London Knights 2024-25 Season Thread, Part V

[BobHockey]

Way too much obstruction/interference allowed in hockey today to try and give less skilled teams a chance. Awful games like tonight are the result. League’s forget that their sport is entrainment and in this era many hockey games are not. Kudos to Peterborough for taking advantage but games like this are painful to watch.

Agree, both the CHL and NHL levels. For awhile, the leagues had gotten away from ignoring the obstruction and interference but it has crept into the game in the past few years. I want to see fast, skilled players playing rough and tough but without the slower players holding, hooking etc. The game is great when played tough at a high speed. Not sure why this has devolved in this manner

 

[Hendy]

This team needs to look at that Woolley goal and recognize that not every goal needs to be a work of art…Woolley skates down the wing and rips a hard shot and is rewarded. They are trying to do way to much and the amount of prime scoring chances that are passed up to try and make a high difficulty pass is frustrating. Simplify the game and get more shots to the net. We are struggling to score right now and need to simplify.

I have Sweet Georgia Brown queued up on my phone and play it when I see the Knights go into their Harlem Globetrotters routine...my seat mates just roll their eyes.

 

[frontsfan67]

London goes 13-7 in their final 20, and Windsor goes 17-2 in their final 19 games.
London, Windsor tied with 105 points. (No point for OT/SO loss considered.)

What's the likelihood?

0. Londons not losing 7 times in the remaining 20 games. Maybe 3-4 would be my guess

 

[LDN]

 

[Knights77]

Rye is an excellent goalie. Fantastic movement. I am very happy the streak is over because now they can focus on just making the right play instead of looking for Cowan with the streak in mind. It was getting ridiculous. Sim is this years mvp, heart and soul player. Speaking of heart and soul….why would Dickinson have his gloves glued on at the end of the game. Two guys wanted to fight him….hes come nowhere near close to a fight, and after the scrum he goes straight to the dressing room unassisted. (Refs didn’t send him there). I think for the physicality of his game that desperately needs work, he needs to see that getting punched in the head really isn’t that bad. It’s still part of the game and being 6’4 200+ pounds….the best dmen play with an edge. Unless their game is that of a small skilled player which he is not. Yes he’s got a great shot, but his game would go up a notch with some physicality. Speaking of which anyone see 13 try and throw a body check at mid ice? He braced himself and bounced off the Pete’s player…it was very funny. Physicality isn’t for everyone wet or and that’s ok, 13 has a great shot and if he shot as much as Gazizov did last year, he wouldn’t catch so much flack.
Anyone else think the Pete’s goal should have counted? Looked like a goal or a penalty on Elliott to me.

 

[TheOrangePylon]

Rye is an excellent goalie. Fantastic movement. I am very happy the streak is over because now they can focus on just making the right play instead of looking for Cowan with the streak in mind. It was getting ridiculous. Sim is this years mvp, heart and soul player. Speaking of heart and soul….why would Dickinson have his gloves glued on at the end of the game. Two guys wanted to fight him….hes come nowhere near close to a fight, and after the scrum he goes straight to the dressing room unassisted. (Refs didn’t send him there). I think for the physicality of his game that desperately needs work, he needs to see that getting punched in the head really isn’t that bad. It’s still part of the game and being 6’4 200+ pounds….the best dmen play with an edge. Unless their game is that of a small skilled player which he is not. Yes he’s got a great shot, but his game would go up a notch with some physicality. Speaking of which anyone see 13 try and throw a body check at mid ice? He braced himself and bounced off the Pete’s player…it was very funny. Physicality isn’t for everyone wet or and that’s ok, 13 has a great shot and if he shot as much as Gazizov did last year, he wouldn’t catch so much flack.
Anyone else think the Pete’s goal should have counted? Looked like a goal or a penalty on Elliott to me.

I 100% think that Pete’s goal should have counted, the rule book reads it should have counted.
No penalty on Elliott though, that’s a play a goalie makes 100 times a game, just a fluke the net came off. He didn’t do it on purpose.

 

[superdee]

The net was off long before the puck was shot. If it came off as the shot was being taken you might have a good goal.

 

[OMEGARAZER]

The net was off long before the puck was shot. If it came off as the shot was being taken you might have a good goal.

If this is the case then why did the goal count against the Rangers last season in the playoffs, there was a pass while the net was off and it counted. Friday there was just a shot, it also actually went in the net as well, not just between the moorings.

 

[superdee]

If this is the case then why did the goal count against the Rangers last season in the playoffs, there was a pass while the net was off and it counted. Friday there was just a shot, it also actually went in the net as well, not just between the moorings.

I think they thought the net was dislodged intentionally and if they hadn’t counted a goal he was getting a penalty

 

[Sane Knights Fan]

This team needs to look at that Woolley goal and recognize that not every goal needs to be a work of art…Woolley skates down the wing and rips a hard shot and is rewarded. They are trying to do way to much and the amount of prime scoring chances that are passed up to try and make a high difficulty pass is frustrating. Simplify the game and get more shots to the net. We are struggling to score right now and need to simplify.

I love this take Jagr! Some many times we are right in front of the net in prime real estate and we don’t shoot , it drives me nuts I love Barkey but he’s the worst because of the kids super care for passing to one of his buddies. You work hard to get in front with the puck take the shot guys !

 

[OMEGARAZER]

I think they thought the net was dislodged intentionally and if they hadn’t counted a goal he was getting a penalty

Okay, sure, but how would they have thought it was any more intentional than Elliott? Looking at the overhead shots they're pretty similar. The only real difference from the goalie is Elliott is against the post for marginally longer before pushing off which means he has less momentum to push back on. If anything that makes the playoff one look like the less intentional of the two to me.

But still, the rule does cover both intentional and accidental so there shouldn't be a difference regardless of how the net is dislodged.

 

[Sane Knights Fan]

Okay, sure, but how would they have thought it was any more intentional than Elliott? Looking at the overhead shots they're pretty similar. The only real difference from the goalie is Elliott is against the post for marginally longer before pushing off which means he has less momentum to push back on. If anything that makes the playoff one look like the less intentional of the two to me.

But still, the rule does cover both intentional and accidental so there shouldn't be a difference regardless of how the net is dislodged.

Give them the goal , the knights still would have pulled that game out Just forget about it !

 

[Otto]

Okay, sure, but how would they have thought it was any more intentional than Elliott? Looking at the overhead shots they're pretty similar. The only real difference from the goalie is Elliott is against the post for marginally longer before pushing off which means he has less momentum to push back on. If anything that makes the playoff one look like the less intentional of the two to me.

But still, the rule does cover both intentional and accidental so there shouldn't be a difference regardless of how the net is dislodged.

Ok, alternate universe: Goal counts its 3-2 less than a minute left, Petes pull their goalie, Cowan scores into an empty net. 4-2 London final, Cowans streak is at 66 games.

Which would you prefer?

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Ok, ulternate universe: Goal counts its 3-2 less than a minute left, Petes pull their goalie, Cowan scores into an empty net. 4-2 London final, Cowans streak is at 66 games.

Which would you prefer?

Or the team that's scored two straight keeps their momentum and scores more? Cowan would have needed to be on the ice at the end of the game too, but since it's hypothetical, sure.

 

[Otto]

Or the team that's scored two straight keeps their momentum and scores more? Cowan would have needed to be on the ice at the end of the game too, but since it's hypothetical, sure.

Which scenario is more likely to happen?

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Which scenario is more likely to happen?

Which team was more likely to win last years game in London? Which team won? Are the answers the same?

 

[Otto]

Which team was more likely to win last years game in London? Which team won? Are the answers the same?

Different this season, the Petes are far worse

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Different this season, the Petes are far worse

Okay, so they probably shouldn't have scored and lost by like 10 right? Since the worse version of the Petes team this year lost 6-0 right?

Also doesn't change the fact that London was more likely to win last season and didn't does it?

 

[Sane Knights Fan]

Okay, so they probably shouldn't have scored and lost by like 10 right? Since the worse version of the Petes team this year lost 6-0 right?

Also doesn't change the fact that London was more likely to win last season and didn't does it?

I’ve said it before. Who cares about a round robin tournament that is pretty much rigged against the true ohl champ
After they go thru every team (Saginaw included) then come up against a healed and rested team. It happens every year it’s like a crap shoot. If the format stays the same in the memorial cup why not make it a best out of 7 for the last two teams to crown a real and true winner . Maybe the Pete’s could of won it the year before and the knights last year

 

[Otto]

Okay, so they probably shouldn't have scored and lost by like 10 right? Since the worse version of the Petes team this year lost 6-0 right?

Also doesn't change the fact that London was more likely to win last season and didn't does it?

I don't know why you think that. Going into that game the Petes were 5-2-0-1 against the Knights in their previous 8 games

I’ve said it before. Who cares about a round robin tournament that is pretty much rigged against the true ohl champ
After they go thru every team (Saginaw included) then come up against a healed and rested team. It happens every year it’s like a crap shoot. If the format stays the same in the memorial cup why not make it a best out of 7 for the last two teams to crown a real and true winner . Maybe the Pete’s could of won it the year before and the knights last year

They are not talking about the Memorial Cup

 

[OMEGARAZER]

I’ve said it before. Who cares about a round robin tournament that is pretty much rigged against the true ohl champ
After they go thru every team (Saginaw included) then come up against a healed and rested team. It happens every year it’s like a crap shoot. If the format stays the same in the memorial cup why not make it a best out of 7 for the last two teams to crown a real and true winner . Maybe the Pete’s could of won it the year before and the knights last year

Not that this has anything to do with what Otto and I were talking about it doesn’t help the case the knights only played 4 more games before the mem cup. It’s an unfortunate side effect of having 4 teams in and three leagues, it could have been worse like other host teams losing in the first round of their playoffs and sitting for weeks.

 

[OMEGARAZER]

I don't know why you think that. Going into that game the Petes were 5-2-0-1 against the Knights in their previous 8 games

I assume that’s just regular season games? If so, cool, I did not know that off the top of my head. How many games in a row had London won going into the game last season?

 

[Otto]

I assume that’s just regular season games? If so, cool, I did not know that off the top of my head. How many games in a row had London won going into the game last season?

No, that includes the Playoffs. Pete's had played the Knights well. This season in Peterborough, however it was a beatdown with no Cowan in the lineup. it stands to reason given the play of the Petes this season, and the motivation to get Cowan that point, that there was little chance the Petes would have scored 2 more goals to win. Honestly, if the expectation were that they would have come back with two goals, then why didn't they tie the game and send it into overtime?

 

[HUSH10]

Uh oh

 

[Otto]

London Knights player, 20, charged with drunk driving after crash

A star London Knights defenceman is facing several charges, including drunk driving, after police say officers found a running, unoccupied vehicle that appeared to have been involved in a crash.

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