GDT: Locker cleanup and Final Season interviews: Bergvein Press Conference at 4:00pm EST

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Pierre McGuire laying out facts on 690 mentioning all those teams on the rise.

dark days ahead for this franchise

Pierre Mcguire was once quoted as saying..............what a monumental mistake, Montreal has made drafting Carey Price.

So, not much he says, has any credibility with most.........the guy is an absolute idiot.

Teams on the rise, sure Peanut...

 

[DAChampion]

Pierre Mcguire was once quoted as saying..............what a monumental mistake, Montreal has made drafting Carey Price.

So, not much he says, has any credibility with most.........the guy is an absolute idiot.

Teams on the rise, sure Peanut...

He made a mistake, people do.

It's different from Bergevin, who has a pattern of making mistakes.

 

[groovejuice]

maybe he knows he's getting fired this week?

either that, or he know no matter how bad he messes things up, Molson is even more clueless than it seems and his job is safe as long as he wants it.

either way, sad time to be a fan of this once proud franchise.

Molson has other shareholders he needs to be accountable to. He's not the sole proprietor. I'd like to see him replaced with a hockey man, somewhat like what Toronto did. I don't mind the multiple levels of management as long as they're all intelligent, independent thinkers and have a successful history. And the Habs can certainly afford it. Enough with snake oil salesmen. Let's get some serious knowledge and experience running this franchise.

 

[Habs100]

Pierre Mcguire was once quoted as saying..............what a monumental mistake, Montreal has made drafting Carey Price.

So, not much he says, has any credibility with most.........the guy is an absolute idiot.

Teams on the rise, sure Peanut...

As good as Price is, Maguire might have been right. It's harder to find a number one center than a good goalie. If we had drafted Kopitar, we might have been able to get a decent goalie to replace Theodore. We haven't been able to find a decent number one center since then.

 

[Garbageyuk]

If Bergevin is still the GM after the SCP are over I think I'm officially done with watching this team until Geoff Molson sells it.

I really can't stomach the idea of watching another season of that style of hockey, paying to see it live or supporting the idea that a guy who inherited all of his wealth and never played hockey at a significant level/needed Serge Savard (who I don't blame but who was out of the sport for a tremendous amount of time) to help guide him is so full of hubris that he continues to think he's the right guy to fulfill the President's position.

Enough is enough. If I wanted to be a masochistic I would've grown up a Sens fan.

I'm feeling the same way. I can't take another year of these clowns. Nothing will change as long as MB is around and Molson is involved in any way with the day-to-day operations of this franchise. I'm done. The best thing Price could do for himself and this franchise is to leave. Radulov should leave as well. Some long dark years ahead.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Pierre Mcguire was once quoted as saying..............what a monumental mistake, Montreal has made drafting Carey Price.

So, not much he says, has any credibility with most.........the guy is an absolute idiot.

Teams on the rise, sure Peanut...

He didn't say it was a monumental mistake, just that it was one. Keep in mind, context is important here. Kopitar is who he thought Montreal should have drafted to address their hole down the middle. One could make a very compelling argument Kopitar may well have been the better choice, if only because it's easier to find a good goalie compared to a top tier center.

 

[1909]

Molson has other shareholders he needs to be accountable to. He's not the sole proprietor. I'd like to see him replaced with a hockey man, somewhat like what Toronto did. I don't mind the multiple levels of management as long as they're all intelligent, independent thinkers and have a successful history. And the Habs can certainly afford it. Enough with snake oil salesmen. Let's get some serious knowledge and experience running this franchise.

Canadien's President had never been "hockey" guys. Pierre Boivin, Ronald Corey were not. Molson , neither. They are "image" guys. And that can ruin a team pretty fast.

 

[1909]

He didn't say it was a monumental mistake, just that it was one. Keep in mind, context is important here. Kopitar is who he thought Montreal should have drafted to address their hole down the middle. One could make a very compelling argument Kopitar may well have been the better choice, if only because it's easier to find a good goalie compared to a top tier center.

They did not pick Kopitar because of his hockey background (country). They were afraid to fall on another Kostitsyn.

 

[groovejuice]

As good as Price is, Maguire might have been right. It's harder to find a number one center than a good goalie. If we had drafted Kopitar, we might have been able to get a decent goalie to replace Theodore. We haven't been able to find a decent number one center since then.

But Kopitar isn't a #1 Centre...

 

[deandebean]

Addison is an overager in the OHL and projects at best to be a 4th line rotational player.

Name me one center prospect we have in the system. One legit center prospect.

None, he said so himself.

 

[G0bias]

He didn't say it was a monumental mistake, just that it was one. Keep in mind, context is important here. Kopitar is who he thought Montreal should have drafted to address their hole down the middle. One could make a very compelling argument Kopitar may well have been the better choice, if only because it's easier to find a good goalie compared to a top tier center.

This.
In a vacuum Price at n.5 is a tremendous pick. That said when you take in consideration the team's shear ineptness at finding a true 1C for the last 20+ years, Kopitar is a perfectly reasonable pick.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Pierre McGuire mad.

He ain't wrong, though.

I missed it. Is there any recap or replays of McGuire's ranting?

 

[Lycanthrope]

It's funny to read the posts. People were expecting what? He did have some interesting and revelating points:
- Price is staying long term
- He's open to the ideal of an offer sheet (that's new to me. Means he's desperate).
- Beaulieu is at a crossroads. Meaning he's gone.
- There are no other center in the pipeline.
- Radulov yes, but lenght of contract is a factor.
- Saku Jr will be in the top 6 next season.

Rest is 'show de boucane'.

Absolutely correct and my thoughts exactly. It is funny reading these posts. They make it seem so easy, and what were they expecting? Did Ridiculous.

 

[deandebean]

oh and you agreed with his philosophy on the centre ice position

I liked his roll on Kopitar and Toews not being #1C that was well thought out

and scoring not being a problem really - he was on fire today

Nope, don't agree. I just said it's a big smokescreen. Show de boucane. Means he said nothing.

 

[Braun]

Habs will be fine. Bergevin is fine. Price is awesome. Weber is awesome. Pacioretty is a regular season player.


Problem is....NO ONE STEPPED UP IN THE PLAYOFFS.

 

[deandebean]

What he should have done:

Engels: "Marc can you name a team that has won a cup without a number 1 center, like you said has happened before?

MB: "I can't name one".

Engels: "So, in your opinion, we can't realistically be expected to compete for the Cup before we aquire one"?

MB: "That's correct".

And by this splendid display of candor Bergevin would have achieved several important objectives:

- Send an excellent message to this team's core, several members of which are impending UFA's .

- Send an equaly important message to UFA's that might want to join a contending team.

- Display an excellent negiotiating strategy when engaging in contract negiotiations with any potential UFA centermen. This same negiotiating strategy would have proven to be invaluable in aquiring a top C via trade. After all, as we all know, desperation is the key element to any succesfull hockey trade.

- And most importantly, by making such statement, Bergevin would provide an emotional satisfaction to people on hockey message boards across the world, proving that he is in fact a competent hockey executive and not a moron.

Why are you shocked? He's been repeating the safe stuff for the last five seasons. I just don't know whst you expected.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

 

[1909]

Absolutely correct and my thoughts exactly. It is funny reading these posts. They make it seem so easy, and what were they expecting? Did Ridiculous.

No one was expecting more.... It's just the way MB is delivering it. Sounds totally non confident. He always give the impression that he doesn't know where he is going, really. Just pure improvisation. The fact that he said that a team can win big without a #1 centerman was a killer to me. CJ knows that you need good centermen. He had some good ones in Boston for years.

Struck me when he said he did not had the time to think about a specific aspect (important) because he was not expecting to sit in front of journalists this Monday afternoon....

 

[shamrun]

Dont worry about pierre. And its true teams around us are getting more competitive. This is the type of league we are in now.

 

[uiCk]

Habs will be fine. Bergevin is fine. Price is awesome. Weber is awesome. Pacioretty is a regular season player.


Problem is....NO ONE STEPPED UP IN THE PLAYOFFS.

If by fine you mean win a couple rounds here and there, I agree!

Habs fans standards are to high, gotta get down to "just fine" level to really apricate being fan of this franchise.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

He made a mistake, people do.

It's different from Bergevin, who has a pattern of making mistakes.

And it was an easy one to make at the time too. Theodore was in his prime and widely considered as one of the best keepers in the league.

 

[V13]

They did not pick Kopitar because of his hockey background (country). They were afraid to fall on another Kostitsyn.

Benoit Pouliot was the guy they really wanted if my memory serve correctly but he was drafted at #4 right before Price

So yeah in retrospect Kopitar would have been a great choice as well but it's not like we came out with nothing. We did land a Hart Vezina winning goalie

Imagine if the Wild drafted Price or Kopitar instead of Pouliot. Chances are that it's us who would have grabbed him. Now that would have been a colossal mistake

 

[deandebean]

There are a couple using new accounts to hide themselves now, easy to pick out too when you look at join dates.



Either this thread or the Berg one, I'll try to choose a few of the best quotes from him.

What happened to Bellial? Got suspended?

 

[groovejuice]

What happened to Bellial? Got suspended?

He's been around quite late at night

 

[Whitesnake]

Bergevin's plan is luck and guesses. He sure hopes that having your best player and the most paid player as a goalie works out. And he thinks that bounces were key in this 1st round.

No need to do anything else. I think we are re-signing King.