition a goal will zap some confidence, I reckon.

 

[NikC]

Good for Keenan. They deserve it. Bunch of (MOD) out there.

You're in the SCF!!!!!!!!

I can't believe what im seeing

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Searing indictment of AV.

AV is committed to his system and style of play. Thats not good all the time.

 

[Pizza]

What?

I'm sure the Rangers were very confident, as they outplayed LA every game except yesterday.

Having the refs give the opposition a goal will zap some confidence, I reckon.

Don't

Blame

The

Refs....and wind up sounding like some lame habs fan.

The Rangers came out and played like crap after establishing a lead in two games.

Give away after Give away followed by weak clearing attempts or bad dump ins followed by lack of skating.

It's mindset, preparation and experience. All of which were not up to snuff.

The refs are not in control of how strong we are on the puck, the decisions that are made with the puck.

This is on this team that was not ready for this. Clearly.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

All though the 1994 team was stacked, it took the play and drive of one of the greatest players in NHL history, Mark Messier, to break the curse.

Right now, our depth IS giving it their all. The players who are gifted with natural talent need to step up, or they should send their summer orders into Golfsmith.

 

[chosen]

AV is committed to his system and style of play. Thats not good all the time.

Not so much that even though I can't figure out why Richards still dresses. Keenan rips the attitude in the room. That should be AV''s job, and Keenan is ripping AV about just that.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Don't

Blame

The

Refs....and wind up sounding like some lame habs fan.

The Rangers came out and played like crap after establishing a lead in two games.

Give away after Give away followed by weak clearing attempts or bad dump ins followed by lack of skating.

It's mindset, preparation and experience. All of which were not up to snuff.

The refs are not in control of how strong we are on the puck, the decisions that are made with the puck.

This is on this team that was not ready for this. Clearly.

I'll blame the refs all I want. Turned a 2-1 series into a 3-0 series. It's not any better than your speculation about mindset and preparation and everything.

Amazing the team took a team that apparently outclasses them everywhere to 2 OT's, one in a game where THE REFS ****ed them. You talking about this Rangers team that worked its ass off all season not being ready despite taking the favored Kings to OT in game 1 and 2 is any better than "sounding like a Habs fan?"

I don't want to argue but I just don't understand that point of view. And don't get me started on the goons crying about mental toughness and whatnot (you're not one of them.)

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Maybe. I still think AV is a very good coach. Top 10 in the league. Hopefully this has been a learning experience for him, just like it will be for the players.

You'd think he would've learned in 2011 when the Bruins, after falling behind 2-0, steamrolled his team.

 

[OverTheCap]

AV is committed to his system and style of play. Thats not good all the time.

He has generally done a good job, but his in-game adjustments leave something to be desired. The PP has gone stale and has looked horrific for large stretches this postseason yet the same personnel and strategy are employed. And considering how Richards has struggled the last few games, I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world to double shift Brassard or Moore in his place at ES.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

I hate to say it but Keenan is dead on. The Kings' experience of knowing how to play in these games combined with turnovers, refs, and a tough luck game 3 is why we're down 3-0. They want it more than we do, and unfortunately that has been a problem running far longer than this series.

I'm proud of this team for making it this far and will still be be proud, sweep or not but it's certainly frustrating to think of the lost games in LA.

 

[Grifter3511]

This year in the playoffs, Quick has face 80 more shots than Lundqvist and has made 65 more saves. I also think you are selling him short saying take away one year and his stats are average.

Statistically it's kind of true.

Quick's second best season sv% wise would be Lundqvist's 7th best.

 

[Pizza]

I'll blame the refs all I want. Turned a 2-1 series into a 3-0 series. It's not any better than your speculation about mindset and preparation and everything.

Amazing the team took a team that apparently outclasses them everywhere to 2 OT's, one in a game where THE REFS ****ed them. You talking about this Rangers team that worked its ass off all season not being ready despite taking the favored Kings to OT in game 1 and 2 is any better than "sounding like a Habs fan?"

I don't want to argue but I just don't understand that point of view. And don't get me started on the goons crying about mental toughness and whatnot (you're not one of them.)

The Rangers fell apart after building a lead. Twice. That is what I mean by not being prepared. That's what I mean by not being ready. They played like a team that was surprised that the Kings come back. That is what the Kings are known for.

Bad calls against this team.....are eternal. It will always happen.

This is always the toughest step for a team trying to win a Cup. They fail to understand that being in the final really does demand that you take your game to yet another level.

As much as they looked ready going into this series and at times during games 1 & 2, they were really not ready....hence the shutout last night.

 

[Xref]

Sure, but having a 4-2 lead with 18 minutes to go in the game sets a significantly different tone than having a goal gifted to the opposing team with the entire period left to go.

I agree, the Rangers could've shut it down. But the Kings are here for a reason. Marian Gaborik is Marian Gaborik for a reason. If the Rangers are gifted a free goal in either of the first two games, it's a 2-1 series at the worst.

I'll accept that the Rangers deserve to be down in the series. Should've cashed in in OT and should've played actual hockey last night. But they don't deserve to be in a 3-0 hole.

The Rangers had every opportunity to make the score 5-3. They didn't, and the Kings took advantage of yet another gift to knot the score. This 3-0 hole is deserved. The Kings are pouncing on our mistakes to score goals. How's the saying go: "it isn't what you get, it's what you give up". I think every Kings goal came at the hands of a soft Ranger turnover.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

The Rangers fell apart after building a lead. Twice. That is what I mean by not being prepared. That's what I mean by not being ready. They played like a team that was surprised that the Kings come back. That is what the Kings are known for.

Bad calls against this team.....are eternal. It will always happen.

This is always the toughest step for a team trying to win a Cup. They fail to understand that being in the final really does demand that you take your game to yet another level.

As much as they looked ready going into this series and at times during games 1 & 2, they were really not ready....hence the shutout last night.

Game 1 was a gradual tidal wave from the Kings as the game went along.

I actually think the Rangers deserved to win game 2, but they didnt, and it was backbreaking.

Their play last night, despite shoveling a lot of shots on net on the PP, was questionable. I certainly did not feel like I was watching the first Stanley Cup Final game at MSG in 20 years. No urgency.

 

[Grifter3511]

Game 1 was a gradual tidal wave from the Kings as the game went along.

I actually think the Rangers deserved to win game 2, but they didnt, and it was backbreaking.

Their play last night, despite shoveling a lot of shots on net on the PP, was questionable. I certainly did not feel like I was watching the first Stanley Cup Final game at MSG in 20 years. No urgency.

Nor did it sound like it. At least on CBC. Crowd sounded nervous and quiet the whole game. New York was underwhelming on all fronts last night.

 

[Xref]

Good points being made; the Rangers may not have been ready for the Kings' resolve. Maybe our "Cup" was in simply getting to the SCF's, just like Montreal's "Cup" was in beating the Bruins. Their heads may not have been prepared for the next challenge. Interesting thought.

 

[Inferno]

Game 1 was a gradual tidal wave from the Kings as the game went along.

I actually think the Rangers deserved to win game 2, but they didnt, and it was backbreaking.

Their play last night, despite shoveling a lot of shots on net on the PP, was questionable. I certainly did not feel like I was watching the first Stanley Cup Final game at MSG in 20 years. No urgency.

they outchanced the Kings by a more than 2-1 margin from what i remember at the final scoresheet.

they had a ton of grade a chances. Quick was terrific, and the Kings did a great job of converting on their opportunities.

great teams find a way. but i dont think for 1 minute that there was a lack of urgency.

 

[Pizza]

You can boil the series down to Kreiders post in the OT of game two.

Nash makes the strong move to the net. Kreider sends it off the post.

Could have been a different series right there.

But my point is that it should NEVER have come to that. You can't keep going to that well and expect to keep drawing cool, sweet water.

The Rangers had it 2 - 0, 3 -1 then 4 - 2. They blew it plain and simple.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

they outchanced the Kings by a more than 2-1 margin from what i remember at the final scoresheet.

they had a ton of grade a chances. Quick was terrific, and the Kings did a great job of converting on their opportunities.

great teams find a way. but i dont think for 1 minute that there was a lack of urgency.

Its funny how "out-chancing" and shots on goal is only an indicator of a team playing really well when its the Rangers getting unlucky. I don't seem to remember any credit given to the Kings in game 1 when they peppered the Rangers with 43 shots, 20 in the 3rd period.

Tell me something - did the Kings really have any reason to attack after it was 1-0?

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

I don't understand plopping the blame on AV. AV has been the best thing about the Rangers this year. I don't know what you expect him to do with a marginal group of centers he has.

You want him to change their style in a Stanley cup final? Whats he going to do? Expect his forwards to grow an inch and 15 lbs so they can try to match forechecking with the Kings?

They are in the cup final partly because of their style. You can criticize him with keeping Richards on the PP. But AV has limited options. Removing Richards wasn't going to make our PP dramatically better. We would just have, perhaps, a bit more zone time.

They overachieved folks.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

You can boil the series down to Kreiders post in the OT of game two.

Nash makes the strong move to the net. Kreider sends it off the post.

Could have been a different series right there.

But my point is that it should NEVER have come to that. You can't keep going to that well and expect to keep drawing cool, sweet water.

The Rangers had it 2 - 0, 3 -1 then 4 - 2. They blew it plain and simple.

Or the breakaway, or the Zucc shot over the net, or the missed call when they threw it into the crowd (that didnt hit the glass) and they scored right after, or the missed interference penalty, or the...

The list goes on and on. Youre right, they didnt get the job done. Plain and simple.

 

[Xref]

they outchanced the Kings by a more than 2-1 margin from what i remember at the final scoresheet.

they had a ton of grade a chances. Quick was terrific, and the Kings did a great job of converting on their opportunities.

great teams find a way. but i dont think for 1 minute that there was a lack of urgency.

You can boil the series down to Kreiders post in the OT of game two.

Nash makes the strong move to the net. Kreider sends it off the post.

Could have been a different series right there.

But my point is that it should NEVER have come to that. You can't keep going to that well and expect to keep drawing cool, sweet water.

The Rangers had it 2 - 0, 3 -1 then 4 - 2. They blew it plain and simple.

When the Kings built a 2-goal lead, what did they do? They made it a 3-goal lead. THAT is what champions do. They smell blood and kill. The Rangers have not learned what it takes. Maybe this experience will teach them and prepare them for what lies ahead.

 

[Inferno]

Its funny how "out-chancing" and shots on goal is only an indicator of a team playing really well when its the Rangers getting unlucky. I don't seem to remember any credit given to the Kings in game 1 when they peppered the Rangers with 43 shots, 20 in the 3rd period.

Tell me something - did the Kings really have any reason to attack after it was 1-0?

really? because thata pretty much what everyone, including myself, talked about. how dominant the kings were in that 3rd period.

the kings arent a sit back and let you come in wave after wave team.

they are a puck possession forechecking team. youre out of your mind if you think that they sat back, as youre implying.

 

[Raspewtin]

All though the 1994 team was stacked, it took the play and drive of one of the greatest players in NHL history, Mark Messier, to break the curse.

Right now, our depth IS giving it their all. The players who are gifted with natural talent need to step up, or they should send their summer orders into Golfsmith.

I feel like it's this exact ****ing story every year.

Our depth are absolutely doing their part. They have arguably this whole run.

We can only go so long with Nash and Richards not scoring.