Rumor: Logan Stanley requests trade

[BoneDocUK]

The Big Ben Chairot comparos aren't too far off -- although, there's always the Beaulieu factor.

The Jets didn't extract the value from Chairot (assets-wise) that others did, but they got some inexpensive playing years as a supporting-cast D with limited versatility but a heavy game.

IIRC, he was a late bloomer, and while never great and certainly not top-pairing quality, he was undoubtedly useful during his time here.

Can Stanley become the next Chairot? He loses out in speed and mobility, can be a better passer but like Big Ben seems to panic and freeze too often. I just don't see much more upside at this point, but the org has invested in him and they won't want to let him go easily, IMO.

I don't really see a fit beyond a 6/7/8 guy who will fight now and then. Samberg is already better and calmer, a true Dillon replacement. Either Heinola or Chisholm are already more skilled with higher upside. Capo seems better as an all-rounder with some upside and is signed through next year.

Where would Stanley fit in a 2023-24 or 2024-25 team?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I hated the pick at the time given we moved a late 1st and a high second to move up 7 or so spots especially given that many of picks from the late first to mid 2nd round have produced just as much or more than Stanley. And I hate it now.

Is Stanley a decent bottom-pairing d-man as in average? If you took the bottom 64 d-man in the league right now where would he rank? If he is below 40th or 45th than he is below average.

On his own maybe Stanley can get a late 2nd or 3rd. Can't see more than that.

We moved up just 4 spots, though we also got a 3rd.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I have no problem with Logan wanting to move on and its probably time after the season. I don’t think he carries much trade value anymore but perhaps he can be a throw in on a bigger trade. Seems like a good kid and I wish him well.

Comments here are getting a little unnecesarily mean spirited. Not his fault he was overvalued at the draft.

I never liked the pick, even if we had taken him at 22 without trading up. I thought he should have gone in the 3rd or 4th rd so I wouldn't have liked him with our pick at 36 either. But he seems like a decent kid. He has worked hard to get where he is. And yes, the gap in our ages allows me to call a 24 YO "kid".

 

[ps241]

Comments here are getting a little unnecesarily mean spirited. Not his fault he was overvalued at the draft.

I never liked the pick, even if we had taken him at 22 without trading up. I thought he should have gone in the 3rd or 4th rd so I wouldn't have liked him with our pick at 36 either. But he seems like a decent kid. He has worked hard to get where he is. And yes, the gap in our ages allows me to call a 24 YO "kid".

He seems like a really good “kid” and good teammate.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Still not convinced that he actually requested a trade.

 

[Lady Stanley]

I think it's too early to tell, until they're in the 2nd week of the playoffs. He has components that could be critical in later rounds, when everyone is too banged up to fly straight.

But if he goes he should go to a rebuild/tank team, who wouldn't mind watching him being skated around for a season. He can't learn if he's on a team where he's always the weakest link on the roster.

 

[Channelcat]

I like Stanley. Ffs.... he's 900k$ seventh dman. There's so many things to critique on this team, he isn't one of them.

 

[Jet]

I like Stanley. Ffs.... he's 900k$ seventh dman. There's so many things to critique on this team, he isn't one of them.

Yeah he's really over criticized. Unfortunately for him people can't assess him for his play without it being relative to his draft position.

That's why I do think he'll get more in an offseason trade (if that's the plan) then what people might think.

 

[WolfHouse]

Has he been traded yet? Who did the Chicago Wolves send back for him

 

[Jets4Life]

I agree. if you follow my web of posts I said 3rd pair who can fill in top 4 is his maximum ceiling if he works on it and improves his game. But yeah as I said in post 79, hes a number 7 right now. Mid to late round pick level value if a team sees upward reclamation potential.

Most mid-late round picks never even sniff the NHL, or play less than 10 games. Stanley was definitely a disappointment, but looking back to the 2016 draft, it's not like there were a slew of NHL players from #19-30, who became stars. Only Tage Thompson broke-out as a legitimate star player, and it took him until age 24 to do so.

 

[Jets4Life]

Maybe Im underestimsting the value of a 3rd pair / #7 depth defensman. But years past, Jordie Benn went for a 6th round pick. And I think he was the definition of a depth d man. I realize Stanely is younger but right now I see his value as about equal to Capobianco. Definitly not a 1st or 2nd.

Stanley would be lucky to fetch a 4th round pick. He is nothing special.

 

[gojetsgo]

yeah, he def asked for a trade

 

[jetsmooseice]

Stanley would be lucky to fetch a 4th round pick. He is nothing special.

Yeah. I mean, I like the kid, I think there is still potential and I want him to succeed as a Jet. But if he wants a trade, I don't think any Jets fans are going to lose any sleep over it. Give him what he wants.

 

[None]

So what's the endgame here for the Jets by giving Stanley more minutes? Get him to rescind his trade request only to have Samberg's on the table soon after?

 

[slurpee addict]

I don't see him as any great loss - other than we seem to have used a high pick on him and he hasn't really delivered. He'll never be higher than a 6, 7 or 8 on a teams defense depth chart. Copo and Samberg are much more reliable. And for a guy of his size he really isn't a physical player or good with the mitts off.

 

[BoneDocUK]

So what's the endgame here for the Jets by giving Stanley more minutes? Get him to rescind his trade request only to have Samberg's on the table soon after?

Yeah it makes no sense.

You want more minutes under the Bones Crew? Be bigger, be Wheeler, or be better.

Stan has had the bigness bye for years now. It's on him to be better.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Every organization has a few of these guys at any point in time. Number 6-8 guys that may or may have a better opportunity elsewhere.

Stan is what, 7 years out from his draft year? He is what he is, but at this point, maybe trade him to a team that thinks there's a spot for him.

 

[tbcwpg]

So what's the endgame here for the Jets by giving Stanley more minutes? Get him to rescind his trade request only to have Samberg's on the table soon after?

Yeah it makes no sense.

You want more minutes under the Bones Crew? Be bigger, be Wheeler, or be better.

Stan has had the bigness bye for years now. It's on him to be better.

The end game is continue the plan of rotating the 7D in to get some playing time ahead of the playoffs.

Why it's tonight and wasn't Monday against the Sharks, I don't know, but Bowness has always said he doesn't like his players sitting too much.

 

[BoneDocUK]

The end game is continue the plan of rotating the 7D in to get some playing time ahead of the playoffs.

Why it's tonight and wasn't Monday against the Sharks, I don't know, but Bowness has always said he doesn't like his players sitting too much.

Sure, that's the plan.

But the Jets are fighting for a spot, not coasting gently into one. Feels like the focus right now should be on playing your best players in their spots to actually wrap up that playoff spot you'd like to keep players fresh for.

 

[tbcwpg]

Sure, that's the plan.

But the Jets are fighting for a spot, not coasting gently into one. Feels like the focus right now should be on playing your best players in their spots to actually wrap up that playoff spot you'd like to keep players fresh for.

That's why I said I didn't get why it wasn't Monday instead of tonight, but if you're supposed to be able to rely on your depth players come playoff time, you need to get them a few reps.

 

[KingBogo]

That's why I said I didn't get why it wasn't Monday instead of tonight, but if you're supposed to be able to rely on your depth players come playoff time, you need to get them a few reps.

The Wild are also a low event trap team, so it might not be a bad spot for Stanley to rotate in.

 

[BoneDocUK]

The Wild are also a low event trap team, so it might not be a bad spot for Stanley to rotate in.

Here's hoping. They seem a pretty quick and aggressive forecheck team this year, which makes me expect a pretty consistent overload on Stan's side to try to exploit his lack of footspeed, but Good Stan should be able to absorb and transition and he's going to be playing with better defensive forwards.

He's here until draft day, IMO. So I'm pulling for the big fella -- if only to precent a reprise of The Great Stempniak Exit, and the angst that followed.

 

[None]

The Wild are also a low event trap team, so it might not be a bad spot for Stanley to rotate in.

Well if anyone can turn the Wild into a high event team it's Logan Stanley.

 

[jetsmooseice]

Man. Big Stan scores a goal and injures Kaprizov by sitting on him. THE CRITICS HAVE BEEN SILENCED!

 

[Channelcat]

Stanley was pretty good last night actually. But, I do hope he gets an opportunity to move on. It's a shame how shabbily he's been treated here.