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GDT: Lockout is over

CerebralGenesis said:
I don't view the Devils as a separate entity from the NHL and I don't view the players as a different one from the NHLPA. They can live without me funding them with a few hundred every year



I'm stubborn.
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I'm not sure who in the Devils organization has anything to do with the NHL side of things for the lockout. Lou so much as said he wasn't involved. I don't think JVB had much to do with the owners position either (it was more Jacobs, Snider, Leopold). The big market fans will show up even if a few are fed up. If Devils fans don't, it's only going to hurt this organization.
 
Unknown Caller said:
I'm not sure who in the Devils organization has anything to do with the NHL side of things for the lockout. Lou so much as said he wasn't involved. I don't think JVB had much to do with the owners side of things either (it was more Jacobs, Snider, Leopold). The big market fans will show up even if a few are fed up. If Devils fans don't, it's only going to hurt this organization.
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That plus I don't take their nonsense personally. They're not holding me hostage, as much as it felt like at times they were :laugh: Ultimately however, we find other things to do and spend our money on when they aren't there. We're not DEPENDENT on the NHL to survive or have fun. We'd rather have them around to be able to enjoy games but if they're not around, that's their problem.

Plus if I'm going to still be a fan of the Mets and Jets, despite all the embarassments those organizations have brought on themselves, it'd be hypocritical of me to boycott the Devils because of stuff that largely wasn't their doing.
 
Unknown Caller said:
I'm not sure who in the Devils organization has anything to do with the NHL side of things for the lockout. Lou so much as said he wasn't involved. I don't think JVB had much to do with the owners position either (it was more Jacobs, Snider, Leopold). The big market fans will show up even if a few are fed up. If Devils fans don't, it's only going to hurt this organization.
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They are part of the NHL. It isn't 30 floating entities. You can go pay and countdown for the next lockout. I'm too disgusted to feed the NHL's and NHLPA's greed for at least a little while. It'll give me an opportunity to save up money as well.

and I realized that the players were angry at escrow payments only to pay escrow through their nose this season. Nice work.
 
Unknown Caller said:
I'm not sure who in the Devils organization has anything to do with the NHL side of things for the lockout. Lou so much as said he wasn't involved. I don't think JVB had much to do with the owners position either (it was more Jacobs, Snider, Leopold). The big market fans will show up even if a few are fed up. If Devils fans don't, it's only going to hurt this organization.
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Absolutely 100% agree.. The fans of the big, rich teams are the ones that need to make a statement here.. All that will happen if Devils fans don't show up is people will continue to believe we have "no fans brah"

Jacobs knows that even if he alienates 20% of his fan base, he'll still sellout and most of that 20% will be back eventually.. The benefits of locking out in the past have outweighed the loss of some Bruins fans, therefore he will continue to be a major force behind these..

Does anyone really think Jacobs cares if this hurts the Devils? Absolutely not and he'd probably prefer that we fall of the map and move to Quebec so he can sell another rivalry..

So get back at him and the other hardliner owners by essentially just punishing the Devils, but you're not changing a thing in the future.. Just hurting the Devils.. It's really a damn shame
 
it's not about hurting anyone, for me. I don't care as much, it lost its appeal. it's like being a kid, peeking backstage, and seeing the magician doing bumps off of a hooker clown.

I'm assuming my interest will come back but who knows?
 
Look at it this way, you're most likely not going to go to as many games because there won't be as many this year. So you won't spend as much as you would have with a full season. So ultimately you'll have more money in your pocket by the end of this season than you would have had it been a full one. Therefore let's stop complaining and play some hockey!
 
I'd like a top six of:

Kovy-Zajac-Butler
Elias-Josefson-Zubrus

but that makes our bottom six horrible.
 
MartyOwns said:
it's not about hurting anyone, for me. I don't care as much, it lost its appeal. it's like being a kid, peeking backstage, and seeing the magician doing bumps off of a hooker clown.

I'm assuming my interest will come back but who knows?
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think that analogy applies more to WWE being fake, baseball players using steroids, or NBA refs being payed off than collective bargaining.
 
Unknown Caller said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think that analogy applies more to WWE being fake, baseball players using steroids, or NBA refs being payed off than collective bargaining.
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How bout paying for sweatshop products?

If you want to go, then go. I'm not here telling you not to go. Don't whine about the next lockout if it happens though.
 
CerebralGenesis said:
How bout paying for sweatshop products?

If you want to go, then go. I'm not here telling you not to go. Don't whine about the next lockout if it happens though.
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Exactly. I can't tell anyone what to do. I'm saying if you think protesting by not going to Devils gets is going to hurt the league as a whole, it won't. It will just affect the Devils.
 
I just think that if you're going to protest greedy athletes and owners then make sure you're not supporting any of the other leagues.. They're all just as money hungry (aren't most people when they have the chance) but their leagues don't have the problems and growing pains like the NHL does.. I mean, how can anyone say the NHL is greedy and then support the NY Jets.. Not only do they suck, but their owner turned the team into a circus to sell more tickets
 
HeliDevil said:
I'd rather him not play there but he's better than both of those you named.
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Agreed, but there's at least 5 players in Albany I'd rather have at forward than Harrold. Pretty much my point. There's no reason for Harrold to be in that position.
 
Lol I don't support the jets so that's good.

And you think the money you spend all goes to the Devils? There is a reason MLB has labor peace for over 20 years. Empty stadiums is the correct answer. That and Beatlejuice left their PA.
 
Unknown Caller said:
I think that analogy applies more to WWE being fake, baseball players using steroids, or NBA refs being payed off than collective bargaining.
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look, I saw what I saw that day and I'm just trying to broach the subject with the gang here ok? cut me some slack. also, I was the hooker clown.
 
hope we resign sykora. he wont produce as much in such a shortened season, but he could still give us a boost
 
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