Post-Game Talk: Lightning III

[NickyFotiu]

I couldn't agree more!


Whoa, whoa!! You had me until Rooney and Gauthier.

Sometimes in the playoffs some fresh rested legs have given a good spark. That goes all the way back to Bobby Sheehan in 1979. If Strome is out and Reeves sits who would you replace them with?

 

[Peltz]

I see them doing the opposite.

The NHL is locked into 2-2-1-1-1 and travel from Edmonton/Colorado to Tampa/New York is a beast in any combination.

The f***ing thing is gonna go just about into the second week of July.

They'll also probably have a two-day gap in the same town for literally no reason like the NBA did because they usually do. Last year there were two days off between games 3 and 4 both in Montreal for (say it with me!) LITERALLY NO REASON between two teams that didn't even have to cross a timezone.

It's never too early to absolutely ream the NHL for SCF scheduling. It should be a 13-day thing that somehow always takes a month.

The NHL playoffs cannot extend into July. The latest possible date for a final game 7 in the SCF is the last day is June 30th according to the NHL.

NHL announces critical dates for 2021-22 season | NHL.com

Trade Deadline set for March 21; free agent signing period begins July 13

www.nhl.com

"The last possible day of the Stanley Cup Final is June 30."

 

[gump116]

We played like crap and probably didn’t deserve to win, but at the same time we likely win the game if not for Trouba.

Takes a bad penalty right after we go up 2-0 and have all the momentum. Takes a questionable/soft penalty to start the third when up 2-1. Takes a bad penalty (or 2) with 2.5 minutes left in the double minor. All he and the second unit have to do there is hold the puck for a minute while the first unit rests so they can come back fresh for the last 1.5 minutes and he can’t do that.

Yes the team didn’t play well overall but it’s a completely different game if not for him.

 

[duhmetreE]

KAM has showed tremendous growth with the puck. He should be PPQB2

 

[GENESISPuck94]

I see them doing the opposite.

The NHL is locked into 2-2-1-1-1 and travel from Edmonton/Colorado to Tampa/New York is a beast in any combination.

The f***ing thing is gonna go just about into the second week of July.

They'll also probably have a two-day gap in the same town for literally no reason like the NBA did because they usually do. Last year there were two days off between games 3 and 4 both in Montreal for (say it with me!) LITERALLY NO REASON between two teams that didn't even have to cross a timezone.

It's never too early to absolutely ream the NHL for SCF scheduling. It should be a 13-day thing that somehow always takes a month.

I hope this is true. For my own selfish reasons. I ship out for AT on the 15th and get home on the 29th.

If the Cup Final extends to the 2nd week of July like you said that would be a miracle for me, because I would get to watch some of the games at home with my family and hopefully get to celebrate a win.

Otherwise, it's going to be a challenge to get to watch the games and I really hope I don't miss the Rangers in a Cup Final.

The NHL playoffs cannot extend into July. The latest possible date for a final game 7 in the SCF is the last day is June 30th according to the NHL.

NHL announces critical dates for 2021-22 season | NHL.com

Trade Deadline set for March 21; free agent signing period begins July 13

www.nhl.com

"The last possible day of the Stanley Cup Final is June 30."

 

[JimmyG89]

If these series wrap up early, it'll be the 15th. If this series goes 7, it's the 18th. Game 6 is set for June 11.

 

[RangerLifer]

Sometimes in the playoffs some fresh rested legs have given a good spark. That goes all the way back to Bobby Sheehan in 1979. If Strome is out and Reeves sits who would you replace them with?

Fair point.

If these series wrap up early, it'll be the 15th. If this series goes 7, it's the 18th. Game 6 is set for June 11.

Pray to the Hockey Gods we will be involved in it.

 

[mas0764]

I see them doing the opposite.

The NHL is locked into 2-2-1-1-1 and travel from Edmonton/Colorado to Tampa/New York is a beast in any combination.

The f***ing thing is gonna go just about into the second week of July.

They'll also probably have a two-day gap in the same town for literally no reason like the NBA did because they usually do. Last year there were two days off between games 3 and 4 both in Montreal for (say it with me!) LITERALLY NO REASON between two teams that didn't even have to cross a timezone.

It's never too early to absolutely ream the NHL for SCF scheduling. It should be a 13-day thing that somehow always takes a month.

I hate the 2-3-2, the 2-2-1-1-1 is way better EXCEPT for the travel.

 

[NCRanger]

The NHL playoffs cannot extend into July. The latest possible date for a final game 7 in the SCF is the last day is June 30th according to the NHL.

NHL announces critical dates for 2021-22 season | NHL.com

Trade Deadline set for March 21; free agent signing period begins July 13

www.nhl.com

"The last possible day of the Stanley Cup Final is June 30."

The NHL has allowed itself to get bullied by Disney.

 

[Filip Chytil]

I hate the 2-3-2, the 2-2-1-1-1 is way better EXCEPT for the travel.

They should just go 1-1-1-1-1-1-1

We'll finish the SCF in August!

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Im not the biggest Gauthier fan but i wouldn't mind seeing if his speed and size could help, if he would just dump and chase id be loving it. Just move Copp to center and add Motte. Let goodrow center gauthier and Reaves. Having said that we're either getting hunt or rooney

 

[Machinehead]

I hate the 2-3-2, the 2-2-1-1-1 is way better EXCEPT for the travel.

I wanna tell you why you're wrong about that but this isn't the place.

 

[RangerLifer]

Then when we're on the 4min PP Chytil gets high sticked right in front of the ref, drops his stick and grabs his face and everything you couldn't miss it if you tried, but it doens't get called because the ref's aren't going to give us a 2 min 5v3 - and why not? Game management.

It's bullshit. The incessant focus on the refs to manage the game and call it fair instead of just having a standard and calling the penalties in the game based on that standard we get wildly shifting standards of what is and isn't a penalty throughout the game based on who's winning, who has more power plays, which coach is in the ref's ear, etc...

Tampa knows they can basically commit murder while being a man down.

 

[17futurecap]

If the Rangers finish on the 9th, not sure what the issue is with the 15th start, don’t really need to see them be rushed to Colorado to start on the 11th.

Have a real Stanley Cup Media Day, promote the players, promote the league. The tv ratings on ESPN and Turner have been a billion times better than NBC.

 

[2014nyr]

logically obviously this thing could go back and forth and be decided in a game 7

personally though i feel like game 4 decides this. if we win we close it out in 5. if we lose i cant help feeling like tampas battle hardened roster will pull rank and suck the life out of 2 more games where they can win with 2 tops.

 

[Machinehead]

I hate the 2-3-2, the 2-2-1-1-1 is way better EXCEPT for the travel.

I'm gonna do it anyway.

Suffice to say, most people prefer 2-2-1-1-1 because they feel it gives the higher seed the better advantage, which is fair because they had a better record.

I totally disagree with that.

I would much rather have 6 AND 7 at home. Those are your deciding games. In any kind of close series, only the higher seed gets a chance to close it out at home.

It's also law of diminishing returns. If you give us two games at MSG, I'm very confident we're winning 2/2. I'm less confident we win three straight. Even less we win four straight. If you give us ten straight games at MSG, 6-4 is outstanding. That's .600 hockey. I think having three straight home games is a lot of pressure to win all of them.

I think it would actually be harder for the Lightning to beat us three straight in Tampa than just win two and then steal one in MSG. If that does happen, we have to go there for game 6 and they get a chance to close it out at home despite being the lower seed. In a 2-3-2, even if they go up 3-2, they STILL have to play two at MSG. They HAVE to win the series at MSG.

It's somewhat subjective and the answer probably changes depending on the context of the series. After losing game 4 bad, do we ever get out of PIttsburgh if game 5 is there? Probably not. At the same time, it was huge for us to not have to go to Carolina back-to-back games. They probably win game 6 and have the mojo going into a very different feeling game 7. So it's close.

But if I had to pick one as the higher seed, I want both games at home. As the lower seed, that game 6 at home is often very huge. I think 2-3-2 benefits the higher seed in most cases.

 

[mas0764]

I'm gonna do it anyway.

Suffice to say, most people prefer 2-2-1-1-1 because they feel it gives the higher seed the better advantage, which is fair because they had a better record.

I totally disagree with that.

I would much rather have 6 AND 7 at home. Those are your deciding games. In any kind of close series, only the higher seed gets a chance to close it out at home.

It's also law of diminishing returns. If you give us two games at MSG, I'm very confident we're winning 2/2. I'm less confident we win three straight. Even less we win four straight. If you give us ten straight games at MSG, 6-4 is outstanding. That's .600 hockey. I think having three straight home games is a lot of pressure to win all of them.

I think it would actually be harder for the Lightning to beat us three straight in Tampa than just win two and then steal one in MSG. If that does happen, we have to go there for game 6 and they get a chance to close it out at home despite being the lower seed. In a 2-3-2, even if they go up 3-2, they STILL have to play two at MSG. They HAVE to win the series at MSG.

It's somewhat subjective and the answer probably changes depending on the context of the series. After losing game 4 bad, do we ever get out of PIttsburgh if game 5 is there? Probably not. At the same time, it was huge for us to not have to go to Carolina back-to-back games. They probably win game 6 and have the mojo going into a very different feeling game 7. So it's close.

But if I had to pick one as the higher seed, I want both games at home. As the lower seed, that game 6 at home is often very huge. I think 2-3-2 benefits the higher seed in most cases.

I feel like the 2-2-1-1-1 minimizes the advantage as to where the games are played, which is kinda what I prefer. I don't like the idea that a team that is hot at home gets all the benefit of an important stretch of home games in a row, for example (whether it's the middle 3 or the final 2). But that's me.

 

[Machinehead]

I feel like the 2-2-1-1-1 minimizes the advantage as to where the games are played, which is kinda what I prefer. I don't like the idea that a team that is hot at home gets all the benefit of an important stretch of home games in a row, for example (whether it's the middle 3 or the final 2). But that's me.

Ok, so you're agreeing that it's less advantage and you want less advantage. Yeah, that I could see.

 

[duhmetreE]

I have a revolutionary adjustment for Game 4. Play your best line. Maybe switch up the Zibs line because they seem to really struggle on the road, for whatever reason. They were bullied

Also, take Trouba off of PP2. Either give it to KAM or let Fox get all 2 minutes.

BINGO BANGO - we win Game 4

I expect Panarin to have a monster game if Strome isn't dressed.

 

[archanfelnsx]

If these series wrap up early, it'll be the 15th. If this series goes 7, it's the 18th. Game 6 is set for June 11.

Wow lets wrap this up on Thursday after Game 5 and have almost a week of rest.

 

[mti79]

Game 2, I was on my way to Times Square to watch the game on one of the giant ad screens (which was f***ing cool!) but I wanted to stop a bakery that I couldn't find so I was late. I have the game on the radio and we go down 1-0.

Alright, that sucks. I was mad at Reaves. I got over it.

Had that been 2012-2015, I honest to God would have just gotten back on the train with my giant cookie and went home if those teams went down 1-0.

I'm going to need more information on this giant cookie

 

[WojtekWolski86]

If there is one benefit to Goat. He draws penalties with his speed. His 7 min would have much more impact than Reavo. But if Turk didn't sit Reavo against Carolina who had no goons and Goat's motivation to stick it to his old club then he won't get subbed in for a healthy player. I'd also love to see Greco on the 4th line but don't even think he's on the taxi squad.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Im not the biggest Gauthier fan but i wouldn't mind seeing if his speed and size could help, if he would just dump and chase id be loving it. Just move Copp to center and add Motte. Let goodrow center gauthier and Reaves. Having said that we're either getting hunt or rooney

We always say this about Gauthier and he inevitably does nothing except get some cardio in. He's been given a ton of chances to show something and he has failed. I doubt we see him play again for this team.

 

[Crease]

 

[JimmyG89]

2-2-1-1-1 is more of an advantage for the higher seed because if a series is home dominant, you're down 3-2 heading home for 6 and 7. That's a detriment for the higher seed. On top of that, if you do happen to split the first two, a team that is the lower seed could end up with more home games in a series.

2-3-2 was really designed for travel in mind. Travelling from coast to coast a long time ago was not ideal on the players. Now, it's first class jets and care on these planes, so the 2-2-1-1-1 isn't as harmful to the players.