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Prospect Info: Lias Andersson

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Lias is a lock to be on the U20 WCH team if he doesn't run pro. He will be the leader on the ice for them for sure, the first guy the coach will add to the roster is probably his so to speak.

Think it's a real long shot that he would make the OG team, can't really see it. Less than 5%.
 
I think we are returning Lias to Frölunda. He will probably get a top role for them, would be great for him. The WJCHs. Think it's a bit too much for him to go to the NHL instantly. Big minutes, PP time, leader role in Europe. Face a lot of spot light that he can handle. First class organization. Should be a lot safer route than NHL directly.

I've been tempted by the idea to get him over instantly, but when thinking about it I think he should be returned for sure. Probably sooner rather than later so that he don't miss too much time of the SHL season.

Lias shouldn't be an option for the men's WCHs in May. Last year Sweden had like 3-5 Europeans on that team, if that. Lias is signed already which means that we could bring him over and possibly even play him before the regular season ends if Frolunda has an early exit.
 
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haveandare said:
I admittedly don't know a ton about Vegas as a city. I'm mainly thinking that if/when they finish bottom of the barrel for the first couple years, there's going to be a lot of talk about how it was a bad decision by the NHL and of course it was a bad decision, it's Vegas and hockey etc. etc. etc.

I'm just shocked that a new team in an untapped market for major league sports in general seems so content to be just terrible for the first few years. In that respect, I'd say the same for any city that doesn't have other major league sports, not just Vegas being a somewhat unique situation. I mean, I look at what they have and I can't imagine how they aren't the worst team in the league by a good margin. Am I crazy on that?

I'm also a firm believer that top young talent needs some top vet talent to look up to and learn from. Its fun in NHL 17 and in the imagination to build a super team of kids all together, but I don't think it quite works that way in reality. For example, to get more on topic, I think Andersson would have a better chance of stepping in here and doing a passable job as a 3C than he would of stepping in on a team like Vegas and doing a passable job as a 3C. I hesitate to compare something like hockey to "normal" jobs, but I think there's a lot of power and confidence that comes from having a solid mentor in any job or position, hockey included.
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I think they have enough guys with name recognition that they'll draw some interest and build that fanbase.

Personally, I think the risk is greater for the team to be mediocre for a number of years, than to build something. Understanding of course that there's risk in both approaches.

As for veteran leadership, I'm not sure they're going to have a problem finding those guys. In today's NHL there are plenty of aging vets who will look for one last opportunity to play a regular shift in the NHL, play in a town that interests them, and play without a state income tax. Getting vets to play alongside the kids will be the least of Vegas' challenges.
 
n8 said:
I thought they had a assets to put together a decent team but then McPhee went and traded a bunch away for not much. In some cases, I don't like the returns he got for not drafting players. They are way too deep up the center which is a nice problem to have but I mean they could suit 3 helicopter lines at this point. Meanwhile, their RW is quite thin. I understand taking a long term outlook but McPhee has too many players now, not the best team he could have had, and the excess in assets need to be redistributed towards younger players they can braise in the minors or draft picks.
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I think they'll be fine over the long run. Most of the guys are going to packaged for even more picks at the deadline when teams will look to add pieces.

I'll be shocked if the team has anything less than two first round picks next summer, including (potentially) the top pick.

The assets they were given were not going to make them a contender. However, the assets they were given should help them build something from the ground-up significantly quicker - if they play their cards right.
 
My gut sense is that the Rangers will give the guy every opportunity to make the team and probably HOPE he shows enough to stick. If he's just so-so they'll send him back. If he looks ready or really close to it, they'll keep him here.
 
Edge said:
I think they'll be fine over the long run. Most of the guys are going to packaged for even more picks at the deadline when teams will look to add pieces.

I'll be shocked if the team has anything less than two first round picks next summer, including (potentially) the top pick.

The assets they were given were not going to make them a contender. However, the assets they were given should help them build something from the ground-up significantly quicker - if they play their cards right.
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I'm kind of blah on McPhee as a GM though. I don't think he ultimately did a great job in Washington other than getting some nice draft picks and his coaching decisions there were also laughable. We'll see what he does in Vegas. I could see him getting a lot of good parts but not being able to put them together well.
 
nyr2k2 said:
My gut sense is that the Rangers will give the guy every opportunity to make the team and probably HOPE he shows enough to stick. If he's just so-so they'll send him back. If he looks ready or really close to it, they'll keep him here.
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Yeah maybe, but like looking at how much Marner tackled off last season for Toronto, who was older than Lias, I just don't think it's reasonable to expect any kind like PO contribution from him anyway. Or?
 
Levitate said:
I'm kind of blah on McPhee as a GM though. I don't think he ultimately did a great job in Washington other than getting some nice draft picks and his coaching decisions there were also laughable. We'll see what he does in Vegas. I could see him getting a lot of good parts but not being able to put them together well.
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He did a solid job drafting guys over the years. Whether or not he's the guy who gets the cup, who knows.

We could probably make that argument for a lot of GMs and coaches.
 
kovazub94 said:
Now tequila per 60 is an important metric
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True dat. After My surgeries last year I got a wetbrain like syndrome. Before I could down em like Hemingway on a rum run in Havana, now I get plastered and lose My mind after just a few beers. So I unfortunately (for the most) have found its better to stay away. Boring. My metrics per 60 went from like Keith to Staal. Ah for that Mountaintop view again, eh Marc?
 
Just spoke with a person very familiar with Swedish hickey. He said that Andersson in his opinion is the better pick than Pettersson. He said Andersson is a complete player, energetic, smart and defensively responsible yet with good offensive upside. He repeatedly said smart. But with much greater wheels than for example Derek Stepan (whom he will replace in the future). He questioned Petterssons will to sacrifice what is necessary and also his board play/physicality. He got the tools but does he want to succeed?
Interesting anology
 
BBKers said:
Just spoke with a person very familiar with Swedish hickey. He said that Andersson in his opinion is the better pick than Pettersson. He said Andersson is a complete player, energetic, smart and defensively responsible yet with good offensive upside. He repeatedly said smart. But with much greater wheels than for example Derek Stepan (whom he will replace in the future). He questioned Petterssons will to sacrifice what is necessary and also his board play/physicality. He got the tools but does he want to succeed?
Interesting anology
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I got crucified on the main boards for saying I like Andersson more than Pettersson haha.
 
BBKers said:
Main boards is purgatory
Guy I talked with has developed double digits of NHLers including all stars.
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I watched Lias play in the SHL play-offs and he was very, very impressive for such a young kid. He was on the team that won the championship but he was anything but a passenger.
 
LA has those intangible traits that teams love, and the kid goes balls to the wall every shift. Super high compete level and hockey sense will make him a good NHLer. Where Pettersson has him beat is skill, which IMO was the best in this draft class. I think LA can turn into a Steen/Turris like player, while Pettersson can be a Backstrom like type. Andersson has the higher floor, but lower ceiling. I still love the pick though
 
BBKers said:
Just spoke with a person very familiar with Swedish hickey. He said that Andersson in his opinion is the better pick than Pettersson. He said Andersson is a complete player, energetic, smart and defensively responsible yet with good offensive upside. He repeatedly said smart. But with much greater wheels than for example Derek Stepan (whom he will replace in the future). He questioned Petterssons will to sacrifice what is necessary and also his board play/physicality. He got the tools but does he want to succeed?
Interesting anology
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heh....swedish hickey.

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A lot of people here prefer Pettersson, the Rangers did, as well. Lets not make this about the main boards doing something wrong. The team that drafted Andersson and fans of the team that drafted Andersson prefer Pettersson. That doesn't mean Andersson's a bad player.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
A lot of people here prefer Pettersson, the Rangers did, as well. Lets not make this about the main boards doing something wrong. The team that drafted Andersson and fans of the team that drafted Andersson prefer Pettersson. That doesn't mean Andersson's a bad player.
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May or May not be true. Likely it is.
Rangers wanted to trade up to #3 but they wanted Nolan Patrick real bad if he slipped. Which he did not. That i heard.
Btw regarding Andersson -I was just saying what one expert on Swedish hockey told me.
If I am allowed to even convey this?
 
BBKers said:
May or May not be true. Likely it is.
Rangers wanted to trade up to #3 but they wanted Nolan Patrick real bad if he slipped. Which he did not. That i heard.
Btw regarding Andersson -I was just saying what one expert on Swedish hockey told me.
If I am allowed to even convey this?
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Of course you are, and I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, but many sources that have been posted here indicated that we preferred Pettersson to Andersson. Maybe Patrick was who we had #1, but that was probably very unrealistic, given that Patrick and Hischier were almost certainly going 1 and 2.
 
When you pick 7 there are probably guys you like more but are unlikely to fall to 7

I mean this isn't mindblowing
 
It's either New York or Frolunda

"He will start the season with us and then he will go to their training camp, then we will see. If he is good enough, it is clear that he can take part in NHL, but otherwise we will have a good dialogue with Rangers and if he does not have a good chance he will play with us, "says Fredrik Sjöström, sports director of Frölund.

If you do not get a seat in NHL, a place in the AHL League League is at hand, a league that is debated game by the Swedish clubs as they rather see their Swedes play in SHL instead. But according to Sjöström, it seems that it will be Frölunda for Lias Andersson if Rangers does not want him in NHL
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http://translate.google.com/transla...son-inleder-säsongen-med-frölunda-1.4483053

http://www.gp.se/sport/ishockey/andersson-inleder-säsongen-med-frölunda-1.4483053

Sjostrom is running Forlunda. It seems just like a few years ago,Betts and Sjostrom were PKing for the Rangers.
 
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