Prospect Info: Linden Vey to Canucks for 2nd Round Pick #50; Kings select Defenseman Roland McKeown

We still need a high end prospect and we could use a legit goalie prospect, but even those needs could be met by Kempe, Zykov, Bartosak, Dillon, etc.

The one big risk a team that stays at the top end of the standings -and thus the low end of the draft order- is finding high end skill. We have some good candidates for sure but none of Toffoli, Pearson, Kempe, Zykov, Prokorkhin, etc has proven they are that level yet.

Basically, that's all nitpicking. We are deep at almost all positions and have a bunch of intriguing prospects who have some good upside. Can't complain much.

I actually like this Dillon kid 6'5 is huge when he finally fills out he ll cover a lot of the net. Long term project for sure. I also like Patrick Bartosak 935 and 924 sav % is pretty strong for a whl goalie.

Oh true nothing is a for sure thing but I think we pretty set for now. I think with our coaching most will turn out just fine.
 
It's all about development and the Kings have shown they are one of the best at that. But, to answer your question, I would say on the wings, and a bonofide #1 center prospect, but we can wait another couple of drafts with having Kopi. (No, I don't think he bolts when his deal is up because Dean will already have him locked up before that happens.) It's also hard to draft a bonafide #1 center prospect when you're drafting in the late 20's or 30th year after year. Such a good problem to have.

Wouldn't you consider Kempe or Porkhorkin a number one C prospect? wings on the lw zykov or is he rw ? but i have to agree wings would be where i think we are weekess . We did however draft a lot of centers.
 
Wow I know there just some highlights but man this kid looks good! Hope he turns out to be something!
 
Canucks projecting him as a second line center. I thought everyone on here said he was suited to a third line role regardless of being on LA or not.
 
Canucks projecting him as a second line center. I thought everyone on here said he was suited to a third line role regardless of being on LA or not.

It's really hard to say. Vey has averaged a point per game the last 2 seasons in the
AHL at the age of 22. That is pretty impressive. He did not look fabulous in his 18 games
on the Kings. That said, players like: Moulson, Purcell, and Simmonds have left LA
and put up much better offensive numbers. So there may be a chance Vey does the
same and plays #2 center.

Dwight King has played on line 2 and even Jordan Nolan has. It does not necessarily
make them #2 wingers.
 
It's really hard to say. Vey has averaged a point per game the last 2 seasons in the
AHL at the age of 22. That is pretty impressive. He did not look fabulous in his 18 games
on the Kings. That said, players like: Moulson, Purcell, and Simmonds have left LA
and put up much better offensive numbers. So there may be a chance Vey does the
same and plays #2 center.

Dwight King has played on line 2 and even Jordan Nolan has. It does not necessarily
make them #2 wingers.

He also played with two tremendous wingers though.
 
Hey tg

I loved the draft always one of my 5 favorite days of the year (b day free agent day xmass eve ( the family dinner ) trade deadline day and draft day in different order. The reason for my question i tend to be the one answering trade needs on the main board and i am curious if there something i should sorta keep my eye out for sorta thing. I think i ll stick to the draft picks idea as our scouts know the needs in the future better then i do. I dunno if u answer this else where as i havn't seen your thoughts yet on all the pick but where will Kempe project to be 2nd line c lst lw Ive read plays both but havnt seen where he will most likely be. Our could any other of the pick end up top line? I'm sure you will answer this in the individual threads if not could you? Oh and was there a pick you wanted or hoped would fall to us in the later rounds? someone you feel strongly that we missed ? Anyways always great reading your thoughts especially at this time of year? Who is your steal of the draft for the kings and others?

I am going to take most of the afternoon tomorrow and post the CSS reports for each of our picks including mine and I will include a few regional specific scouts too. I will give a specific break down of each pick and our overall draft later. I have been super busy training a new person. I have for the first time some video that I am getting help posting that has interviews with Dean (about 30 seconds) and Futa (a bit more on each pick) and then some vid with Dennis MacInnis of ISS on our picks.

Some funny and candid stuff with Dennis about a night in TO last year and then his opinion(s) on Kempe and McKeown with a little chiming in by Mr Big (Price).

To the question was there anyone that I saw as a sleeper pick in the later rounds well I would have to say that this draft there were solid pick ups all over the place and that McKeown going early in the 2nd is a good example of how scattershot this draft was in terms of where players landed.

Now that players like Josh Ho have been drafted I can honestly say that I have never met such a poor character kid and he has left a trail of people who see things the same way as I do behind him everywhere he has gone. I know he is young and full of beans but so is every other player waiting to be drafted and that kid is one for the books. He makes Pronger look timid and reserved.

There are a couple of other players this time around who have their problems that were taken earlier then they typically would have because of their high end potential but this is where we butter our bread. Each of our kids are high character salt of the earth types who meet a specific set of standards where their character personality and level of commitment are concerned. We passed on a few players who were ranked highly or more so than the player we took but I am willing to bet that our guys make the NHL way more often then a few players who have been judged only on their hockey skills and not on the person as well.

I had known that Kempe was our guy (even though I had us going after Lems in my pre draft) but I honestly thought that he would require our trading up to get. The fact that he fell to us is a pure gift from the hockey gods. Not that I think he is going to be a replacement for Kopi but he is yet another very skilled dedicated hard nosed player who should be able to make the NHL and be a good all around player when he does. Top 6 forwards like him are hard to come by so great that we picked him up.

I am all over the place and going to get some sleep and then try to make sense of things in the morning but overall it was a great day for us. Like most of us knew this draft wasn't loaded with elite level talented kids but it was chock full of very solid young hockey players if you knew where to look and of course we sure did.

I am going to look around to read your Holden nki and a few other posters takes on the draft and am looking forward to seeing each of your thoughts too.
 
I am going to take most of the afternoon tomorrow and post the CSS reports for each of our picks including mine and I will include a few regional specific scouts too. I will give a specific break down of each pick and our overall draft later. I have been super busy training a new person. I have for the first time some video that I am getting help posting that has interviews with Dean (about 30 seconds) and Futa (a bit more on each pick) and then some vid with Dennis MacInnis of ISS on our picks.

Some funny and candid stuff with Dennis about a night in TO last year and then his opinion(s) on Kempe and McKeown with a little chiming in by Mr Big (Price).

To the question was there anyone that I saw as a sleeper pick in the later rounds well I would have to say that this draft there were solid pick ups all over the place and that McKeown going early in the 2nd is a good example of how scattershot this draft was in terms of where players landed.

Now that players like Josh Ho have been drafted I can honestly say that I have never met such a poor character kid and he has left a trail of people who see things the same way as I do behind him everywhere he has gone. I know he is young and full of beans but so is every other player waiting to be drafted and that kid is one for the books. He makes Pronger look timid and reserved.

There are a couple of other players this time around who have their problems that were taken earlier then they typically would have because of their high end potential but this is where we butter our bread. Each of our kids are high character salt of the earth types who meet a specific set of standards where their character personality and level of commitment are concerned. We passed on a few players who were ranked highly or more so than the player we took but I am willing to bet that our guys make the NHL way more often then a few players who have been judged only on their hockey skills and not on the person as well.

I had known that Kempe was our guy (even though I had us going after Lems in my pre draft) but I honestly thought that he would require our trading up to get. The fact that he fell to us is a pure gift from the hockey gods. Not that I think he is going to be a replacement for Kopi but he is yet another very skilled dedicated hard nosed player who should be able to make the NHL and be a good all around player when he does. Top 6 forwards like him are hard to come by so great that we picked him up.

I am all over the place and going to get some sleep and then try to make sense of things in the morning but overall it was a great day for us. Like most of us knew this draft wasn't loaded with elite level talented kids but it was chock full of very solid young hockey players if you knew where to look and of course we sure did.

I am going to look around to read your Holden nki and a few other posters takes on the draft and am looking forward to seeing each of your thoughts too.


tg grab some sleep and come back refreshed tomorrow this will allow a few of us to do some much needed research on the picks and get a opinion before hearing your point of view. At least i know i should look at them and get a thought or two of original thoughts opinions before seeing yours.
 
More From Futa

http://mayorsmanor.com/2014/06/draft-2014-recap-michael-futa-conference-call/
Q: Did the window close on Linden Vey?

It’s probably better to ask [Lombardi]. There’s a lot of value to the player. I mean Linden paid his dues and you look at the way things unfolded with his opportunity. I mean we set his asset value at a high second, mid second round pick. The player, we really felt strong about we had Roland McKeown rated in our first round, and the fact he was still there we felt after great debate, that was going to provide Linden an opportunity which he had requested and it allowed us to an opportunity to take a defenseman, a good young defenseman that we coveted. You know start fresh our development system and we think he’s going to be a big part of things.

Q: What did you like about Roland McKeown?

He’s an exceptional skater, he’s a captain or an assistant captain on all of Hockey Canada’s coming up, the U-17, and U-18′s. Used and plays Doughty like minutes at the junior level and probably played a little too much and kinda got exposed trying to do too much down the stretch. That might have hurt his rankings a bit, but he’s already an NHL skater, great athlete, and he fills out he’s only going to get better. He was somebody we were just, that was really the only name that we had on our list that we felt would allow us to make the Vey deal and be getting value or better.
 
I am going to take most of the afternoon tomorrow and post the CSS reports for each of our picks including mine and I will include a few regional specific scouts too. I will give a specific break down of each pick and our overall draft later. I have been super busy training a new person. I have for the first time some video that I am getting help posting that has interviews with Dean (about 30 seconds) and Futa (a bit more on each pick) and then some vid with Dennis MacInnis of ISS on our picks.

Some funny and candid stuff with Dennis about a night in TO last year and then his opinion(s) on Kempe and McKeown with a little chiming in by Mr Big (Price).

To the question was there anyone that I saw as a sleeper pick in the later rounds well I would have to say that this draft there were solid pick ups all over the place and that McKeown going early in the 2nd is a good example of how scattershot this draft was in terms of where players landed.

Now that players like Josh Ho have been drafted I can honestly say that I have never met such a poor character kid and he has left a trail of people who see things the same way as I do behind him everywhere he has gone. I know he is young and full of beans but so is every other player waiting to be drafted and that kid is one for the books. He makes Pronger look timid and reserved.

There are a couple of other players this time around who have their problems that were taken earlier then they typically would have because of their high end potential but this is where we butter our bread. Each of our kids are high character salt of the earth types who meet a specific set of standards where their character personality and level of commitment are concerned. We passed on a few players who were ranked highly or more so than the player we took but I am willing to bet that our guys make the NHL way more often then a few players who have been judged only on their hockey skills and not on the person as well.

I had known that Kempe was our guy (even though I had us going after Lems in my pre draft) but I honestly thought that he would require our trading up to get. The fact that he fell to us is a pure gift from the hockey gods. Not that I think he is going to be a replacement for Kopi but he is yet another very skilled dedicated hard nosed player who should be able to make the NHL and be a good all around player when he does. Top 6 forwards like him are hard to come by so great that we picked him up.

I am all over the place and going to get some sleep and then try to make sense of things in the morning but overall it was a great day for us. Like most of us knew this draft wasn't loaded with elite level talented kids but it was chock full of very solid young hockey players if you knew where to look and of course we sure did.

I am going to look around to read your Holden nki and a few other posters takes on the draft and am looking forward to seeing each of your thoughts too.

Hey, TG looking forward to your stuff above everything else just to see how somebody in the industry does it. I did mine over at the prospects board, if anyone still wants to take a look here's the link, it's better for me to link you guys than to stretch the thread out by copy/pasting beyond what's reasonable.

As far as how the draft turned out compared to my list. On the guys I was high on and the NHL wasn't: Barbashev fell out of the first round which was surprising to me, I was also much higher on Magyar than where he went. Goulet whom I've had as an early 2nd went completely undrafted which was a major surprise to me (I thought he'd go for sure in the mid-rounds, character concerns maybe?). I was also higher on Jenkins (despite being light, I thought had a very heady puck-moving aspect to his game), Nantel, and Emil Johansson they all went in the 7th round. Tkachyov and Hitchcock I expected to be late round picks, but nobody took a shot at them.

Conversely I had DeAngelo as low as 60 (initially wanted to ignore character concerns, but too much smoke, and even if it were not for character concerns I don't really have much interest in risky high octane defensemen, so I doubt he'd make it into my first round), and Ho-Sang as low as 70 (with Ho-Sang I didn't even bother to address character concerns, I just don't like the way he plays the game at all, individualism and junior star type of stuff). Schmaltz I had 45, smart player but questionable intensity IMO (not a biggie to be taken higher, but I value players who dig-in a bit more better). Goldobin I had at 41 (actually spoke pretty glowingly about him if he gets proper development I think he could be a very nice pick, but being pretty risk-averse I decided to rank him a bit lower). Other than that most picks seemed to go within the range (outside of the few players I haven't been able to see at all like Bergman and a couple of others, also picks after 90 where I imagine various rankings differentiate wildly from one to another as it is)

As far as the Kings go I absolutely loved Kempe and McKeown at the spots we were able to get them. Was meh on Amadio, and Marchment. Johnson and Dillon I haven't seen so I can't really comment. Mistele, Watson, Middleton, Lintuniemi I'm all OK with. Although I didn't really rank any of them in the top 120, they were in the group of about 30 players that I had to cut to bring the total number down from about 150 to 120. The fact that they'll be working with the Kings development staff probably raises their value in itself, who knows what happens to them if they go to the Islanders or some team like that (no offense to the Islanders but you get the point). I think both Lintuniemi and Middleton project as decently-sized stay-at-homers with decent poise and reads, in the sense that they aren't really going to hurt you if they have to handle the puck. Watson has natural goal-scoring instincts that are pretty rare, with a very nice positional sense in the offensive zone as to where he needs to go to find himself open with a scoring opportunity. With Watson he's small and I think he could stand to get a bit more involved in the play. Mistele I probably like the best out of those, he too has a great natural awareness of where to be and a good size. I think he really reads the play well whether it's making the play or getting into soft spots offensively. Just needs more confidence and getting used to a bigger role on the Plymouth team.
 
Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond ·

Mike Futa indicated Linden Vey requested chance to play at NHL level. Kings wouldn't swap him for less than 2nd-round pick.


And Dean being Dean, he granted Vey's request and also got a very solid prospect back. Vey work his butt off in training camp and earn a regular shift next year. Win/Win scenario
 
How is Vey at wing?

Much better winger, his skill set suits wing. Vey is just not a very good Center.

It's a contributing factor in LA moving him. He didn't develop into a high level Center.

Nick Shore pretty much passed him on the depth Chart here in LA.

Nick Shore has a natural Center skill set, and is signed. Also projects to be a better fit for Bottom six play in the Kings system.
 
With all due respect I've seen 1 maybe 2 Canucks fans slot him in the top 6. IMO he'll play either wing or centre on our 3rd line.

Fair enough, I must have read it too quickly. My mistake.

How is Vey at wing?

Much better at wing than center. Put him with a strong center who takes pressure off him and he'll succeed better than if he was the guy centering a line.
 
Thanks for the response guys, also no worries Reclamation Project youre a fine poster and thanks for always having our backs in the Luongo threads.
 
Thanks for the response guys, also no worries Reclamation Project youre a fine poster and thanks for always having our backs in the Luongo threads.

He's become so ****ing underrated it's embarrassing. Luongo's elite.
 
McKeown is a great pick at #50 but why did he fall so much. He was considered top 15 pick at beginning of season and by the end he was ranked mostly around #25, in worst case early 2nd round. He was also always considered as atleast 5th or 6th best Dman in this year draft(in some cases he was projected as #2 or #3 Dman in 2014 draft).
Yet he has fallen to backend of 2nd round, past by many teams twice and in the end he was only 12th Dman taken.

Was his offensive production such concern? Maybe he had consistency issues? It was pretty big fall down the rankings without any apparent reason (especially when everybody talks so high about him).
 
Settle down Charly, this isn't my first rodeo. :D

No, but these answers are helpful for those of us who have a lot more we want to learn about hockey, so they are much appreciated. Lotta lurkers around here.

It was really nice to see future teammates Roland Mac and Adrian Kempe shake hands as Roland headed down the stairs toward the Kings table. Roland seems very happy to join the Kings org.
 
Sad to lose Vey -- he clearly has an awesome set of hands, is a good skater and a smart player; his game is real entertaining to watch. One of his games with the Kings last season he had a gorgeous assist. Still, not exactly a physical player and probably wouldn't fit that well with the Kings play style. Better to get a good prospect out of him than hold onto a player who may never make the squad, no matter how good he is. He should do well in Vancouver (unfortunately).
 

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