Confirmed with Link: Logan Mailloux Signed to 3-Year ELC

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It's funny because you know the woke crowd is in shambles.

Just go over to Reddit and see for yourself 😂

A long time ago, the same type of thinking or band wagons parties got people killed... "hang him, hang him" type chants and other gullible ones join. We like to think we have evolved but not really. It's just disguised in a different form. Kick him when he is down cause he "deserves" it is not a solution.

The law courts decide what punishment is. Not public opinion on the internet. My area of focus is how people react and adapt to change after their mistake. Are you humbled and try to be better or do you get confrontational and continue on being stubborn? What you decide depends and Mailloux has clearly put his head down and is trying to be a better person. The mistake will not be forgotten but he can't be punished for it forever. A lot of people forget today that Mike Tyson is a rapist.
 
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Curious but do you believe that if the incident wasn't sports related and happened in a regular setting, he'd have made it to the NHL/faced same minor consequences?
There are so many factors that come into play both with respect to the sentencing and the aftermath of any criminal act of violence that takes place within the four corners of a sport competition.

The law is clear that once an individual's actions go beyond the accepted rules, both civil and criminal liability flow. For example, every hockey fight during a game would constitute battery or assault causing bodily harm if the fight occurred ten feet off the ice. But a fight on the ice falls within the accepted rules of the game and would shield the two combatants from criminal prosecution. In addition, both would be protected from civil liability under the principal of Volenti non fit injuria, that each player accepted the risk of injury that was foreseeable when both playing the game and entering into the fight.

Fighting is part of the game. The rules of the game prescribe penalties for those engaging in this otherwise criminal and tortious act. Things would be different if hockey outlawed fighting and provided immediate suspensions for any player engaged in this behaviour. In those circumstances, criminal liability would/could arise for those fighting as it would if the fight took place 10 feet outside of the arena of play. Similarly the defence of Volenti non fit injuria to any civil suit would no longer be available as an injured participant could say that I didn't think I would have to defend myself as fighting is banned..

Cizikas' act of violence during a sport event that resulted in the death of another player was properly found to be manslaughter. One of many thousands of acts of violence that take countless lives each year across North America. The circumstances of Cizikas' age and where the offence took place was reflected in his sentencing but was not in itself a defence to the charge. There's little doubt that had Cizikas committed the same act outside of the arena of sport, the court would have sentenced him more harshly. But the public has a short memory and cares little about this player's transgressions so many years ago. It's yesterday's news. As will the stupid act that Mailloux committed.
 

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Man I'm sorry but you're full of crap, I just read the whole Reddit thread on r/habs and it's almost unanimous support for this decision, along with a willingness to believe in his maturity and growth.

People who use "woke" and "anti-woke" spend way too much time on the internet and forget that 99% of regular people don't talk like that and don't have such black and white opinions on every topic.
Amen.
 

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With all thats happening with Hockey Canada, at least this guy is attempting to make himself and hopefully the whole hockey culture better.

Grown men in that organization have done worse and done so little to repair it

Many of us make mistakes and never get caught. He got caught and he will probably be a better adult because of it. He was forced to reflect on it and change where others are still living doing similar things cause they didn't get caught.

Small sample size to review but the Habs management clearly got a solid look at him and got to know him more over the summer. He's on the right path and I have faith this turns into a very good asset for us. If he can overcome this life mistake, no hockey development challenge will stop him!
 
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Anyone still harping on this kid because he made a stupid mistake at 17 years old is a bit sick in the head imo.

It appears to be less lately but like anything on the internet... the latest popular bandwagon herd party is standing up for him so the ones who are sick in the head are hiding in the shadows. A pack of hyenas.
 
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Many of us make mistakes and never get caught. He got caught and he will probably be a better adult because of it. He was forced to reflect on it and change where others are still living doing similar things cause they didn't get caught.

Small sample size to review but the Habs management clearly got a solid look at him and got to know him more over the summer. He's on the right path and I have faith this turns into a very good asset for us. If he can overcome this life mistake, no hockey development challenge will stop him!
I hope many adolescent boys profit from seeing a positive, public outcome from Mailloux’s story. One where he acknowledged and addressed his fault and mistake, and where the rest of us acknowledge he did - even if obviously it means nothing to the only victim in the story, none of us own that.

It would be a mature, useful outcome instead of the name calling and fake dichotomy-making of some posters here for example. And certainly a huge step up from having just done everything to bury it.

I hope he has a magnificent career and pans out for the habs.
 

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Thread full of people shadowboxing against an apparent cohort of people who want him tarred and feathered but somehow have not actually appeared in this thread.

Anyway, I'm excited to see how his year goes in London. I have not changed my belief that the best thing to do would have been to draft a different player, or to release his rights in the immediate aftermath of the pick. However, 16 months later and with an entirely different front office in place I don't think that's a reasonable choice any longer. He has at the very least said the right things publicly and has expressed a mature outlook on his behaviour, and I'm certainly open to giving more latitude in a case where he was still 17 at the time (eg. had this happened in Canada it would not be publicly reported).

He has done what could reasonably be asked thus far and it would be unfair to string him along past the 2022 draft and then release him later in light of his initial request not to be drafted and the fact he's done all the right things since being drafted. None of us can know if he's actually changed or matured in his outlook, but I don't see a compelling reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt when he quietly accepted the OHL suspension and has apparently been putting the work in otherwise, and has said the right things publicly.

I guess to summarize it all, I'm hopeful and cautiously optimistic that the rest of the story of Mailloux and the Canadiens will play out positively.
 
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It appears to be less lately but like anything on the internet... the latest popular bandwagon herd party is standing up for him so the ones who are sick in the head are hiding in the shadows. A pack of hyenas.
These people are very unhappy with themselves to relentlessly attack a 17 year old like that. Miserable people need to destroy others to make themselves feel better. Love and forgiveness.
 
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These people are very unhappy with themselves to relentlessly attack a 17 year old like that. Miserable people need to destroy others to make themselves feel better. Love and forgiveness.

Yeah, there is a lot of suffering in this world and some are not living happy lives. It can spin and suck in a lot of people who get influenced into that culture. Sad reality
 
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Filming someone committing lude acts without consent has been considered a sex offense since portable cameras were a thing. I honestly am not going to go any deeper than that cause I get the feeling your opinion isn't going to be changed and this thread is about signing Mailloux, not discussing the incident for the hundredth time.
Yet you jumped right into discussing it lol
 

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Mailloux us possibly the prospect they know the most. He has been scrutinized , analyzed, dissected a whole year and a half.
 
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I would of signed him also. You can see why many have doubts, but when he played you could see why he was a first pick also
 
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A long time ago, the same type of thinking or band wagons parties got people killed... "hang him, hang him" type chants and other gullible ones join. We like to think we have evolved but not really. It's just disguised in a different form. Kick him when he is down cause he "deserves" it is not a solution.

The law courts decide what punishment is. Not public opinion on the internet. My area of focus is how people react and adapt to change after their mistake. Are you humbled and try to be better or do you get confrontational and continue on being stubborn? What you decide depends and Mailloux has clearly put his head down and is trying to be a better person. The mistake will not be forgotten but he can't be punished for it forever. A lot of people forget today that Mike Tyson is a rapist.
Couldn't agree more. The pitchfork mentality has always been with us it seems - it just hides behind a computer screen now instead.
 

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He paid his dues for the mistake he made. Maybe one day, just maybe we can start having discussions about Logan Mailloux the hockey player.

Immature under age kid did an immature thing and he paid his dues.

Enough already. Move the f*** on.

I would of signed him also. You can see why many have doubts, but when he played you could see why he was a first pick also
The kid can flat out play. I hope he gets and stays healthy.
 

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He paid his dues for the mistake he made. Maybe one day, just maybe we can start having discussions about Logan Mailloux the hockey player.

Immature under age kid did an immature thing and he paid his dues.

Enough already. Move the f*** on.


The kid can flat out play. I hope he gets and stays healthy.
Not only has he paid his dues, he is now an ambassador to consent and respect, especially as a Hab, it resonates.

Like you said......M-O-V-E T-H-E F-*-*K O-N
 
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