Rumor: Lindholm Mega Thread: All Rumors/Proposals Go Here

[Brock Radunske]

Potential to be Seguin all over again, but...

JVR @ 2.175
Unprotected 1st

for

Lindholm

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Too many pieces and none are high end.

You have a good defensive-C in Plekanec capable of stopping the best of 1st liners (as noticed in the Canadiens vs Bruins game) with 2.5m retained (could be a great 3rd C), a D that can be great in 2nd pairing (Beaulieu has upside, and remember: Anaheim coach/GM really like & appreciate Fowler... Fowler can be first pairing L D), add to that a 1st round pick, and a high-prospect from MTL. I don't see how it's all that bad (but I could also be dreaming in color)...

True, Anaheim could hope for a Lindholm/McDonagh trade, or a trade in top-2 D, but since they're strapped in cap money, I don't know if other teams are going to go easy on them (unless maybe Trouba/Lindholm?).

 

[Arthuros]

Potential to be Seguin all over again, but...

JVR @ 2.175
Unprotected 1st

for

Lindholm

Better than a lot of offers being thrown around, but I wonder how much that 1st's position would change.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Better than a lot of offers being thrown around, but I wonder how much that 1st's position would change.

That's a valid concern but not paying Lindholm 6mil and getting a top line winger for 2 mill will allow the Ducks to address another need as well.
I can't see that 1st not being top 5 though, even with the addition of Lindholm.
Might be tough for the Leafs to add 8 mill for two years...even with the LTIR options.
Gotta think at least some of Marner, Matthews, Nylander, Zaitsev will hit their bonuses.

 

[Whileee]

Potential to be Seguin all over again, but...

JVR @ 2.175
Unprotected 1st

for

Lindholm

Ducks want to win now. This is their window. I can't really see them trading their #1 D for futures.

 

[Paradise*]

You have a good defensive-C in Plekanec capable of stopping the best of 1st liners (as noticed in the Canadiens vs Bruins game) with 2.5m retained (could be a great 3rd C), a D that can be great in 2nd pairing (Beaulieu has upside, and remember: Anaheim coach/GM really like & appreciate Fowler... Fowler can be first pairing L D), add to that a 1st round pick, and a high-prospect from MTL. I don't see how it's all that bad (but I could also be dreaming in color)...

True, Anaheim could hope for a Lindholm/McDonagh trade, or a trade in top-2 D, but since they're strapped in cap money, I don't know if other teams are going to go easy on them (unless maybe Trouba/Lindholm?).

How will Anaheim fit a deal like that under the cap?

Plekanec is a good player on the down swing (getting up in age). Beaulieu isn't really necessary in the deal (need young quality F's). Both Juulsen and Scherbak could possibly be NHLers one day, but neither is a blue chip prospect (think Sergachev if they needed a D prospect). The 1st looks to be a late one in fairly average draft.

It's just not a deal that I think Anaheim would be interested in.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

How will Anaheim fit a deal like that under the cap?

Plekanec is a good player on the dowswing (getting up in age). Beaulieu isn't really necessary in the deal (need young quality F's). Both Juulsen and Scherbak could possibly be NHLers one day, but neither is a blue chip prospect (think Sergachev if they needed a D prospect). The 1st looks to be a late one in fairly average draft.

It's just not a deal that I think Anaheim would be interested in.

If MTL were to trade Sergachev for Lindholm, they'd have to add a player like Plekanec/Desharnais/Shaw in the deal, since they're tight on cap space themselves. But I do get the feeling that the Ducks are in win-mode right now, which is why I thought Plekanec could help with key FOs against other contenders' top lines, and Beaulieu could fit right in the 2nd D pairing (with Fowler in the top D pairing). The 1st round pick and prospect were just gravy, if anything.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Ducks want to win now. This is their window. I can't really see them trading their #1 D for futures.

True. But if they can't come to a dollar agreement they might have to.
At least this gives them a piece that they need now for the run, the cap freedom to add a big deadline piece and a top prospect to fill a need elsewhere.
The Ducks are one of the few teams that are lucky enough to have a bunch of tip end NHL ready defensive prospects chomping at the bit.

I don't think they'd do this trade, but it does provide them with a lot of value and options going forward.

 

[Exit Dose]

Because this is HF and here we're all about the mystery boxes. Once you're discussing an actual player there are stats and things that can be proven, but the mystery box is whatever you want it to be. You can assign it all sorts of mystical properties, and because the box hasn't been opened yet no one can prove you wrong.

The one exception to this is Dustin Rose. He was both a mystery and the answer.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

I keep flip flopping but I wouldn't be gutted if we did:

Trouba + Dano + 1st

For

Lindholm

That could potentially be WAY too much though.

 

[Whileee]

I keep flip flopping but I wouldn't be gutted if we did:

Trouba + Dano + 1st

For

Lindholm

That could potentially be WAY too much though.

No way I'd add the 1st.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

No way I'd add the 1st.

Yeah that's a tough bullet to bite.

The thing is....Lindholm is EXACTLY what we need.

He's what we've needed for YEARS and he's a tremendous player.

I am a patient man but the though of having that #1 LD that can let Buff roam is such a great prospect.

 

[Curufinwe]

I keep flip flopping but I wouldn't be gutted if we did:

Trouba + Dano + 1st

For

Lindholm

That could potentially be WAY too much though.

You should probably take Dano and the 1st out and sub in a guy who's exempt from the ED.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I keep flip flopping but I wouldn't be gutted if we did:

Trouba + Dano + 1st

For

Lindholm

That could potentially be WAY too much though.

Considering that Winnipeg will more then likely finish bottom 10, No way do i see Cheveldayoff trading the 1st round pick.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

You should probably take Dano and the 1st out and sub in a guy who's exempt from the ED.

I don't think we have anyone that

1) Has the value required
2) Is someone we would trade

Possibly something like Trouba + Lemieux but I know the organization is very high on the kid.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Considering that Winnipeg will more then likely finish bottom 10, No way do i see Cheveldayoff trading the 1st round pick.

Do we finish bottom 10 if we add Lindholm though?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Do we finish bottom 10 if we add Lindholm though?

Maybe maybe not, Though i'm not sure that Cheveldayoff would be willing to take that risk seeing that Winnipeg isn't really in a win now mode.

 

[Boxscore]

TO TOR: Lindholm

TO ANA: Gardiner + Kapanen

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Do we finish bottom 10 if we add Lindholm though?

Goaltending is still a pretty big x-factor for Winnipeg and Lindholm might take quite a few games to get back into top form, I don't think it is a certainty that Winnipeg would be out of the bottom 10 with Lindholm.

 

[Spazkat]

If MTL were to trade Sergachev for Lindholm, they'd have to add a player like Plekanec/Desharnais/Shaw in the deal, since they're tight on cap space themselves. But I do get the feeling that the Ducks are in win-mode right now, which is why I thought Plekanec could help with key FOs against other contenders' top lines, and Beaulieu could fit right in the 2nd D pairing (with Fowler in the top D pairing). The 1st round pick and prospect were just gravy, if anything.

Ducks have Kesler and Vermette (2nd and 14th in face off win % last year).. why would they want Plekanec for that (61st)? Also, Kes takes the top line matchups. Add Plekanec to this lineup and he's a 4C

 

[Hunter368]

I keep flip flopping but I wouldn't be gutted if we did:

Trouba + Dano + 1st

For

Lindholm

That could potentially be WAY too much though.

Regardless of what fans believe no way Chevy gives up all that for Lindholm.

 

[Curufinwe]

I don't think we have anyone that

1) Has the value required
2) Is someone we would trade

Possibly something like Trouba + Lemieux but I know the organization is very high on the kid.

Dano just doesn't do much for the Ducks when they couldn't protect him in the ED.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

TO TOR: Lindholm

TO ANA: Gardiner + Kapanen

That more or less gets you Trouba, Not Lindholm. You want Lindholm it more or less starts with Nylander/Marner. Gardiner is a downgrade compared to Lindholm and Kapanen isn't a need in Anaheim.

 

[dracom]

Just a note, but I'm pretty sure at this moment we have 6 forward will will protect and a bunch of guys who we can lose in the expansion draft that wouldn't kill us. So Dano not being expansion protected isn't a problem. Still doesn't cover up that he's not that interesting and not enough of an add to Trouba to make us to trade Lindholm for.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Potential to be Seguin all over again, but...

JVR @ 2.175
Unprotected 1st

for

Lindholm

Actually a fair trade
I see Toronto still finishing in bottom 5 and a 1st line winger for dirt cheap

TO TOR: Lindholm

TO ANA: Gardiner + Kapanen

Anahiem hangs up and sends Toronto a bill for wasting there time

For some reason not letting go me quote the Trouba one. Imo no first.
Trouba isn't far off from lindholm to warrant an add on after dano. Imo maybe a different player or a protected 1st.