Lines for 2015/16 season

[Cowumbus]

Jenner Johansen Saad 1
Calvert Dubinsky Atkinson 2/3
Hartnell Wennberg Foligno 2/3
Bourque Campbell Clarkson 4

Anyone one 1st line gets hurt Foligno/Hartnell move up
Anyone on 2/3 lines get hurt Rychel/Bjorkstrand/Milano called up
4th line injury Boll/Anderson called up

Probably won't happen but I liked the Calvert, Duby, Cam line and it did well in the playoffs

 

[NotWendell]

Cute idea. Now, who owns the naming rights to our arena again?

PS It was a highway before it was a body shop.

 

[CBJx614]

I think you underrate Hartnell as a goal-scorer. But I also don't like Clarkson on that line.

I dont think I underrate his goal scoring ability. He's just the type of guy who is gonna score more goals in a crash the net style of offense. Rebounds, one timers back door, etc. The ones that look really bad if you miss . He's not gonna be the guy who after Wennberg opens up space in the slot and drops him a pass that's gonna snipe though. Someone like Atkinson, Milano or Bjorkstrand however....

I may be in the minority, but I think Milano makes it before Bjorkstrand.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I dont think I underrate his goal scoring ability. He's just the type of guy who is gonna score more goals in a crash the net style of offense. Rebounds, one timers back door, etc. The ones that look really bad if you miss .

Yes, you do, in the way I meant it.

He's not gonna be the guy who after Wennberg opens up space in the slot and drops him a pass that's gonna snipe though.

Yes, he is. You're underrating and stereotyping Hartnell's game here.

 

[CBJx614]

Yes, you do, in the way I meant it.



Yes, he is. You're underrating and stereotyping Hartnell's game here.

Yeah he had some pretty snipes but a lot of those goals were created because he was crashing the net or working his way into open areas of the ice.

 

[LetsGOJackets!!]

Hartnell Wennberg Milano/ Bjorkstrand work for me..

 

[Sdrawkcab321]

Jenner Johansen Saad 1
Calvert Dubinsky Atkinson 2/3
Hartnell Wennberg Foligno 2/3
Bourque Campbell Clarkson 4

Anyone one 1st line gets hurt Foligno/Hartnell move up
Anyone on 2/3 lines get hurt Rychel/Bjorkstrand/Milano called up
4th line injury Boll/Anderson called up

Probably won't happen but I liked the Calvert, Duby, Cam line and it did well in the playoffs

That's an expensive 3/4th line

 

[Sdrawkcab321]

Yeah he had some pretty snipes but a lot of those goals were created because he was crashing the net or working his way into open areas of the ice.

That's almost as great as the JR smith song

 

[CBJWerenski8]

It's amazing how bad Saad is being portrayed on the mains now. Before the deal everyone loved Saad and all these other teams fans loved Saad and thought he was a star in the making. Now after the deal people are all "He was a product of Chicago's stars" and "He's overrated on these boards." Ugh its so frustrating

 

[Fro]

meh...wouldn't worry too much...only drop off from Toews to Joey is experience and culture around them...we're almost there...i'm excited

 

[stevo61]

It's amazing how bad Saad is being portrayed on the mains now. Before the deal everyone loved Saad and all these other teams fans loved Saad and thought he was a star in the making. Now after the deal people are all "He was a product of Chicago's stars" and "He's overrated on these boards." Ugh its so frustrating

Columbus is the underdog and I love it. Some people were over hyping him but that was even before the trade. Regardless of what people think Johansen is better then Toews offensively so I hope Saad can get close to 65 points and that will shut some people up

 

[We Want Ten]

It's amazing how bad Saad is being portrayed on the mains now. Before the deal everyone loved Saad and all these other teams fans loved Saad and thought he was a star in the making. Now after the deal people are all "He was a product of Chicago's stars" and "He's overrated on these boards." Ugh its so frustrating

The amount of people on the mains that don't realize that figs and Joey out produced Kane and Toews is what's alarming. The idea that he isn't going to the barren wasteland of talent that fits their narratives is just too much for some of them to handle. He will be able to produce here, maybe even more here than there simply due to opportunity.

 

[jacketsgeek]

Cute idea. Now, who owns the naming rights to our arena again?

My thought exactly. The way Bob Juniper trashes insurance companies, especially Nationwide - no way he gets anywhere near this team.

 

[CBJx614]

Columbus is the underdog and I love it. Some people were over hyping him but that was even before the trade. Regardless of what people think Johansen is better then Toews offensively so I hope Saad can get close to 65 points and that will shut some people up

I know I always get flak for it, but really Johansen isn't that far behind Toews overall. He's passed him offensively and when the team is healthy his defensive and possession numbers aren't that far behind Toews at all. I really think he could be just as good or better than Toews at his peak. Will he have a better career? That's doubtful as its not likely for him to have 3 cups and a bunch of hardware to go with them. But I think point/statistic wise he won't be TOO far behind at the end of their careers.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Saad-Johansen-Jenner
Foligno-Dubi-Atkinson
Hartnell-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Calvert-Campbell-Clarkson

JJ-Savard
Murray-Prout
Tyutin-Connauton

Have looked at the various pairings and generally like this one, except I would test Bourque at RW on third line. It's hard for me to slot in newer guys until they make the squad. I could see Atkinson and Jenner swapping spots at RW. Beyond hoping to stay healthy, my other hope is that one of these guys - Bourque or Clarkson - show some level of competency and skill.

 

[EspenK]

I know I always get flak for it, but really Johansen isn't that far behind Toews overall. He's passed him offensively and when the team is healthy his defensive and possession numbers aren't that far behind Toews at all. I really think he could be just as good or better than Toews at his peak. Will he have a better career? That's doubtful as its not likely for him to have 3 cups and a bunch of hardware to go with them. But I think point/statistic wise he won't be TOO far behind at the end of their careers.

I think what sets Toews apart is his leadership. Something i haven't seen from Joey. Not saying that is good or bad just saying it is. Joey could outpoint Toews when both careers are through. So far Toews has the edge in that category too. All of that is really irrelevant. Joey is ours and he seems to be on the right track after a slower start than Toews.

 

[CBJx614]

I think what sets Toews apart is his leadership. Something i haven't seen from Joey. Not saying that is good or bad just saying it is. Joey could outpoint Toews when both careers are through. So far Toews has the edge in that category too. All of that is really irrelevant. Joey is ours and he seems to be on the right track after a slower start than Toews.

Thats true, thankfully we don't need to Joey to be a leader. However I wouldn't be suprised to see him grow into one. I really think he's made humongous strides both as a player and a person off the ice. I think that showed more with this season you could see how disappointed he was in the interviews, yeah he was a PPG most of the season but we were still losing and nothing was good enough for him. Dubinsky, Foligno and Hartnell I feel like have had a huge impact on him on and off the ice.

Character is something that cannot be overlooked when buidling a team and roster. Jarmo and JD have made sure this roster is filled with character, experience and leadership. It's almost like the perfect blend of youth and leadership. We'll have guys pushing for spots over the next 3-4 years while we have a really solid core of leadership and character to set examples and raise the bars for the youngsters trying to earn a spot.

 

[thebus2288*]

Hartnell is 1 of our best pure shooters.

No way Clarkson or Bourque should be playing above Calvert. With how Wiz was treated at the end of his time here I don't think salary/cap hit will have much impact on guys playing time anymore. We have essentially no use for Bjorkatrand or Milano at this point, unless you're ok with seeing Wennberg go to the AHL.

Saad-Johansen-Foligno
Hartnell-Dubinsky-Jenner/Atkinson
Calvert-Wennberg(prefer Tynan w Nekande in LE)-Atkinson/Jenner(Rychel)
Bourque-Campbell-Clarkson-Boll-(Anderson)

Johnson-Savard
Murray-Tyutin
Connauton/Falk-Prout/Golobeuf

PP:
Saad-Johansen-Atkinson/Foligno

Murray-Johnson

Hartnell/Calvert-Dubinsky-Foligno/Jenner

Savard-Connauton/Tyutin

PK:

Campbell-Calvert/Jenner

Tyutin-Savard

Dubinsky/Johansen-Jenner/Foligno

Murray/Johnson-Prout/Falk

 

[Johnny Jacket]

Saad - Johansen - Atkinson
Hartnell - Wenny - Foligno
Jenner - Dubi - Clarkson
Calvert- Campy - Bourque

I went with what I think TR goes with. If it upsets some of you that I have The Dubi line as the number 3 line you can switch it with the number2 line but when you see the Dubi line matched up with the other teams number 1 line you'll know why I have Dubi at 3.

 

[JoeCBJfan]

Saad - Johansen - Atkinson
Hartnell - Wenny - Foligno
Jenner - Dubi - Clarkson
Calvert- Campy - Bourque

I went with what I think TR goes with. If it upsets some of you that I have The Dubi line as the number 3 line you can switch it with the number2 line but when you see the Dubi line matched up with the other teams number 1 line you'll know why I have Dubi at 3.

I agree!!!
Let Dubi take 3rd - Defensive role

 

[Light the Lamp]

There is not going to be much different ice time between 2nd and 3rd lines. Will be match up focused.

 

[stevo61]

I agree!!!
Let Dubi take 3rd - Defensive role

Dubi will always get the top responsibilities regardless of line numbering. Basically the question is who ends up on the RW. I think Dubi's line will get more 5v5 time and Wennberg and Hartnell get more PP time. Wouldn't mind Hartnell's minutes around 16ish to keep him fresh through the season

 

[thebus2288*]

Saad - Johansen - Atkinson
Hartnell - Wenny - Foligno
Jenner - Dubi - Clarkson
Calvert- Campy - Bourque

I went with what I think TR goes with. If it upsets some of you that I have The Dubi line as the number 3 line you can switch it with the number2 line but when you see the Dubi line matched up with the other teams number 1 line you'll know why I have Dubi at 3.

Even if it turns out this way it makes no sense to have Clarkson on that 3rd "shutdown" line. Calvert is better at every aspect of the game both offensively and defensively. Size/strength is literally the only thing Clarkson has over him. With the overall speed and hockey IQ that Clarkson seems to bring it makes no sense to put him in that type of role.

Without getting into line numbering the 1 issue with this TYPE of lineup is you have 1 line that is very north-south(1st line) and another that is very east-west(2nd). I'd swap Atkinson and Foligno. Lines 1(Saad-Johansen-Foligno) and "3" (Jenner-Dubi-Calvert), Richards would have no issues matching up against opposing teams top lines while also being a threat offensively. Line "2" (Hartnell-Wennberg-Atkinson)could be given the "sheltered" minutes asked to primarily just put up points. I would give that "3rd" line a few more minutes a game over the "2nd". Really, it could benefit the team and each guy on that "2nd" line. In the long run its probably good if Hartnell gets some "lighter"(less ES more PP) time throughout the year. And major's "burnt-out theory" with Atkinson has been talked about and witnessed in his game the last couple years. He could benefit from some "easier" icetime also. And of course my "Wennberg sucks theory" also plays a role in this idea.

 

[major major]

Even if it turns out this way it makes no sense to have Clarkson on that 3rd "shutdown" line. Calvert is better at every aspect of the game both offensively and defensively. Size/strength is literally the only thing Clarkson has over him. With the overall speed and hockey IQ that Clarkson seems to bring it makes no sense to put him in that type of role.

Without getting into line numbering the 1 issue with this TYPE of lineup is you have 1 line that is very north-south(1st line) and another that is very east-west(2nd). I'd swap Atkinson and Foligno. Lines 1(Saad-Johansen-Foligno) and "3" (Jenner-Dubi-Calvert), Richards would have no issues matching up against opposing teams top lines while also being a threat offensively. Line "2" (Hartnell-Wennberg-Atkinson)could be given the "sheltered" minutes asked to primarily just put up points. I would give that "3rd" line a few more minutes a game over the "2nd". Really, it could benefit the team and each guy on that "2nd" line. In the long run its probably good if Hartnell gets some "lighter"(less ES more PP) time throughout the year. And major's "burnt-out theory" with Atkinson has been talked about and witnessed in his game the last couple years. He could benefit from some "easier" icetime also. And of course my "Wennberg sucks theory" also plays a role in this idea.

Without endorsing your Wennberg theory, I think this is a very good use of our talent. You could really go to war with Line 1 (o-zone starts) and Line 3 (d-zone starts) and let Line 2 take up about 15 mins a game with easier competition.

I'm also not sure if Atkinson would be better able to maintain his explosiveness if his minutes were trimmed back, but it's worth a try.

 

[Ben Grimm]

I'm glad you're in the East so the Hawks don't play you much. I already made a CBJ timer on my VCR so I don't miss all your playoff games and can watch Saad.