Thank for the imput admiral. I did not have chance to watch Richer when he scored 50 goals but i watched Malakhov and what a player when he wanted to. He is one of very few players that Jagr can not outplay.
Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread
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HuGort
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Mailloux be here by March, Savard traded first first pick
ChesterNimitz
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An optimistic prediction. Nevertheless, the 2022 -2023 OHL Coaches' Poll has now voted Mailloux tied for first with Colby Barlow as having the hardest shot in the Western Conference. The same poll voted Filip Mesar as the 3rd best stickhandler in the Western Conference. From my watching of the OHL this year I can't find fault with either result though I think a survey among OHL goalies may give the nod to Mailloux.
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Kudo Shinichi
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Mailloux needs at least 1 full year in the ahl
BLONG7
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Would like to see this........say it again, there are zero reasons to rush this kid....zero.
HuGort
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Mailloux has come along ways. By March he could be ready
Gillings
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If Farrell is in the NHL why couldn’t Mailloux be the 7th D?
Because he needs ALOT of playing time.
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JianYang
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Making the team out of camp isn't only about how good your camp is. It's also about being at the right place at the right time.
Last year was the right place and the time to be a rookie trying to make it. There were spots open, and significant injuries on the backend.
Those injuries may well happen again in camp, but there's probably less opportunity to make the club this year for a newbie. Guhle, WiFi, and Harris were three guys trying to make it last year, and those spots are theirs to lose this year. Kovacevic is probably on the same boat.
That just leaves two spots on this club and I haven't even mentioned matheson, Savard, Edmundson and Wideman.
He could….but in my opinion needs a full year in Laval plus playoffs. Development wise would be so beneficial, let him dominate on a long term platform, let him lead out D into a deep playoff push and let him show up at camp with all that knowledge and experience.
I want him to focus solely on Laval next season.
Anyways…..It’s how I’d approach it
ChesterNimitz
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March of which year?
And of course, Farrell was so dominating.
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I like the AHL idea. The kid is no wallflower, and has some seriously impressive mental stamina.
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And there's also Barron.
Even if we trade Eddie, we're left with 7D plus Wideman. I'd rather not have Kovacevic, Harris, Barron, or Xhekaj sitting for long stretches. I suppose each sitting 1 out of every 4 games until there is an injury isn't the end of the world.
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Farrell is currently in the NHL as he negotiated a bonus clause and the burning of an ELC year. Otherwise he would have went to Laval like Struble did as he has no business being in the NHL at this stage of his development. I also think it is unlikely that he makes the team out of camp next season.
HuGort
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You and rest of these posters didn't want Mailloux. Because of everybody knows why. Now they are salivating over getting him.
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I think you have it in reverse, at least with this poster. From the beginning, I have been a booster of the team’s decision to draft this intriguing prospect. It was a swing for the fences that this team needed to help alter its course from continuing mediocrity. Over the past year my ongoing assessments of Mailloux’s play and development have, I think, presented a measured view of this prospect’s potential. I will repeat what I have often opined: as a result of his combination of size, skating and skill, Mailloux will play in the NHL and play well. But in most probabilities, he won’t play an effective role in the NHL until 2024/2025, at the very earliest. The upcoming series against a strong Sarnia team will tell us all a lot about the current state of Mailloux’s game. If he can dominant, then I will re-assess my predicted time-lines for Mailloux’s arrival. If not, it will have little impact on my overall assessment: Mailloux is still at least one year from playing a contributory role for Montreal or another team if we are foolish enough to trade him. I will also repeat that I have no concerns that the NHL will in any way or manner obstruct Mailloux’s ability to play in the NHL for his past off-ice misconduct. Mailloux will play when he is ready.
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The Gr8 Dane
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Actually a lot of people liked the pick at the time , I know I did. He's destroyed all expectations we had of him, hard not to excited , especially at pick #31.
26Mats
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Here's one bit of evidence that at least one team had Mailloux as a lottery pick between 10-15 if not for his off ice issue:
translated from French:
The former coach [Michelle Therien] also draws a parallel between the file of Matvei
Michkov and that of Logan Mailloux in 2021.
“If we make the comparison with Logan Mailloux, he was probably on all the lists. At the time, I was in Philadelphia and personally asked the general manager, Chuck Fletcher, where he was on our list. He answered me between 10 and 15, but I don't remember exactly.
Therrien admits that even if the Flyers liked the player that was Logan Mailloux, it was out of the question for the owners to claim him.
“When there is a controversy and it is more delicate, it is often the owners who will make the final decision. In the case of Logan Mailloux, several clubs wanted to draft him before, but he had asked not to be drafted. On the side of the Flyers, there was no question for Comcast to draft a player and have negative effects on the company.
https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/05/09/un-important-indice-sur-la-strategie-du-ch-au-5e-rang-est-revele
translated from French:
The former coach [Michelle Therien] also draws a parallel between the file of Matvei
Michkov and that of Logan Mailloux in 2021.
“If we make the comparison with Logan Mailloux, he was probably on all the lists. At the time, I was in Philadelphia and personally asked the general manager, Chuck Fletcher, where he was on our list. He answered me between 10 and 15, but I don't remember exactly.
Therrien admits that even if the Flyers liked the player that was Logan Mailloux, it was out of the question for the owners to claim him.
“When there is a controversy and it is more delicate, it is often the owners who will make the final decision. In the case of Logan Mailloux, several clubs wanted to draft him before, but he had asked not to be drafted. On the side of the Flyers, there was no question for Comcast to draft a player and have negative effects on the company.
More surprised Therrien was involved in drafting.
Habs Halifax
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Could be is possible but not probable. He will get his shot in camp but I expect the Barron development road once Mailloux turns pro. These two are build from the front end in vs the back end out. Not the same as Guhle and Romanov types who are trusted D types in their own end. And yes, I know Mailloux has made improvements but he has a ways to go yet. Time and space and puck management at the pro level is going to be a test for him.
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Not only that, there's simply no room for him on the Habs roster next season. Better to get 23 min in Laval than 10 min in the NHL. Do you even think he should 100% leave junior? I know Guhle left at the same time but he had a lot more development time under his wing
Habs Halifax
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Agreed. And with Guhle, he was the type who focused at playing D first. Mailloux is a offensive style type who has recently worked at being more sound defensively. Not the same path as Guhle or Romanov who are build from the back end out vs the front end in. Hutson will have a similar challenge when he turns pro. Learning how to be trusted and manage the puck well as a D man in the NHL is not easy. Some guys never figure it out and some figure it out over several years. Look at Barron. It usually is a process.
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That is why it is so important to keep our vet D-men and give the time to these raw rookies to learn the game at a lower level like the AHL. Barron and Harris should had stayed the whole season in Laval. Of course, the injuries derailed the process.
Pompeius Magnus
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I fully expect to see Mailloux spend the entire next season with Laval, even if he does well at the rookie camp. He's behind on his development time and the organisation is very aware of it. Plus, we have too many young dmen as it is, guys like Barron and Xhekaj are in front of him.
