3:1 for Canada vs 3,2:1 for Russia it is not clear favourite
I can clearly tell who the favourite is, yes.
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I can clearly tell who the favourite is, yes.
just luck, now there will be three olympics outside north america so three golds to europeans
hitmen19
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just luck, now there will be three olympics outside north america so three golds to europeans
odds are in your favour. There is only one Canada, but 10 European countries. You should win with those odds
Nope.
Also, the implied probability of Canada winning is roughly 30%, as I mentioned.
In other words, Team Canada on average would win gold less than once in 12 years with these odds.
I'll start off by saying that considering the roster they have anything other than gold would(should?) be a major dissapointment.
Why they will dominate:
1. Aforementioned roster
2. Best coaching staff in the tournament
Why they won't dominate:
1. Big ice
2. IIHF rules and reffing (not a dig at IIHF reffing per say just the fact that NHLrs aren't as used to international rules and reffing as the Euro-countries are)
3. Goaltending (weakest link on the roster - probably says more about the strength of the rest of the roster though..)
4. Canada seldom "dominates" in international tournaments
Why they will dominate:
1. Aforementioned roster
2. Best coaching staff in the tournament
Why they won't dominate:
1. Big ice
2. IIHF rules and reffing (not a dig at IIHF reffing per say just the fact that NHLrs aren't as used to international rules and reffing as the Euro-countries are)
3. Goaltending (weakest link on the roster - probably says more about the strength of the rest of the roster though..)
4. Canada seldom "dominates" in international tournaments
Because they are good enough to be there, where is Cuba,Jamaica,Mexico etc. to increase the americas odds?
exactly, last top tournament outside north america, where Canada won something was in 1952 in Norway and at normal tournament it was in 2007.
Canada didn´t brought medal from international tournament since 2009.
you can say it wasnt top canadian team but when i look at 2012 World championship roster it wasnt so bad team (almost half of current olympics team is present) and they were beaten by Slovakia in Quarterfinals
at 2013 the roster was with Smith,Stamkos,Subban,Duchene,Giroux etc. and the were beaten by Switzerland, had to go with Slovenia to overtime and lose to Sweden in Quarterfinals
Seriously just stop with the world championship ********. This has been beaten to death, its meaningless, go read the other threads about it.
If you really want to use a WC team who has less than half of the players from this years Olympic roster, was full of guys who traveled half way across the world after a long and grueling NHL season and possibly a round or two of playoffs (who are only there to vacation with their families anyways) to decide the outcome of this years Olympics, then I really don't know what to say.
Nope.
Also, the implied probability of Canada winning is roughly 30%, as I mentioned.
In other words, Team Canada on average would win gold less than once in 12 years with these odds.
Alright fair enough, I just checked a half dozen sites I'm familiar with. I have no idea what that aggregate odds calculation site is you're using (but I can see its utility).
On a side note, the odds given are not really reflect of the probability of a team winning an event. I don't really think there is a way to give an objective probability of an outcome on the basis of subjective evaluations.
If you think the odds don't reflect the probability of the teams winning in Sochi and if you think the odds on Canada should be shorter, it is irrational on your part not to invest money and not to make a substantial bet on Canada winning the tournament.
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Well, at the time, Liut bore a lot of the criticism (unfairly).
Not sure if you were in Canada at the time.
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yeah, so its 10 against 1. who says we want or need the extra help? We don't care if mexico or Jamaica is there.
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I'm not sure why Europeans feel the need to pound on Canada in this thread.
They are one of many teams that can win.
So what? Nothing's changed.
They are one of many teams that can win.
So what? Nothing's changed.
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Nope.
Also, the implied probability of Canada winning is roughly 30%, as I mentioned.
In other words, Team Canada on average would win gold less than once in 12 years with these odds.
and yet Canada has won 2 of the last 3 Olympics, and soon to be 3 out of 4
While I don't necessarily believe we will win Gold this year, OLYMPICS MEAN NOTHING BRO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS1!1!!1!111one!!1!!!!!eleven!!!1!1!
Hopefully the rest of the roster isn't playing as bad as Mike Smith or Dam Hamhuis have been lately because, if those two aren't dressed and sitting in the stands, we won't medal.
Not necessarily. I am still acting perfectly rational if I have an alternative form of investment from which I expect a higher rate of return. This, to me, is a perfectly plausible scenario given the high risk nature of buying a future on a team in a single elimination game tournament.
Alternatively, if a person experiences a large enough amount of disutility from pursuing such an endeavor, they're still acting rational to not bet on a team even if they feel the given odds do not accurately reflect the actual chance of that team meeting the metrics of the bet.
And for the record, scenario #1 my situation. Post secondary education happens to be my preferred investment vehicle at this time.
Because hockey is played on the ice and short tournaments normally come with a bunch of surprises.
Theoretically, Canada has the best lineup. And goaltending shouldn't be an issue : Luongo and Price are more than capable goaltenders. In fact, they're amongst the elite of the NHL this season.
Theoretically, Canada has the best lineup. And goaltending shouldn't be an issue : Luongo and Price are more than capable goaltenders. In fact, they're amongst the elite of the NHL this season.
3:1 for Canada vs 3,2:1 for Russia it is not clear favourite
The US has 7.5 and Russia 3.2 enough said
I think Canada will be relatively untested going into the medal round which can spell disaster if we have a bad first period and cannot respond. That could easily undo us.
Eventually at some point in the Olympics our goalie will have to steal a period for us to win a game. If goaltending continues to be the Achilles heel they could easily go down.
Eventually at some point in the Olympics our goalie will have to steal a period for us to win a game. If goaltending continues to be the Achilles heel they could easily go down.
Amen. Mr. Slater summed it up nicely.
In 2004, at the World Cup, other than the Czechs in the semis, we had a dominant tournament - so it is possible. Yes, I know the final was close but we were never at risk of losing.
My predictions for Sochi...
Canada comes out of the Round Robin as the number one team because of a large goal differential.
We will coast thru the Quarters. Our biggest test will be in the Semi's. If we have gelled, we are playing well and win in the Semi's, we will win Gold.
Nope.
Team Canada on average would win gold less than once in 12 years with these odds.
I disagree. You are misreading the intention of the numbers.
You would need to take into consideration the size of the country's population and the amount of money the agencies believe would be waged by fans of the teams. Remember, they want to provide odds to entice the casual fan to bet - most likely on their home country.
There are far more factors involved than the belief that Canada would win one of out 3 Olympics.
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