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Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

HabsAddict said:
One of the two of his biggest problems can develop in the AHL. His constant butt-on-ice visits. He needs to develop his balance because he loses a lot of the one-on-one.

His defensive decision making and positioning would be far better off with a vet defensive partner. We have none to give him in the AHL or the NHL

As for trading Savard. If you asked me in August, I was thrilled, ask me now and I'm not trading him for anything. We are woefully on quality defensive play and we would be worse off without Savard.

Maybe everything changes IF...IF we get a top notch defensive coach teaching the young ones the finer points of defensive play.
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Learning defence in the AHL will close the current gap a bit so he can learn better at the NHL level.
 
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Habs said:
With you overreactions, and mine, we could have lots of fun over beers watching this shitshow of a franchise in a pub
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You two would get beat up mouthing off by people trying to cheer on the team.
 
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Treb said:
Mailloux was not expected to be a mainstay in the NHL right now.

He did show some things offensively and showed his weaknesses defensively, which is something everyone was already aware off.

His defensive game has evolved in the last year, so we can be optimistic it`s going to progress further. At this time last year, he was one of the worst D defensively in the AHL.
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If what we saw was him improved I'm not exactly sure how that's a positive. He just feels unsafe out there at all time.
 
Ive no doubt in my mind this guy is our trade bait number 1 for a trade to improve either defence or forwards.
 
Prettyisland said:
The kid has 6 games in the NHL. Some of you expect him to look like Scott niedermayer. Chill out
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Also the fact he missed so much development time over the past couple of years. Let the kid marinate in Laval for the rest of the year and see how he does next camp. It's sad many fans are in such a rush to have prospect be a finished product or else they suck and should be traded.
 
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Deebs said:
Also the fact he missed so much development time over the past couple of years. Let the kid marinate in Laval for the rest of the year and see how he does next camp. It's sad many fans are in such a rush to have prospect be a finished product or else they suck and should be traded.
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Patience is not something in abundance when it comes to allowing young kids the time they need to develop.
 
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Tyson said:
Patience is not something in abundance when it comes to allowing young kids the time they need to develop.
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We all have PTSD from the Bergevin era.................patience is a tough one....we are a true piece of slow progress.
So is Logan Mailloux. Lots to learn, but I like his offensive instinct.
 
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BLONG7 said:
We all have PTSD from the Bergevin era.................patience is a tough one....we are a true piece of slow progress.
So is Logan Mailloux. Lots to learn, but I like his offensive instinct.
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6'3 220 RD, gritty...there is alot to like.
I remember how bad Logan was defensively last season during the 1st game...it wasn't good. But what I noticed though was a significant difference from game 1 to game 72. Yes he still needs to play better defense but he has improved from a year ago in a big way. He is going to be a solid top 4D.
 
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Tyson said:
Patience is not something in abundance when it comes to allowing young kids the time they need to develop.
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The reality is that patience is not something in abundance in any form of human endeavor today. We live in an era of instant gratification. Hockey and its fans today are not immune from this dynamic.

Having been born during the Truman administration I perhaps have a different perspective. I can wait.
 
He obviously needed way more development time on defense. It's why I kept getting baffled when Bouillon would push him as NHL ready.

I think the org finally got a douse of reality and expect next time that Lindstrom is the call up.
 
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Tyson said:
6'3 220 RD, gritty...there is alot to like.
I remember how bad Logan was defensively last season during the 1st game...it wasn't good. But what I noticed though was a significant difference from game 1 to game 72. Yes he still needs to play better defense but he has improved from a year ago in a big way. He is going to be a solid top 4D.
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The best i could dedcribe his first 10 games was...he was still playing junior hockey...in the AHL.

Over the years, we've lost so many kids to second rate development it scares me that we'll lose X and Mailman. Never get their potential out of them or trade them and see them flourish elsewhere.
 
Habs said:
I would take the umbrella out of @Mrb1p shirley temple and stab them in the eyes!
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LOL , sure but before that you would have stirred the passions.

Its a rough season so far. Xhekaj the Unicorn all of a sudden maybe not being able to fit in the top 6. A healthy Dach will anchor a good 2nd line and now he isnt the Dach of 2 years ago. Of course Laine and Reinbacher set the mood. And there were expectations this year so the Management is under fire. Etc.

I knew this was going to be a bit of a shake out year because the kids are getting in their playing time and decisions are being forced by competition and where we need to be in development. This year I wanted to see if Dach is a 2C, is Barron worth keeping, will Xhekaj and Struble take the next step, and will we get an idea of what we have with Hutson, are a few of the questions.

I am not hitting any panic buttons so early into this year , but by game 35-40 we will have answers to some questions.
 
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BLONG7 said:
We all have PTSD from the Bergevin era.................patience is a tough one....we are a true piece of slow progress.
So is Logan Mailloux. Lots to learn, but I like his offensive instinct.
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I remember going to Hamilton to scout Komisarek. He would get beaten on the outside, he was mad at himself, he would come back to the bench and get brow beaten by Julien.

But nothing changed over a 50 game span.

I deliberatly sat behind the bench to see the reaction of the players to a bad mistake. Not once did someone go over and say snything to them.

At least i discovered that we had a potential quality center in Pleky that no one had high on their list.

Back to Komi, who and where exactly was the development? Certainly couldn't be the brow beating Julien.
 
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vokiel said:
Or the coaching is just more adequate? Some players need structure to perform.
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There was an article yesterday in La Presse about how the defensive systems in both Laval and Montréal are identical, which would be very whatever... But Mailloux' comments there do not portray him in a good light. Unable to recognize they are the same systems - Vincent had to correct that after - and just spoke gibberish when asked about it.

To attempt to be somewhat fair to him, it's possible than some of it is just Montréal playing that bad to start the season, but he was way below par here and him saying these things doesn't really help his case.
 
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Garo said:
There was an article yesterday in La Presse about how the defensive systems in both Laval and Montréal are identical, which would be very whatever... But Mailloux' comments there do not portray him in a good light. Unable to recognize they are the same systems - Vincent had to correct that after - and just spoke gibberish when asked about it.

To attempt to be somewhat fair to him, it's possible than some of it is just Montréal playing that bad to start the season, but he was way below par here and him saying these things doesn't really help his case.
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He processes the game too slowly for the NHL and struggles to recognize his assignment.....pretty easy and obvious explanation.
 
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Garo said:
There was an article yesterday in La Presse about how the defensive systems in both Laval and Montréal are identical, which would be very whatever... But Mailloux' comments there do not portray him in a good light. Unable to recognize they are the same systems - Vincent had to correct that after - and just spoke gibberish when asked about it.

To attempt to be somewhat fair to him, it's possible than some of it is just Montréal playing that bad to start the season, but he was way below par here and him saying these things doesn't really help his case.
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Well I'm with Logan here, it doesn't sound like a system, more like a philosophy. So there's going to be players lost in their own zones over it, simply because they don't have the same "zone" definition at the same time as their team mates. Basically what we're seeing in Montreal. (Newhook getting rammed by Savard for example) If it works better in Laval, it's probably because they simply don't follow it as religiously or because there's just better on ice communication.

It sounds like the players are saying there are no clean direction lines and it's causing issues.
 
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