Player Discussion Linus Ullmark (G)

[Wallet Inspector]

I still say we start Ullmark against Carolina, I still don't trust Forsberg that much and we should let Ullmark get a quick bounce back.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think the plan was to win vs Phile with Ullmark and start Forsberg here to give Ullmark a rest and get Forsberg a game...

The 1st part didn't happen but the 2nd part will go ahead

 

[Answer]

I'll give you last night's game, but what are the other games?

Actually, I will take that back and he hasn't single handedly lost us any games except the last one but he has failed to make a safe or two when we really needed it to win some games, that we did ended up losing.

He was brought in solely to be an elite goalie and win us some games which he keeps failing to do.

 

[Mr Hat]

Actually, I will take that back and he hasn't single handedly lost us any games except the last one but he has failed to make a safe or two when we really needed it to win some games, that we did ended up losing.

He was brought in solely to be an elite goalie and win us some games which he keeps failing to do.

He arguably lost wins vs Buffalo and maybe NYR. Perhaps a loser point against NYR. So he single handedly lost 5 points this year, which is a huge percentage.

 

[Micklebot]

Actually, I will take that back and he hasn't single handedly lost us any games except the last one but he has failed to make a safe or two when we really needed it to win some games, that we did ended up losing.

He was brought in solely to be an elite goalie and win us some games which he keeps failing to do.

I can agree with pretty much all of this, Ullmark needs to be better, and hasn't lived up to expectations so far, I still have faith he can turn it around and be a key part of the future but there's no denying he hasn't been great so far

 

[Micklebot]

He arguably lost wins vs Buffalo and maybe NYR. Perhaps a loser point against NYR. So he single handedly lost 5 points this year, which is a huge percentage.

We scored a combined two goals in those games, if he lost them what's the expectations, a shutout every game?

 

[Mr Hat]

We scored a combined two goals in those games, if he lost them what's the expectations, a shutout every game?

I confused Vegas and Buffalo losses as he allowed a 5 spot against each. I guess the expectation is for him to not get consistently outplayed by the opposing goalie when the team plays strong. Need to get one point when we dominate regardless of getting goalied.

 

[bicboi64]

We scored a combined two goals in those games, if he lost them what's the expectations, a shutout every game?

At least a .900 save percentage. 5 GA in vegas on 27 shots and 2 on 18 shots isn't good enough for a guy that got extended to an $8 million aav.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Its early and this has to turn around,

GSAX
27th 8 gp Forsberg .8
62nd 10gp Ullmark -3.9

Not that we'd want to compare

28th 7gp Korpisalo .8

We really don't want to compare
2nd Talbot 10gp 9.3
4th Daccord 12gp 7.6
8th Gustavsson 13gp 7.1


Senators are much improved in team defense .. so that can't be used as an excuse for poor goalie stats
Expected goals against per 60 Sens are 3rd best in the NHL at 2.07... which is excellent and they are 6th in expected goal differential per 60 at .3

Our actual goal differential per 60 is 23rd at -.3

Not sure we've heard this before but We Need Better Goal Tending

Stats are from MoneyPuck 5on5 team stats

 

[Sun God Nika]

U gotta let Ullmark run with the net. Was beyond dumb to not let him rebound especially after securing 5/6 pts.

 

[Mr Hat]

U gotta let Ullmark run with the net. Was beyond dumb to not let him rebound especially after securing 5/6 pts.

Can’t confuse the team securing points and playing well vs individual performance. The team can play well and win, while one key player is not performing.

It’s like saying Leafs would be stupid to bench Reaves when they secured 5/6 points. Correlation not causation.

Hopefully Ullmark goes on a nice streak here and all is forgiven. But right now he is titling the ice in the wrong direction vs league average goaltending, and we are paying for top ten tender. He needs to be better, and can. Whether he does it seems 50/50 given his flaws so far.

 

[Tuna99]

U gotta let Ullmark run with the net. Was beyond dumb to not let him rebound especially after securing 5/6 pts.

Why? Ullmrk hasn't earned the net, you cover his and Forsberg salaries and it’s a complete toss up who’s the better goalie. we aren’t sacrificing a season waiting for Ullmark to show up

If legit he loses the next game and you go back to Forsberg and he wins, you’re plying Forsberg until he loses again If Forsberg won last game he’d be in the net tonight, it’s time everyone carry their own water.