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So, there's basically no forward that would possibly be available that you would trade lindholm for? Domi had 52 points last year as a rookie...
Is Lindholm really that much better than Fowler or Vatanen? I always figured him to be the #2 or 3 D-man on the Ducks.
You'd think he is the next incarnation of Orr the way he's talked about in his thread.
Granted I've only seen a couple of Ducks games with him last season, but he doesn't seem that far ahead of Trouba talent-wise, IMO.
And Trouba is arguably the 3rd or 4th D-man behind Buff, Toby and Myers.
Horvat tanev for lindholm
Larsson got Hall
Jones got Johansen
Lindholm is better defenseman then those so a forward coming our way better be better for us to consider it.
Lindholm is a good deal better then Vatanen. Between Lindholm and Fowler it has been back and forth.
Overall, he hasn't been that much better than Fowler, who is brutally underrated. But he's had stretches of absolute dominance. If you go by advanced stats, Lindholm's borderline elite. If you go by the eye test, he's an exceptional young defender with elite potential.Is Lindholm really that much better than Fowler or Vatanen? I always figured him to be the #2 or 3 D-man on the Ducks.
Not really. But one would correctly think that he's right there with Ekblad as one of the very premier young defenders in the game, which holds enormous value.You'd think he is the next incarnation of Orr the way he's talked about in his thread.
He sure was on a different level last season. And "talent-wise" is a weird way to put it, given what the position is about.Granted I've only seen a couple of Ducks games with him last season, but he doesn't seem that far ahead of Trouba talent-wise, IMO.
Horvat tanev for lindholm
I'm no Canucks fans, but from the Canucks perspective, that is an absolute boneheaded move.
Right....jumps in to bash an organizations signings but defends Kesler(also has massively overpaid older declining players Perry/Getzlaf)2010-11 30G 32A 62P
2011-12 26G 35A 61P
2012-13 7G 20A 27P (46 games)
2013-14 24G 35A 59P
So yeah, his production is down over years, not year. Those goal totals are diminishing, and so is his overall play if you actually watch him. His shot totals are decreasing as well. Also, take the hat off, it draws attention.
As with Kesler, his play isn't the issue now, he's probably worth it. Pretty much nobody thinks he will be in 6 years, so it took a desperate team to get that contract (pretty much exactly like the Ducks were for a 2C with Kesler).
Hall had 42 points in his rookie season and johansen had 21. You also don't have the cap to take on players like that...
Right....jumps in to bash an organizations signings but defends Kesler(also has massively overpaid older declining players Perry/Getzlaf)
Put your hat back on
So then we don't trade Lindholm we keep him and make other moves for the cap.
Lindholm + prospect/pick for Trouba + Dano
You guys get to talk to Trouba or his agent to work out a bridge before the trade (he's an RFA). You get to keep the Stanley Cup dream alive (or at least more alive then it would be Lindholmless). We'll sign Lindholm for the 6 mil.
Edit: You can even throw in Stoner if it helps.
Lindholm + prospect/pick for Trouba + Dano
You guys get to talk to Trouba or his agent to work out a bridge before the trade (he's an RFA). You get to keep the Stanley Cup dream alive (or at least more alive then it would be Lindholmless). We'll sign Lindholm for the 6 mil.
Edit: You can even throw in Stoner if it helps.
Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.
Right....jumps in to bash an organizations signings but defends Kesler(also has massively overpaid older declining players Perry/Getzlaf)
Put your hat back on
Would you trade your #1 dman (Shea Weber) for a good defensive prospect (Thomas Chabot for example)?
Try more like Zacha++ And Anaheim doesn't need D coming back so no use for Merrill.
Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.
please provide a source for this statement
is there a source that suggests he would even sign a cheap bridge deal?
Lindholm for Trouba makes absolutely zero sense for Anaheim, Considering that Lindholm is seeking around $6 million per long term and Trouba wants $5.5 million per long term. Just give Lindholm his money and end this situation once and for all.