Confirmed with Link: Lindholm + Hanifin to CAL for Hamilton, Fox and Ferland

[Brock Anton]

LMAO at our RD depth.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

If we make the playoffs next year we won the trade. If not we lost the trade.

 

[DaveG]

Do you agree that Ferland is closer to Lindholm than Hanifin is to Hamilton?

This year? Maybe, though I think Ferland regresses back though still better then replacement level.
Long-term? Absolutely not. Not even close.

I'll put it this way, I honestly think that Brock McGinn is a better player then Ferland, I see Ferland as a HUGE beneficiary of the linemates he had last year. Like Jiri Tlusty on the Staal-Semin line level beneficiary.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

I’m very confused about any question marks regarding Ferland. 21 goals and across the board is known as a guy with a nonstop motor. Lindholm hit someone once, I think.

 

[GoldiFox]

Hamilton will be the 2nd pairing anchor piece that Hanifin and Faulk just couldn’t effectively bring. Slavin-Pesce is money. Put anyone with Hamilton and he will provide a solid two-way game. Big upgrade there.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

ferland played 70% of the time with johnny hockey and his boring companion lol.

if he's put with staal and mcginn and told to play keep away, he won't hit 30. on the flipside, if he does that well, is a nuisance to play against and gets 150+ hits, lindy wouldn't do that. the only benefit to Lindholm is pk offense with staal and (probably) faceoffs.

 

[My Special Purpose]

We are giving up young for old

The three guys we traded for are 25, 26 and 20. If that's old, I'm dead.

 

[Canes]

never understood the lindholm fascination. he just never lived up to the billing here. doesn't seem to have the intensity to take his game to the next level. for all we've been hearing about how svechnikov is a net driver who relishes crease contact and scores by any means possible, lindholm is the inverse. if we're 400 games deep into a forward's career and still using the term upside, you're probably never going to see it. he may look pretty in the form of the nothing he accomplishes, but pretty nothing is still nothing. if whoever gets his 18 minutes a night can't replicate his 40 points, it was a position we needed to upgrade regardless.

He's still not just a player you throw into a trade like this without thinking long and hard about it.

Marcus Johansson put up similar numbers to Lindholm and had all the same criticisms before finally breaking out his last season in Washington at 26 years old. It's not completely out of the question Lindholm could do the same.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

I’m very confused about any question marks regarding Ferland. 21 goals and across the board is known as a guy with a nonstop motor. Lindholm hit someone once, I think.

I’m salivating at the thought of Ferland and McGinn playing on a line together. Them with staal would be an absolute nightmare to play against.

 

[Canes]

Hamilton will be the 2nd pairing anchor piece that Hanifin and Faulk just couldn’t effectively bring. Slavin-Pesce is money. Put anyone with Hamilton and he will provide a solid two-way game. Big upgrade there.

We'll see. But it's not like Hamilton anchored a pairing all by himself in Calgary. He played a lot with a fairly good d-man in Mark Giordano.

 

[Canes]

I’m salivating at the thought of Ferland and McGinn playing on a line together. Them with staal would be an absolute nightmare to play against.

They would also probably struggle to score 50 goals together. Great 3rd line though.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I’m very confused about any question marks regarding Ferland. 21 goals and across the board is known as a guy with a nonstop motor. Lindholm hit someone once, I think.

I remember that!

Actually, he hit Nate Schmidt so hard one time that it clearly surprised both of them. I thought that could be a lightbulb moment for him, but alas...

 

[Identity404]

I don't like the fact that Hamilton only has three years on his contract left. Unless we start really winning soon, I seriously doubt he will want to re-sign.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I don't like the fact that Hamilton only has three years on his contract left. Unless we start really winning soon, I seriously doubt he will want to re-sign.

If we don’t make the playoffs within 3 years I won’t be a hockey fan then anyway so...

 

[Navin R Slavin]

We got a 6'6" top pairing defenseman in his prime, a mean forward, and a hotshit prospect for two guys that regularly disappointed us.

Y'all be mad if you want.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

i like the trade

 

[My Special Purpose]

This year? Maybe, though I think Ferland regresses back though still better then replacement level.
Long-term? Absolutely not. Not even close.

I'll put it this way, I honestly think that Brock McGinn is a better player then Ferland.

Ferland produced well surrounded by good players. Lindholm didn't produce, even when surrounded by good players.

 

[Chrispy]

Hamilton himself is just 25y and clear 1st par D-man.

I hope you all are ready for next year, going to be a very different looking team.

+Good to hear goaltending mentioned as a mission.

I understand Hamilton is just 25, or the same age Ruutu was when we traded Ladd for him. Like Ladd, I think Hanifin will develop into a similar tier of player to who we acquired. Less of a trigger man, more of a transition D.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I understand Hamilton is just 25, or the same age Ruutu was when we traded Ladd for him. Like Ladd, I think Hanifin will develop into a similar tier of player to who we acquired. Less of a trigger man, more of a transition D.

But unlike Ruutu, Hamilton is actually a significantly better player than Hanifin right now.

 

[DaveG]

Ferland produced well surrounded by good players. Lindholm didn't produce, even when surrounded by good players.

And yet Lindholm out-produced him at a younger age by guys that aren't on the same tier as Monahan or Gaudreau

 

[Canes]

We got a 6'6" top pairing defenseman in his prime, a mean forward, and a hot**** prospect for two guys that regularly disappointed us.

Y'all be mad if you want.

Now it's Hamilton, Ferland and Fox's chance to disappoint us. They are coming to the Carolina Hurricanes after all...

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Ferland produced well surrounded by good players. Lindholm didn't produce, even when surrounded by good players.

ferland won't hit the 45 that was a disappointing lindholm's guarentee. but it sounds like he also won't play half the year invisible .

he sounds like a nastier version of char. oh goody.

 

[BB88]

I understand Hamilton is just 25, or the same age Ruutu was when we traded Ladd for him. Like Ladd, I think Hanifin will develop into a similar tier of player to who we acquired. Less of a trigger man, more of a transition D.

Ruutu and Hamilton are completely different players and completely different situations.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

FYI, Sznajder just pointed out that Hamilton’s 17 goals last year matches Lindholm’s career high.

 

[Canes]

And yet Lindholm out-produced him at a younger age by guys that aren't on the same tier as Monahan or Gaudreau

Yeah, am I taking crazy pills? When did Lindholm ever get to play with players like Monahan and Gaudreau? And last year was Ferland's only season even close to what Lindholm has been producing at a younger age. Takes some severe mental gymnastics to come up with Kev's analysis of these two players.