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Gm0ney

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Is Bob Murray handcuffed by ownership? The Ducks are flying close to the cap and I always thought they were an internal budget team. I'm sure there are some options Murray could exercise to clear enough cap to get the deal done, but is does he have full authority if those options end up costing the Ducks more money?
 

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So, there's basically no forward that would possibly be available that you would trade lindholm for? Domi had 52 points last year as a rookie...

Larsson got Hall
Jones got Johansen

Lindholm is better defenseman then those so a forward coming our way better be better for us to consider it.

Is Lindholm really that much better than Fowler or Vatanen? I always figured him to be the #2 or 3 D-man on the Ducks.

You'd think he is the next incarnation of Orr the way he's talked about in his thread.

Granted I've only seen a couple of Ducks games with him last season, but he doesn't seem that far ahead of Trouba talent-wise, IMO.

And Trouba is arguably the 3rd or 4th D-man behind Buff, Toby and Myers.

Lindholm is a good deal better then Vatanen. Between Lindholm and Fowler it has been back and forth.
 

Weezeric

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Larsson got Hall
Jones got Johansen

Lindholm is better defenseman then those so a forward coming our way better be better for us to consider it.



Lindholm is a good deal better then Vatanen. Between Lindholm and Fowler it has been back and forth.

Hall had 42 points in his rookie season and johansen had 21. You also don't have the cap to take on players like that...
 

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Is Lindholm really that much better than Fowler or Vatanen? I always figured him to be the #2 or 3 D-man on the Ducks.
Overall, he hasn't been that much better than Fowler, who is brutally underrated. But he's had stretches of absolute dominance. If you go by advanced stats, Lindholm's borderline elite. If you go by the eye test, he's an exceptional young defender with elite potential.

You'd think he is the next incarnation of Orr the way he's talked about in his thread.
Not really. But one would correctly think that he's right there with Ekblad as one of the very premier young defenders in the game, which holds enormous value.

Granted I've only seen a couple of Ducks games with him last season, but he doesn't seem that far ahead of Trouba talent-wise, IMO.
He sure was on a different level last season. And "talent-wise" is a weird way to put it, given what the position is about.
 

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2012-13 7G 20A 27P (46 games)
2013-14 24G 35A 59P

So yeah, his production is down over years, not year. Those goal totals are diminishing, and so is his overall play if you actually watch him. His shot totals are decreasing as well. Also, take the hat off, it draws attention.

As with Kesler, his play isn't the issue now, he's probably worth it. Pretty much nobody thinks he will be in 6 years, so it took a desperate team to get that contract (pretty much exactly like the Ducks were for a 2C with Kesler).
Right....jumps in to bash an organizations signings but defends Kesler(also has massively overpaid older declining players Perry/Getzlaf)

Put your hat back on
 

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Chris Johnston and Jeff Marek (Sportsnet) just said on TV (Hockey Central) that he talked to some NHL Executives around the league and also checked in with the Ducks and said the Ducks are NOT SHOPPING Lindholm. Said the signing isn't imminent and will probably be a couple more weeks but will get done
 

Moon Man

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Lindholm + prospect/pick for Trouba + Dano

You guys get to talk to Trouba or his agent to work out a bridge before the trade (he's an RFA). You get to keep the Stanley Cup dream alive (or at least more alive then it would be Lindholmless). We'll sign Lindholm for the 6 mil.

Edit: You can even throw in Stoner if it helps.
 

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Lindholm + prospect/pick for Trouba + Dano

You guys get to talk to Trouba or his agent to work out a bridge before the trade (he's an RFA). You get to keep the Stanley Cup dream alive (or at least more alive then it would be Lindholmless). We'll sign Lindholm for the 6 mil.

Edit: You can even throw in Stoner if it helps.

Any team is allowed to do this currently as he is free to sign with any team, however obviously Peg/any team with a RFA has ability to match..
 

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Lindholm + prospect/pick for Trouba + Dano

You guys get to talk to Trouba or his agent to work out a bridge before the trade (he's an RFA). You get to keep the Stanley Cup dream alive (or at least more alive then it would be Lindholmless). We'll sign Lindholm for the 6 mil.

Edit: You can even throw in Stoner if it helps.

Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.
 

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Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.

I think it doesn't make "absolutely zero sense". If other teams don't want to trade their already signed "top young D" (as the rumour suggests is the ask from Anaheim) which could be a possibility, then it could make some sense to speak to the only other top young D in the league right now to work out some sort of bridge. It's hopeful on my front, but I wouldn't put the sense of it at "absolutely zero".

Anaheim doesn't have the cap to work out a long term with Lindholm? If I was the GM of the Ducks, I'd at least go ahead and talk to the only other top young D's agent in the league that I can talk to (RFA) and see if there is a possibility to work out a cheaper bridge. The team that has his rights is willing to give up a young middle six forward as well? What's to lose. We get to chase Lord Stanley for a few more years at least, no harm no foul.

It's hopeful on the Jets' front, but I think it does make at least a lick of sense.
 

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Right....jumps in to bash an organizations signings but defends Kesler(also has massively overpaid older declining players Perry/Getzlaf)

Put your hat back on

I said all the players were worth it now, and all the players won't be in the future, and that both organizations made bad choices out of desperation. Reread it again, then apologize.
 

Drydenwasthebest

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Would you trade your #1 dman (Shea Weber) for a good defensive prospect (Thomas Chabot for example)?

There is a world of difference between Shea Weber and Lindholm! Seriously? Lindhom is not Weber, nor at his level of value, yet. As someone was arguing about Sergachev, the potential is there for Lindholm to get to Weber's level, but it has not been achieved at this time. Not all "#1" defencemen hold the same value. Larsson is the #1 defence man in Edmonton, is he worth the same amount as Lindholm? Would you trade Lindholm for Larsson straight across? Of course not.
 
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the source of this rumor has never proven to be credible, but not surprised to see it light hf on fire.

ducks are not going to trade lindholm for lowball offers, they have tried forever to develop a franchise dman and it has been high priority ever since niedermayer and pronger left. so if you think you are going to get him cheap, try again.
 

JetsHomer

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Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.

please provide a source for this statement
 

JetsHomer

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is there a source that suggests he would even sign a cheap bridge deal?

I believe the only source reporting has said that Trouba simply refused to talk contract with the Jets. No one knows what he would sign for from other teams or how much money he wants.
 

Whileee

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Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.

Problem is that with the Ducks' cap situation they probably couldn't afford either of them. I think there's a chance the Trouba could be convinced to take a bridge deal just so he can get back into the NHL this year and play for a team that suits him. If not, the Jets could take a cap dump like Stoner to allow the Ducks to sign Trouba without having to trade a key player like Fowler.

In the end, it really depends on how much Murray thinks of Trouba. If he's one of the GMs that really likes him, it's not far-fetched to think that the Jets could put together a rich enough package to get Lindholm. If Murray isn't that keen on Trouba, it's a moot point. At this point, none of us know what Murray thinks of Trouba.
 
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